Caylee Marie Anthony #130 5/12/09 - 5/15/09

[ISpy]

TURBOTHINK- glad to see you!  I've been trying to catch up with you.  Sometime, can you shoot me a message in musings.  I'd like more info on your Generational Evil theory.  I've read your posts that you believe this applies to the Anthonys.  What is this?  TIA!

[ISpy]

CarolF- thanks for the brothers' names!  I tend to read really late here and sometimes have trouble recalling everyone's names!  Whew!

[AZLady]

Gail Plesea posted this on Topix: Jul 24, 2008
My husband is Cindy Plesea Anthony's cousin here in Niles, Ohio,Tom Plesea, and we are praying diligently for the return of her little grandaughter. We are ALL praying here for her in Ohio. Our thoughts are with you all.

from http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TVL3G8NLGKSMGINQ5/p4

[AZLady]

Alex and Shirley Plesea
 Parents of Cindy Anthony
Casey Anthony's grandparents, and Caylee's great-grandparents. Alex was seen holding Caylee in a photo released early in the case, taken at Avante at Mount Dora Nursing and Rehab Center, where Alex lives. The photo confirms Caylee was alive as late as June 15, 2008, when the photo was taken. Casey had stated that she last saw Caylee alive June 9.

Dan, Gary and Rick Plesea
 Brothers of Cindy Anthony
Rick Plesea told investigators Casey had stolen money from her mother, and even forged checks belonging to one of her grandparents.

from http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/CaseyAnthony/KeyPlayers/Family.aspx

[ISpy]

ncbelle54, CarolF, AZLady, TURBOTHINK, Blumonkey, BluesyGram and 10 Guests are viewing this topic.-  Hello all you night owls/early birds!        Glad you're here!

[ISpy]

AZLady- thank you for your post! You are sooo good! I could not remember Alex's name-way too tired here! You saved me quite a bit of backtracking.  Do you have a notebook you keep this info in or is it your photographic memory?  (Pleeeeease say it's a notebook and make me feel better)   

[AZLady]

Trumbull County, Ohio, records search at http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/OH_Trumbull.htm

You can learn a lot here.

[AZLady]

AZLady- thank you for your post! You are sooo good! I could not remember Alex's name-way too tired here! You saved me quite a bit of backtracking.  Do you have a notebook you keep this info in or is it your photographic memory?  (Pleeeeease say it's a notebook and make me feel better)   

Google is my friend.   

[AZLady]

We've already researched Cindy, George, their Ohio relatives, et al.  Some of it is in previous SM posts.  I remember reading it here and other places.  I do believe the car dealership was owned by George's father.  After a falling out, Cindy talked George into buying a used car lot that went bankrupt.  George was also married to a Terri before he married Cindy Plesea.

[bikerbev]

So true...I bet she was never allowed to be just a little kid. I just don't see them letting her get dirty. Unless I had to go somewhere my kids got a bath before bedtime and got their faces and hands washed in the morning. When they were little babies they got more baths, but were able to be kids and get dirty. I see in alot of Caylee's pics that the smiles looked to be coaxed.

I am off to bed. Goodnight. Enjoy your post.

You all bring up a good point.  I don't remember seeing any pictures of Caylee being dirty (except maybe one) even when she was outside playing.  She always looked clean.  Poor Caylee must have wondered why she needed to get in the bathtub so often.  Control freak, Cindy.

[AZLady]

Most definitely a dysfunctional home in which poor little Caylee lived.

[ISpy]

I am glad Caylee has left this earth because there is NO TELLING what that baby had to live through in her short time here and God knew she was too precious to have to live in it any longer.

Isn’t it awful when you realize a child is better off dead. They are crazy, a scary kind of crazy. That baby had NO chance here on earth. They didn’t deserve this child and she did not deserve to be murdered and dumped like their trash.

Cindy is as evil as Casey & George. I think Cindy HATES KC as much as KC hates her mother. I think Cindy enjoys playing the victim & is having no problem pounding the nails right in KC's coffin.

We all know they help in their own ” backward” sort of way. When these words she said come back to haunt her & we know they will, just as all her other words and lies have, she will say, once again, they were taken out of context.

