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« Reply #820 on: June 20, 2009, 07:40:18 PM »

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Re: Robin Holloway: Natalee's Step Angel!
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Most of you know that I joke and kid around on the board. What few of you do know is that I have personally had the pleasure of getting to know Robin Holloway. What I have learned about this wonderful LADY is that she has a caring and kind heart. In our many phone conversations she has never failed to talk about Natalee, often sharing small personal things that she knows and loves about her. Through Robin, I have come to know Natalee, and that is a wonderful gift that I have been allowed.
Her admiration and love for Dave comes through in the tone of her voice when she mentions his name and how tirelessly he has searched for his lovely daughter, never giving up.
Robin has a great sense of humour and she also cares deeply about BFN and Debbie, of whom she speaks of with great love and respect as well as the members of this forum who have been an inspiration to her and her family in this time of terrible loss and tragedy.
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http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4686.15


Debbie ..........>Robin Holloway ...............>Reality .................>Mark Purcell .................>
Kawish......>Capslockwizard...............>Lorenzo Webb..............>Geerman......................>

see how it works folks.

And Debbie wants people to investigate me!
And Mark Purcell threatens to set fire to Klassend's home and mine.

et tu brutus!



....................>John Silvetti...................>

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« Reply #821 on: June 20, 2009, 07:41:39 PM »

BLOGS FOR NATALEE

ROBIN HOLLOWAY


Robin Holloway:  I have made a lot of good friends here at BFN and other sites. I appreciate the efforts everyone has gone to in trying to help us out. Thank you to everyone. I have had the pleasure of talking and communicating with several on this board and would like to thank them and everyone, including especially Debbie, and thanks to Rammstein, Reality, MIP6 and gagirl for their help also.  I know everyone won't agree on everything, but we need to keep focus on the real issue, Natalee.
August 21, 2006, 03:07:49 PM


Robin Holloway: MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank Reality for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM


REALITY

Reality:[/b]  But the vast majority of the Refugees are just nice people wanting the TRUTH of what happened to Natalee.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4454.30


Reality:  How is the conclusion arrived at that Joran was wild?  From what I have read, seen and heard, this young fellow seems pretty normal, nothing wilder than the MB Kids that were on Aruba.  In fact, a little pussy-cat when compared to kids that age that I have seen and don't even begin to tell me that does not apply to kids from the US.  One has to take much of the slandering of this kid with a pinch of salt, these are enuendos put forth by the Right Wing US Media, much the same as was applied to the alledged victim of Duke.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4006.msg121427


Reality:  From what I have been reading over the past 15 months, there is absolutely no evidence of foul play
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4670.msg158480#msg158480


Reality:  Those MB Brats, I wonder if they have started talking yet, possibly in the last year, whilst in the real world and away from the bosoms of their Mama's ?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4226.msg148163#msg148163


Reality:  Yes it is very strange that a Senator had to basically, URGE them to co-operate.  That doesn't make any sense, don't you think ?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4454.30


Reality:  I recall seeing some newspaper article where it said that Joran hung out with the brats and got into a "pushing scuffle, nothing dramatic.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=5149.msg171044#msg171044


Reality:  In my tried and tested opinion the only achievment the Boycott can claim is that of offending innocent Aruban People and hampering the investigation.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?action=search2


Reality:  Dear Curves, I am truly saddened that you have allowed your fine organization to be swayed to a very small minority of hate mongers & xenophobes who for the most part have never even set foot in Aruba let alone even heard of Aruba prior to May 31st, 2005.  You’re pulling of the Aruba sweepstakes speaks volumes to a company being swayed by lies & fabrications.  As an American citizen living in Aruba for many years now let me give you a perspective that none of the “protest” emails can even come close to.  Aruba is by far the safest island destination in the Caribbean.  Aruba’s judicial system is based on Dutch law, world renowned as a fair and balanced system.  Aruba’s people are highly educated individuals where most here speak at least 3 to 5 languages.  Aruba has had ONE missing person in the last year, and that person may not even be a victim of a crime.  You have done your valued customers a disservice by pulling your Aruba sweepstakes by depriving them the opportunity to truly experience what an island paradise really is.  If you would like more information about the real Aruba please email at the following and I will be more than happy to set the record straight with facts not the fiction you have based your decision on to pull your Aruba Sweepstakes.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=2854.150
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« Reply #822 on: June 20, 2009, 07:44:38 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.

