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Topic: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15 5/20/09 - 6/03/09 (Read 299623 times)
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my2cents
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Reply #1840 on:
June 02, 2009, 02:01:31 PM »
Quote from: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 02:00:17 PM
Quote from: Spydee on June 02, 2009, 11:29:22 AM
Quote from: mlee on June 02, 2009, 06:24:48 AM
Quote from: cookie on June 01, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started!
back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>
You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then.. Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change, and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview. Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter. But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron. With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.
Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker. The someone or someones who divided them
is someone to take a look
at.....
Exactly! I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases. In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case. From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders. But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides. I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence. Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info.
One name that popped up that I can find no data for: During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron. Who is Candice? Anyone know?
this is very interesting.....
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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June 02, 2009, 03:20:57 PM »
Quote from: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Quote from: seahorse on June 02, 2009, 05:00:08 AM
Ronald Squires age 72
is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on
www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO
Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?
The Squires surname has been in Putnam for years. I will try Ronald Squires, born 1937, Florida's, 1945 census, he should be listed and his brothers or siblings.
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Reply #1842 on:
June 02, 2009, 03:32:37 PM »
Quote from: seahorse on June 02, 2009, 03:20:57 PM
Quote from: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Quote from: seahorse on June 02, 2009, 05:00:08 AM
Ronald Squires age 72
is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on
www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO
Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?
The Squires surname has been in Putnam for years. I will try Ronald Squires, born 1937, Florida's, 1945 census, he should be listed and his brothers or siblings.
Good idea.....you are really good with this genealogy stuff....I have got to run some errands ....and then I will try to see if I can run accross something too....
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Reply #1843 on:
June 02, 2009, 05:08:35 PM »
Quote from: Spydee on June 02, 2009, 11:29:22 AM
Quote from: mlee on June 02, 2009, 06:24:48 AM
Quote from: cookie on June 01, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started!
back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>
You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then.. Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change, and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview. Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter. But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron. With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.
Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker. The someone or someones who divided them
is someone to take a look
at.....
Exactly! I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases. In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case. From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders. But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides. I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence. Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info.
One name that popped up that I can find no data for: During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron. Who is Candice? Anyone know?
Possibly:
♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.
http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Reply #1844 on:
June 02, 2009, 05:32:56 PM »
Quote from: Heart on June 02, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
Possibly:
♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.
http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal
Hi Heart.
Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.
TIA
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Reply #1845 on:
June 02, 2009, 05:35:18 PM »
Quote from: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: Heart on June 02, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
Possibly:
♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.
http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal
Hi Heart.
Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.
TIA
After looking closely at what I can see (I am not a member there) ...I see Crystal Sheffield is the center person in the picture there:
Still, I am confuzzled.
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Reply #1846 on:
June 02, 2009, 05:40:19 PM »
I am thinking that blonde in the above picture may be Lisa.
Remember this picture?
The caption said: Family friend Lisa Finley, standing, Crystal Sheffield, second left, the mother of Haleigh Cummings, and Teresa Neves, right
Heck, I dunno. Not even sure why we are trying to identify her. LOL
It's hot here today.
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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June 02, 2009, 05:57:02 PM »
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.
http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Reply #1848 on:
June 02, 2009, 06:05:05 PM »
SQUIRES RONALD;
SQUIRES HAROLD E JR;
SQUIRES TERESA A;
SALTY TERESA A WRIGHT DAVID A;
WRIGHT MARGARET A 10/06/2004 DEED ORANGE 20040639305 7647/310 2
SQUIRES TERESA A;
SQUIRES RONALD H
MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS INC 02/16/2005 SATISFACTION OSCEOLA 2005040177 2705/1764 1
Description:
https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order
I don't know if this is anything or not
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Reply #1849 on:
June 02, 2009, 06:08:00 PM »
Quote from: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: Heart on June 02, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
Possibly:
♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.
http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal
Hi Heart.
Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.
TIA
Hi Brandi all. I got confused myself. I did a google on Candace +Satsuma search and found that page. After I posted it I noticed that it said Crystal and not Candace. However it does lead to some that we were not aware of that either knows or is familiar with Haleigh.
