Lively Case Discussion #541 11/5 - 11/7/2006

[SunFreak2]

I'm home from the hospital.  It sure feels good to be posting again. My surgery went extremely well with no post-op complications.  Evidently the timing was perfect too b/c the dang thing had twisted on itself 5 times cutting off its blood supply, but had not become gangrenous yet.  I had a female surgeon who I found very worth trusting, and a great nursing staff. Even the hospital food was good.     But there is no place like home, and I did worry about all my little 4 legged babies.  Thank you for all your prayers and your concern.  And a special thanks to MsMarple for keeping me informed on the case and about all you beautiful monkeys!

[mrs. red]

Thanks Bleached, I have always wondered if Amy Bradley really did decline to be found.... that's too sad if she did... what hell to put your parents through...


I am going to make an O/T reminder post....


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going back on topic now...


Puma - I like your suggestion for Dana.. she sounds like a very interesting guest.

[mrs. red]

Hey SunFreak...

glad to see you home and recovering.....

I know that several monkeys have not been well lately, so I am happy to see prayers being answered for you, Tyler, Lala's all the monkeys...

[Frijole]

Sunfreak -

Welcome back.  Glad you caught that in time and are back home with your furry babies.  Take good care....

[San]

I'm home from the hospital.  It sure feels good to be posting again. My surgery went extremely well with no post-op complications.  Evidently the timing was perfect too b/c the dang thing had twisted on itself 5 times cutting off its blood supply, but had not become gangrenous yet.  I had a female surgeon who I found very worth trusting, and a great nursing staff. Even the hospital food was good.     But there is no place like home, and I did worry about all my little 4 legged babies.  Thank you for all your prayers and your concern.  And a special thanks to MsMarple for keeping me informed on the case and about all you beautiful monkeys!

Glad you're home from the hospital and your surgery went well SunFreak.

[Kat_Gram]

I'm home from the hospital.  It sure feels good to be posting again. My surgery went extremely well with no post-op complications.  Evidently the timing was perfect too b/c the dang thing had twisted on itself 5 times cutting off its blood supply, but had not become gangrenous yet.  I had a female surgeon who I found very worth trusting, and a great nursing staff. Even the hospital food was good.     But there is no place like home, and I did worry about all my little 4 legged babies.  Thank you for all your prayers and your concern.  And a special thanks to MsMarple for keeping me informed on the case and about all you beautiful monkeys!

Well, we are all very glad to see you again ! ! Glad that things went well. You were talked about ( in a good way ) and much missed ! ! Take care of yourself , please.

[crazybabyborg]

SunFreak, I haven't been here very much so I didn't realize you were having surgery, but am glad you are doing well and wish you a speedy recovery!

[Kat_Gram]

Best wishes to Sunfreak and I hope she gets all the help she needs with her pets.  
Dkpen:   Do you have a link for the Charles Croes Info?
MsMarple:   How right you are.

Leslie,

I forward all the information to the Bradley's and the Bradley's asked that they take all the info to FBI and Interpol. Some info best left off the forums, if you know what I mean.  

I agree. Grande was shaking that tree and alot of poison apples were falling out. Leslie was doing some stuff too and maybe some info could be shared via Yahoo. Not with me, I do not do much of that kind of research. But I sure wish that I had been smarter a long time ago as far as Poster name, email address, IP address. Not on this blog, but somewhere else. Long time ago and its too late to go back and discern anything at this point in time.

[bleachedblack]

Glad to hear you are home Sunfreak hope you are feeling better.

[mrs. red]

Is everybody out voting?  I certainly hope so!  and NO, I don't care if you agree with Red (or me, for that matter)  I just want people to exercise the right to vote!!

[dkpen]

Hi Everyone!

Thanks for all the information. It really helps.

I do find it odd that Amy Bradley was recently removed from the FBI missing persons list. hmmm

Sad how the courts robbed the Bradleys just because some people saw Amy after her abduction. Ofcourse she was being mind controlled. Heavily drugged. Stockholm Syndrom comes to mind. Which is like a brain washing.

Am I 100% sure this Charles "Carlos" is Charles Croes?  No.

Their is way to much of a coincidence.

This person signs his sig line as Charles "Carlos".
coincidence? (Carlos and Charlies)
They both stack their sig lines and always include their business under the
name.  See what I'm saying?