 
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« Reply #823 on: June 20, 2009, 07:47:47 PM »

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Robin Holloway:
  I have made a lot of good friends here at BFN and other sites. I appreciate the efforts everyone has gone to in trying to help us out. Thank you to everyone. I have had the pleasure of talking and communicating with several on this board and would like to thank them and everyone, including especially Debbie, and thanks to Rammstein, Reality, MIP6 and gagirl for their help also.  I know everyone won't agree on everything, but we need to keep focus on the real issue, Natalee.
August 21, 2006, 03:07:49 PM


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Peter van der Vliet:
  I have reservations with some of the things Beth Twitty claims, she constantly says she has evidence but never produces it, she claims to have tapes (or at least Skeeter has) but so far they have not produced them to the legal authorities, sources say those tapes were made way before Joran was released (even before the re-arrest of the Kalpoes) and then one wonders why it took so long to refer to these tapes, claims Beth and Jug make on the sensationalistic news-shows without any proof.

But my biggest disbelieve is the story they are telling about the first night, she and her husband Jug claim that Joran took Jug to the side that first night and told him all about what he and Natalee had done the night before, even about the sex etc. Now I may have some faith in some of her claims but this one is totally unbelievable in my eyes. Why would Joran take the father (stepfather but who cares) to the side and confess things he didn't even confess too in hours of intense questioning by gangs of police officers in 12 or 13 hour sessions of questioning?? I am sorry but what Beth, Jug and their friends are claiming was said during that first night, I don't put much stock in their stories/declarations.
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/oct/article161.html

Peter van der Vliet:  I normally give people the benefit of the doubt but my willingness to give Beth Twitty that benefit is quickly running out, and it's purely due to her and her entourages behavior who are according to me are becoming a hindrance to the case and are no longer part of the solution.
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/oct/article161.html

Rammstein:  He only briefly looked at some sites, downloading a few pictures. Maybe he was just looking for pictures. That is what people do who go to Google images you know (at least that is what I do when looking for pictures ) because if PvdS had been looking for articles/information he would have used google.com proper and given a bit more specific search-queries IMHO like "alcohol XTC" "or "alcohol drugs" etc.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4561.msg145333#msg145333

Rammstein:   This has nothing to do with believe but with the facts. Fact is that Paul barely had the pages open long enough to read them. And we don't even know what kind of law-firm he was looking at.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4561.msg144988#msg144988

Rammstein: His son, yes, he lied like it was going out of fashion but he cannot help it if his son lies to the police.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4461.msg143724#msg143724

Rammstein:  IMHO there have been no improper judicial decisions. All the decisions were made in accordance with law and jurisprudence. The judge may only use as evidence the materials that are presented during trial. If the DA doesn't do what it is supposed to do and present "legal and convincing" evidence then no judge will rule for the prosecution.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4461.msg141447#msg141447

Rammstein:  In other words, a man in a dark uniform was described, not a dark-skinned man. Why the police then arrested 2 dark skinned guards was probably because of their "detective work" and not because the K2 brothers had fingered black coloured men.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4356.msg139097#msg139097

Rammstein:   If Natalee had never been in the main house and only possibly have been in the appartement, what reasoning did the police have to search the dwelling where Natalee had never set foot in?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4436.msg138402#msg138402

Rammstein:  Yes, he got permission to play poker, a poker tournament (free poker tournament). He wasn't allowed (from what I have heard) to gamble with real money, just poker in the free tournaments.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4561.msg147338#msg147338

Rammstein:  Why pick up a person that most likely was already at home at that time. Maybe Valentijn Even heard his brother come in at 3.25am (or thereabouts). Anyway, if Joran didn't call the house (and that is not likely because in none of the statements so far he has been asked about him calling his own house that night) then it is not very likely that his dad had a premination to go pick up his son at McD's that night. What you don't know you cannot do.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4518.msg146207#msg146207

Rammstein:  That was denied by Paul (him ever having said that) and again, Joran was already home at that moment in time. How can he go and pick up a son that is safely sitting at home?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4461.msg143729#msg143729

Peter van der Vliet:  That is why I think it is grossly unfair for Natalee's mother to ask people no longer to visit any dutch territory, the governments of the Netherlands Antilles, the government of the Netherlands and the ruling body of the Kingdom of the Netherlands have no say in internal matters of Aruba.
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/sept/article476.html

Peter van der Vliet:  If this Twitty person has a problem about how our kingdom is run she can get the hell out of it. People like that we can do without.
 http://gigablast.com/get?d=175018051751
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« Reply #824 on: June 20, 2009, 07:54:21 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.

