Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 - 7/13/09

[Magnolia]

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My, my, that is a lively bunch.

[Artcolley]

Tonight at GM chat:
Who has warts on their nose?
How to deal with "Roid Rage"
Who has the perkiest Bras?

And..oh yeah, what did you fix for supper? And can it be made with beer?   

[Artcolley]

Tonight at GM chat:
Who has warts on their nose?
How to deal with "Roid Rage"
Who has the perkiest Bras?

And..oh yeah, what did you fix for supper? And can it be made with beer?   

Uh oh. Thought I was in Musings! Sorry   

[texasmom]

Tonight at GM chat:
Who has warts on their nose?
How to deal with "Roid Rage"
Who has the perkiest Bras?

And..oh yeah, what did you fix for supper? And can it be made with beer?   

 

[klaasend]

Artcolley 

[Keepthefaith]

 

[wreck]

 

[2NJSons_Mom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_58251.php

I have not been able to be on line for a bit and I just found a monkey has asked me to post this same info.  Hat Tip - Kitty with the bandanna
 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31410397/ns/travel-news/

Caribbean cruise barred over swine flu fears
Spanish ship with sick crew members turned away from two ports
updated 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
MADRID - A Spanish cruise ship was turned away from two Caribbean ports Wednesday because of fears of swine flu among crew members, the vessel's owner said.

Tour operator Pullmantur said its ship Ocean Dream with 759 passengers and 400 crew members was denied permission to dock in Grenada and Barbados after informing authorities there that crew members had flu symptoms.

The company said it later received confirmation that three crew members tested positive for swine flu. Another 11 have symptoms. None of the 14 is seriously ill, it said.The sick crew have been isolated and no passengers have fallen ill, the company said in a statement.

But the nine-day cruise that began in Aruba off Venezuela's coast is over, and the company is now making arrangements to get the passengers back to their ports of origin, company spokeswoman Ana del Hoyo said.

Passenger Miriam Tonk-Croes of Aruba complained that crew members weren't communicating with them.

"This is frustrating," she told Aruba radio station Canal 90. "We want to go somewhere."

Tonk-Croes said the ship is anchored near Venezuela's Isla Margarita.

Edit to add text from contact.

[texasmom]

Did you cook a recipe from the GM crew wreck?   

[Artcolley]

 

[texasmom]

O/T

No news from Blue Moon?  I just checked in the prayer thread.

If you stop in, I'm thinking about you Blue Moon!   

[Tamikosmom]

I honestly do not believe that the death of Natalee Holloway was intended.  I suspect that the unintended death occurred during the course of planned wrongdoing against Natalee's person by Joran van der Sloot and others ... planned wrongdoing for which there had never been any legal accountability in the past.

Hey ... there was even photos of past wrongdoing which involved Joran but ... Aruban justice for the victim was not forthcoming.

No accountability implies other "Natalees" are at risk by those who believe the legal boundaries established by a civilized society do not apply to them.
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SUSPICIONS - PREVIOUS SEXUAL ASSAULT?

Aruban Attorney - FOX News - September 01, 2005

The Kalpoe brothers were released July 4 and rearrested last week with a friend of the three young men, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis (search), 21.

Zedan-Arambatzis, who is not suspected of involvement in the Holloway case, is accused of taking photos of a minor female in "tempting poses" and of showing the photos to other people, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia. He is also suspected of having unspecified "physical contact" with the girl, she said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incident, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, Emerencia said.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168233,00.html


Aruban Attorney - At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera - August 27, 2005

BENVINDA DE SOUZA , FAMILY'S ARUBAN ATTORNEY: The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested.  The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years.  I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers.


'Scarborough Country' - August 26, 2005

LISA DANIELS, GUEST HOST: Yes. But I just can‘t get away from the fact that the Kalpoe brothers arrested today, Freddy arrested today. It has to mean something. There has to be a master plan here. What are you hearing about that?

JOSSY MANSUR, EDITOR, “DIARIO”:  Well, if there is a master plan, we will know about it soon enough.  What I do know is that Freddy was questioned at the beginning with relations to the Natalee Holloway case. He offered an alibi, I believe, to protect Joran. And then he was released. And now he‘s arrested as a suspect of selling photographs.  Maybe they are aiming to get to him through this photo business back to the Holloway case.

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/


Dave Holloway - Corruption in Paradise

The Prosecutor immediate appealed the judge's decision to release the boys and the Court of Appeals had to arrange a date for hearing.  Joran's attorney announced, as a Dutch citizen, Joran would be allowed to go off to Holland to start college.  At some unknown time prior to this Freddy had been quietly released without charges being brought.

[texasmom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

[hotping]

 Debbie, Nut44x4 and 5 Guests
Have a Great Day Eveyone!

Justice for Natalee!

 

[jen3560]

bastibro - i've never known  precisely what your agenda is, and I don't really give a damn.  But that you have one is apparent.

Do yourself a favor - do a bit of research for yourself, ok?  You just might come up with the connections that independantly support the communication I received - just as I did, showing the connection.

Out of the kindness of my heart - here's one for free:

Friend of Rosalie Klein - Rosalie Gesterkamp, NEW JERSEY SHORE (abandonded account)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?sid=1a718c6587e17b439e086e16175aee5d&id=836109440&hiq=rosalie%2Cklein&ref=search#/profile.php?id=1496216537

Have a nice day!

[wreck]

bastibro - i've never known  precisely what your agenda is, and I don't really give a damn.  But that you have one is apparent.

Do yourself a favor - do a bit of research for yourself, ok?  You just might come up with the connections that independantly support the communication I received - just as I did, showing the connection.

Out of the kindness of my heart - here's one for free:

Friend of Rosalie Klein - Rosalie Gesterkamp, NEW JERSEY SHORE (abandonded account)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?sid=1a718c6587e17b439e086e16175aee5d&id=836109440&hiq=rosalie%2Cklein&ref=search#/profile.php?id=1496216537

Have a nice day!

Within the last 5 minutes (while I was reading it) scubajap made her Facebook page private!

[wreck]

In fact, now the link is cahnged to "Rosalie Gesterkamp"  (with "Rosalie Klein" as her ONLY friend.) 

[jen3560]

In fact, now the link is cahnged to "Rosalie Gesterkamp"  (with "Rosalie Klein" as her ONLY friend.) 

Are you looking at the link I posted above?  If so, that is her OLD facebook acct - showing her location as the New Jersey Shore

This is her current one

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?sid=1a718c6587e17b439e086e16175aee5d&id=836109440&hiq=rosalie%2Cklein&ref=search

[jen3560]

BUT - she now has 1 less friend than she did when I posted the link to her other page this morning.

Guess I'll scan thru it to see if she got rid of her old account from her friends list. 

[2NJSons_Mom]