She just plain lies & YES I do think she wants the needle for her daughter & I think when it is done and she watches, she will mutter under her breath ” because I too am a spiteful b*tch.” (Casey’s quote)

TURBOTHINK- Hey, I think you've hit one something here!  I think deep down, Cindy is really angry at Casey.  She knows that Casey not only has the game figured out, but on more than one occasion, Casey's won the power struggle and made her parents "dance".  The last three years are a prime example.  She intuitively perceived that Caylee was valuable to Cindy and she ruthlessly used Caylee to get her way with mom & dad, either directly stating she'd take Caylee and leave or subtly implying it.  The girl is a good manipulator-she correctly identified her opponents' Achilles heel.  She's still making them dance to her tune ("I can't do anything from [jail].  I need to get out to help find Caylee", "The media is saying all these horrible things about me.", "Mom, I've told you everything.").  They're having to defend her because in their minds, they have no other choice.  You can tell Cindy isn't fully on board the Casey-didn't-do-it bandwagon because in the "lost" jail tapes from August, she continues to press Casey and Casey knows it too because she refuses to talk to her and asks for George instead.  You can bet your last dollar that Cindy deeply resents Casey for repeatedly "besting" her and publicly embarrassing her (obviously pregnant at Rick's wedding, friends' testimony to LE, Shirley Plesea's testimony).  She resents having to continually bail Casey out, in order to keep her "perfect family" image up.  I'm guessing there's a well of hatred going on there.  Cindy doesn't love Casey, IMO, but she does need her keep up the facade.  She can't afford to push Casey too far.  Casey, for her part, figured out long ago that appearances matter more to Cindy than people.  JMO 

[ISpy]

AZLady- I copied your posts for my own notes-referenced and duly noted.  Thank you!   I remembered us throwing that family info around, just wasn't sure how much we actually verified.  Thanks, again!

On that note everyone, I'm calling it a night/morning.  Got a Dr. appt in a few hours so I guess I should sleep.   Hard to leave when there's a chance to learn something.  Anyway, thanks for all the help tonight and look forward to reading your posts later.  Take good care!

[ISpy]

O.k., after this I really am going.  Where we live, the State Corporation Commission licenses businesses/non-profits.  Can our FL monkeys check with whatever like agency FL has for Sheri Milstead and Dennis Milstead?  I'm very intrigued by Mei's posts that Dennis/Sheri own the print shop that prints their KFN's flyers/t-shirts/bracelets and the sign shop that does KFN's signs/billboards.  Do we know Sheri's maiden name?  Could the businesses be listed under that? Hmmmm, the ex-banker in me is very intrigued.

O.k. 'night all! 

[trimmonthelake]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/14/ijvm.01.html

Jane Velez Mitchell Transcripts
Guestt: Terrance Lenamon

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.wftv.com/news/19463864/detail.html

Casey's Ex-Death Penalty Attorney Releases Statement
Posted: 4:40 pm EDT May 14, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey's former death penalty attorney Terence Lenamon released a statement (read Lenamon's statement) Thursday that appears to be a thinly veiled criticism of her current defense team.

Lenamon says American Bar Association guidelines require conflict free investigation, evaluation and preparation.

He and defense attorney Jose Baez parted ways over a disagreement about whether Casey should use a mental health defense.

Eyewitness News has learned that Baez is keeping very tight control over Casey and her defense, even though he is not a death penalty attorney and has not yet met the requirements to hire one.

So it would seem he can not give the name because he has not found one on Craig's list yet?

OMG....you're probably right. 

[trimmonthelake]

For JSM and Fanny.

Thank you Desi, you came through again. When I tried to grin like that today I think I tore something in my neck, just sayin'. 
I wouldn't tell my son that, though. He's already tried to sneak my laptop out of the house while I was asleep.   

Fanny,I can remember Sea and I talking about a 12 step program that might be needed after this case.Just saying........

[pink angel]

Morning Monkeys!

Just a quick O/T...Drew Peterson is giving his first jailhouse interview this morning on NBC's Today Show, in just a few minutes.

In case anyone wants to tune in.

[trimmonthelake]

Morning Monkeys!

Just a quick O/T...Drew Peterson is giving his first jailhouse interview this morning on NBC's Today Show, in just a few minutes.

In case anyone wants to tune in.

Thanks PinkAngel. 

[Dolce]

They put to death a man today in Oklahoma who had beaten an 7 year old boy to death and hid the body in a refrigerator.  In Tulsa, they always list the last meal the person eats before they die.  They get to choose anything within reason.  Wanna see a menu, Casey?