 


I think that the stuff Mark Purcell posted on open forums is disgusting.
 It says plenty about the type of person he is.
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« Reply #825 on: June 20, 2009, 07:57:13 PM »

Natalee Holloway on 25 most shocking crimes right now on the westcoast!Comcast
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« Reply #826 on: June 20, 2009, 07:58:08 PM »

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Robin Holloway:   I have made a lot of good friends here at BFN and other sites. I appreciate the efforts everyone has gone to in trying to help us out. Thank you to everyone. I have had the pleasure of talking and communicating with several on this board and would like to thank them and everyone, including especially Debbie, and thanks to Rammstein, Reality, MIP6 and gagirl for their help also. I know everyone won't agree on everything, but we need to keep focus on the real issue, Natalee.
August 21, 2006, 03:07:49 PM

Robin Holloway: MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank ]Reality  for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM
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« Reply #827 on: June 20, 2009, 08:00:46 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.

 


I think that the stuff Mark Purcell posted on open forums is disgusting.
 It says plenty about the type of person he is.

What does it say about Robin and Dave Holloway.  Considering Mark Purcell has done nothing to further justice for Natalee Holloway in the almost three years relationship with Dave and Robin ... what could be the underlying reason/s behind the friendship?

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« Reply #828 on: June 20, 2009, 08:00:53 PM »

Last nights Dana Pretzer segment with Tim Miller - the part where Tim talks about Natalee and going back to search in Aruba:

Click on the picture below, the audio/video is in photobucket:



Thanks Klaas!   

This is not perfect but I tried to do a transcript of what Tim Miller said:

Tim Miller on Dana Pretzer 6/17/09 About the Holloway Case
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You know what we’re having a big fundraiser in July and Beth is actually coming to our fundraiser.  You know we’ve done so very very much work in Aruba.  And I was actually with John Silvetti that did the water search over there and Louis Schaefer who actually funded that thing last time I was with them just a couple of weeks ago and the Natalee Holloway case is one of them that we still have 140+ targets over there that we located with the sonar equipment, it’s one of those things that we do want to get over there and investigate every one of them with the ROV send it down some of that stuffs in 1100 feet of water.  And again it’s going to be an extremely expensive search upwards of a million and a half dollars and again there’s one irresponsible reporter out of Birmingham Alabama that reported that we already had that one and a half million dollars secured.  And it’s one of the things that just killed our donations..I mean just killed em.  We got emails and phone calls of people that had donated to us said how in the world can you spend one and a half million dollars on the Natalee Holloway case when we have all these missing persons cases over here.  Again it’s was not like that.  We don’t have ten cents secured for the Natalee Holloway case to go back to Aruba yet, it’s one of the things that Louis Schaefer is working on.  I know for a fact we will be back there someday.  I don’t think Fred Golba helped our relationship out over there in Aruba when he took his dog over there.  But I think we can mend all that stuff and move forward but I am certainly looking forward to the day when we get back over to Aruba continue that search and investigate every one of them objects that we’ve got out there in the sea.  See if we can pull off that miracle and get Natalee located.  Natalee is of course not priority right now and it’s because of funding and because of other cases we’ve got.  But I’m not going to say that she’s totally on the back burner neither. So you know it’s going to take another one of them miracles for Louis Schaefer to go ahead and generate the money and I know if anybody can do it it will be Louis Schaefer.  And when God blesses us with that then we’ll go over there and put every effort into seeing if by chance one of them objects is Natalee and we feel as though one of them are, we’ve just got to get the right one.


What does mending relationships with ALE have to do with finding Natalee?  Would they actually go back to search the remaining targets... and then... what... call in the Arubans to retrieve whatever they find again?

And screw Defendant Schaefer and his dirty money!  Wth, Tim?! 

This just makes no sense at all. 