Charles "Carlos"
Managing Partner and
Resort General Manager

Check it out.
Charles
arubafastphones.com

charles
arubafastphones.com

I showed it to my hubby and the first thing that came out of his mouth,
"same person", before I could explain to him what I was showing them to him for.  During my hubbies 20 yrs in the Navy, he was TAD military police for 3 yrs and DoD.

I have someone I am waiting on to respond to me who knows Aruba and Charles Croes very well.

[Florida]

I see what you mean, dkpen.

Posters leave "a little" part of them in their posts.

This is all I know about CCroes:
Born in NY 1945 (61)

Owns Fast Phones with Iracema Croes
Born in Cuba 1978 (28)

I saved one of Charles Carlos' posts...
He certanly is "wordy"...like Croes

[Kat_Gram]

Leslie had the IP address identifed with the Charlie Croes we know.
Know is the wrong word. Can't say what I really think here. Many bad bad words and very politically incorrect. If you get my meaning.

[Florida]

Kat_Gram....Are you trying to say he's "out there"?

[dkpen]

Welcome back SunFreak. Glad all went well and you will be fine.
No heavy lifting for you lady. Make your better half to the work.  

[Grande]

Where was this Charles "Carlos" posting and when?  
I know Charles a bit, have spoke with him on the phone and via email.

[Grande]

Hi Sunfreak, great to hear you are now recovering from what must have been a nightmare for you and your family.

Anything new?  

[Kat_Gram]

Kat_Gram....Are you trying to say he's "out there"?

Not right now, I didn't save the IP addy , but it was from one of those boards. Where he posts that gave the IP address. And he was reading here / or I should say someone from the exact ip address was on several times.
This is a public place and I think some things should be done in a non public place in regards to this case.
There used ot be several ppl from Aruba, different names and Yahoo / Hotmail accounts. It is so easy to have several identities.

[bleachedblack]

Hi Everyone!

Thanks for all the information. It really helps.

I do find it odd that Amy Bradley was recently removed from the FBI missing persons list. hmmm

Sad how the courts robbed the Bradleys just because some people saw Amy after her abduction. Ofcourse she was being mind controlled. Heavily drugged. Stockholm Syndrom comes to mind. Which is like a brain washing.

Am I 100% sure this Charles "Carlos" is Charles Croes?  No.

Their is way to much of a coincidence.

This person signs his sig line as Charles "Carlos".
coincidence? (Carlos and Charlies)
They both stack their sig lines and always include their business under the
name.  See what I'm saying?

Charles "Carlos"
Managing Partner and
Resort General Manager

Check it out.
Charles
arubafastphones.com

charles
arubafastphones.com

I showed it to my hubby and the first thing that came out of his mouth,
"same person", before I could explain to him what I was showing them to him for.  During my hubbies 20 yrs in the Navy, he was TAD military police for 3 yrs and DoD.

I have someone I am waiting on to respond to me who knows Aruba and Charles Croes very well.

Hi dkpen . I went to the Hyscience, Amy Bradley escort site and really don't see where it says Charles Croes. My guess it would be a different guy than CC  arubafastphones, but you never know. I don't personally know him, but what I know about him, I tend to think of him more as a family guy?.....call me naive.

kinda funny there are only 2 Charles croes listed in the aruba white pages, with Croes being such a common name.

[Florida]

I've always wondered who this MAJOR FRIEND was:

<<snip>>
VAN SUSTEREN: Charles, take me back to May 30th, which is several hours after Natalee missed her flight. How did you first get wind of the fact that Beth Holloway Twitty (search) was looking for her daughter?

CHARLES CROES, TALKED TO DUTCH SUSPECT: A major friend of mine called me up. He was working with Natalee's mom to help them find Natalee.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why would he call you? What is your occupation that would be a reason he would call you?

C. CROES: Well, I have a sail (cel) rental company. And there was apparently a phone call made. And he was calling me betting or hoping that the phone call was made from one of our phones, and so that's why he called me.

VAN SUSTEREN: About what time did he call you?

C. CROES: He called me at 11:30.

VAN SUSTEREN: What did he say to you?

C. CROES: He told me that he needed my help. And I asked him what it was about. And he told me that it had to do something with a cell phone. And I didn't relate it to anything but work at that point.

And then he said, "There is a possibility that a phone call was made using one of our phones." And I said, "OK." And he said, "It's very, very important." I said, "Fine," and I asked him to go into further details, and he did. And then I made arrangements to go see him.>>