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June 02, 2009, 06:15:17 PM »
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php
Plaintiffs
SQUIRES ELISA
SQUIRES DONALD
Defendants
SQUIRES BARBARA FKA
SQUIRES RONALD
SHIVER BARBARA
Date Docket Description
1995-07-18 001.COMPLAINT
1995-07-20 002.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - BARBARA SQUIRES SUMM RTD
1995-07-20 >7-26-95 SVD 7-24-95 DUE 8-13-95
1995-07-20 003.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - RONALD SQUIRES SUMM RTD
1995-07-20 >7-26-95 SVD 7-24-95 DUE 8-13-95
1995-08-10 004.ANSWER / RONALD SQUIRES AND BARBARA SQUIRES
1995-10-19 005.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION: 11/30/95 @ 2:00 PM
1995-10-19 >ON RONALD SQUIRES; 11/30/95 @ 2:30 PM ON
1995-10-19 >BARBARA SQUIRES
1995-12-20 006.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL REC OR BK 689
1995-12-20 >PG 203
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http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php
Plaintiffs
PALATKA HEALTH CARE CENTER Defendants
FINLEY LISA L
Date Docket Description
1992-05-22 001.STATEMENT OF CLAIM $649.38 WITH ATTACHMENTS
1992-05-22 >NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR PRETRIAL CONFERENCE ON
1992-05-22 >JULY 9 1992 @ 9:30 A.M. $12.00 SS PUT CO
1992-06-04 002.NOTICE RET SERV ON LISA FINLEY ON JUNE 1 1992
1992-06-04 >PRETRIAL JUDGE MILLER: PL & DEFT
1992-06-04 >PRESENT..ADMITTED.. JUDGMENT AGAINST DEFT IN
1992-06-04 >THE AMOUNT OF $649.38 + $62.50 COST FOR A TOTAL
1992-06-04 >OF $711.88
1992-07-16 003.FINAL JUDGMENT AGAINST LISA L FINLEY SIGNED
1992-07-16 >JULY 15 1992 COPY MAILED TO ALL - OR BK 698 PGS
1992-07-16 >1633 & 1634
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Reply #1852 on:
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Quote from: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 05:35:18 PM
Quote from: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: Heart on June 02, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
Possibly:
♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.
http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal
Hi Heart.
Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.
TIA
After looking closely at what I can see (I am not a member there) ...I see Crystal Sheffield is the center person in the picture there:
Still, I am confuzzled.
on that page...there at the bottom left hand corner...a woman with a newborn baby...says Kim P...is that Kim P as in lawyer Kim P? and if so, what is it doing on that page...and mlee is on the right hand side of the page tee hee! at least her avatar is! take a peak...
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just went back there and the pictures had changed! does that happen on these sites? ^^^
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Reply #1854 on:
June 02, 2009, 06:31:28 PM »
Quote from: cookie on June 02, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
just went back there and the pictures had changed! does that happen on these sites? ^^^
Yes. They are random and change with each page view.
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Reply #1855 on:
June 02, 2009, 06:34:03 PM »
http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=amanda%20lauramore&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sun-sentinel.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fsouthflorida%2Fsfl-haleigh-cummings-pics%2C0%2C1791879.photogallery§ion=weblink&wrt_id=217
Image 1 of 26
Where is Haleigh?
(REINHOLD MATAY, ASSOCIATED PRESS / February 12, 2009)
Amanda Lauramore comforts her cousin Crystal Sheffield
who is the mother of the missing five-year-old girl, Haleigh Cummings who was last seen in Satsuma, Fla., Thursday, Feb. 12, 2009.
There is a very good who's who tree list here....
http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=amanda%20lauramore&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVndDdzNWpyBF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZANYNzhhN21LSWNycTNLMkl3LndKTk9RUEpXODV4a2tvbHBpOEFBNGhN%2FSIG%3D11lsq2r3p%2F
**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.refugeesunleashed.net%2Fabout18620.html§ion=weblink&wrt_id=227
wow that was a really long http: addy I guess I did that right?
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June 02, 2009, 06:38:37 PM »
there is a very long record for Amanda...too long to post....check it out at...
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
type in lauramore%
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Quote from: JNGA on June 02, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.
http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys
Is that Crystal?
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June 02, 2009, 06:46:16 PM »
Quote from: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: JNGA on June 02, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.
http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys
Is that Crystal?
That is
not
Crystal, Haliegh's mom IMO.
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June 02, 2009, 06:48:14 PM »
Quote from: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: JNGA on June 02, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.
http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys
Is that Crystal?
the name before said Crystal Heuer or something like that...maybe this Crystal is a friend of Crystal Sheffield and that is why the first picture was of Crystal S. and 2 other friends? dunno..
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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