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« Reply #829 on: June 20, 2009, 08:01:32 PM »

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Robin Holloway:   I have made a lot of good friends here at BFN and other sites. I appreciate the efforts everyone has gone to in trying to help us out. Thank you to everyone. I have had the pleasure of talking and communicating with several on this board and would like to thank them and everyone, including especially Debbie, and thanks to Rammstein, Reality, MIP6 and gagirl for their help also. I know everyone won't agree on everything, but we need to keep focus on the real issue, Natalee.
August 21, 2006, 03:07:49 PM

Robin Holloway: MIP6 is doing everything he can to help us find her and hope his initial post here will resolve some of the rumors. We appreciate him so much and we want to thank ]Reality  for putting Dave and I personally in contact with him. They both, like we all do, want so much for Natalee to be found!
November 17, 2006, 09:34:35 PM


Robin picks three of the most offensive posters to "thank".  What's she thinking?
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« Reply #830 on: June 20, 2009, 08:03:20 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.


I guess I was spared.  The only PM I received from Reality ... he refers to me as JaNUT.

 

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« Reply #831 on: June 20, 2009, 08:04:45 PM »

Mark Purcell pointing fingers at MB kids


I currently live in Aruba. And most of us here have wondered the something, when are they going to investigate close to home in MB. I am not sure after all Aruba has invested in the JM inspired wild goose chases if we can afford to spend any more time and $$$$ on sending an investigator to MB.
I think it would be a waste of time anyway, the MB clan has already had over 90 days to do there evidence cleansing and 90 days to get all of there stories straight.
Wait, where is Beth’s Kool-Aid gangs outrage in the ineptness of LE for allowing this long of a time for the MB team to dispose of their incriminating evidence.

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Mark Purcell says All Aruba septic tank's are new. No old ST's there.

Hate to disappoint anyone but this so-called well is a septic tank, we all have them except for the hotels and some parts of downtown. The only opening is big enough to get a 4” hose into so the waste can be pumped out.
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Mark Purcell lives 1/2 mile from VDS's home.

The VDS home is located approx. ½ mile from my home. It is in my estimate approx 10 years old. It is not one of the old cunucu style / type homes that has a cistern, they get their water from the same source that I do, the Alto Vista water tank.
No outhouses that I have ever seen, except for the port-a-potty’s at construction sites.
My first home when I moved here was approx. 40 years old, same type of septic tank I have in my new, one year old home, with a 4 inch opening, no manholes to climb down into it, no way to fit anything larger than 4 inch into.

No oil wells here, this place is solid “clip”, granite rock.

Our water plant is the second largest desalination plant in the world, and yes the water is the best in the world.

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Mark Purcell places blame on MB kids & Natalee

You know if we had full disclosure from the MB camp with ALL of the pictures made available from ALL the MB groups cameras I bet ya dollars to donuts that we would have a few pictures of miss NH up on the bar having her tummy tickled by Joran slurping up that Jell-O shot.
Along with plenty of pictures of the drunken state of most if not all the attendees during their 5 fun filled days.
Of course this will never happen, those pictures have been destroyed long ago back in MB Alabama.

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Mark Purcell chooses to bash the family once again. Very early on. This post was made Sept 05. Why does he care if they were compensated?

I know personally of one instance where one of the Alabama Gang went to a restaurant and asked for them to “sponsor” dinner for 8, for part of the “search team” the Twitty family and hangers on.
All of the other incidents of free meals or free hotel rooms I do not have first hand knowledge. However I have been told by many very very reliable sources at multiply locations that yes they have received “sponsored” meals and hotels rooms. I would guess not all meals, but certainly a large number of freebies.
If Beth comes storming back into Aruba after her plea for people to consider not visiting Aruba or any other Dutch territory, she says this is not calling for a boycott, I don’t think she or her new posse will find the open arms of freebies awaiting her this time.
When she was staying at the Holiday Inn that in my opinion was not the lap of luxury, however when she moved the Wyndom Hotel she had a very nice suite, I think the pictures where in People magazine, but not sure.
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Mark Purcell on the forums early on bashing Natalee & Natalee's family.


I have been posting over at the Kool-Aid campsite for about month now; yesterday I finally got them to call me a “troll”.
Anything that does not follow the company line I have been posting. I am overdue to be banned.
I had this Ringo character spinning after I went to the so-called Lions Den; I had been to this bar before and posted up what I found, nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I figure with my next post I should get the boot, haven’t decided which one to use yet the Beth lies or denouncing the Sainthood of Natalee. I have way too much fun watching them all freak out.

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Mark Purcell wants Beth questioned by ALE. Why?

Lets see putting BHT on a teleconference for a formal interview into the investigation of her missing daughter OK that works.
I think not.
I for one would like to see BHT return to Aruba and have ALE pick her up and have her brought in for a little 24 hour discussion about all of her allegations of false/tampered statements, corruption/cover up in ALE & the government, a little of, so Beth now tell use again exactly how you came into possession of statements given by a suspect in this investigation. Since we have never had the pleasure of any media talking head asking her the tough questions and follow up when she dose not answer a question I think this should take place during a little one on one with the investigators in ALE.

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Mark Purcell once again points at MB.

I have never seen any security cameras at MooMba beach, Marriott has one that I know of on the roof of one of the towers that I have seen but don’t know what it is focused on, it is inside one of those protective housings. Holiday Inn I have only seen cameras inside the building.
I had not considered the security guard theory finding her as she walked alone, I had always thought that it was a person or persons who was from the MB group, the closer to “home” theory.



Mark Purcell takes up for his good friend Julia Renfro.

The rife between Beth & Julia has nothing to do with economics, find a copy of the VF article, the complete article, and you can read for yourself WHY the relationship soured
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=1420.msg31144#msg31144

Mark Purcell defends his good friend Julia.

Julie has always been and continues to be a good editor in my book. No personal agenda that I see coming from her paper.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=638.msg6137#msg6137



Mark Purcell attacks the media.

Quote from: MIP6 on March 06, 2006, 10:00:28 AM
It is very comical at times to read some peoples opinions “after” one that has been put upon pedestal somehow slips down a notch.
Greta was idolized on this forum by many posters here while she allowed Beth her almost nightly forum, now Greta has done the unthinkable, she has had an opposing opinion aired on her show, how dare she.

Folks get a grip.

It is all about the ratings, the second Joran starts to cool off it will be the Kalpoes, than back to Beth, than back to Dave than back to Joran until either Natalee is found / the case is solved or the ratings no longer add up.




Mark Purcell has buddied up with Robin. Bash the supporters & Beth.


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Re: Natalee Holloway, REMEMBER?
Reply #15 on: August 23, 2006, 03:36:41 PM »
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I finally had some time to read all the hatred that has been spewed over the last few days and I am sick.
But it also tells me something that I have suspected for a long time.

The Hate in Natalee’s name sites – Boycott – Meri, Arubadirtypolice & the dutchrapist sites are all spawns of the hate for revenge group. Frank(Deetch), Michele, Meri, Rob, Kermit, Suzie, workerbee, Writer, EasyWriter and a bunch of others.
My take is that for the most part these people are all thinking that by doing what they are doing Beth is behind them. NOT the Holloway family, Beth.

Than you have the middle of the road sites, BFN being the top of the heap that may have contact, in put from the Twitty family, it is really more supportive of the Holloway family, Dave & Robin.

This is not by any means a dig at anyone person, however, this was all caused long ago when Beth & Joe started there revenge game.

I am guilty of posting nastiness at some points over the last 15 months however I have never gone so far as to threaten some one and there family’s, hack peoples computers, create blogs of fiction that do nothing but create an Us versus them mentality in the weak minded.

How sad it must be to have Robin or Dave come on one of these sites and read all of the hatred created in the name of Natalee by the simple minded people with little mans complex.

These are the same people who over the last 2 weeks have caused more hits on my name at one site than I have had in total over the last 10 years!!!!!!!

A sickness has been breed in the name of Natalee and the only cure is to not allow the cancers these people are spreading to infect others. Kill them with kindness, ban them and or ignore them.

I think Deetch has shot them all in the foot along with Meri in this latest episode of hatred but I also know that this is just the tip of the ice burg.
These people are SICK and need to be stopped, they in no way support the family by being hateful, they only create more division among the supporters and they will continue to do so as long as they are thought to be supported by the family.
You saw what they did to Robin; the only thing that will stop them is when ALL of the family comes out against them.

You also have the fragile little ego’s getting hurt because there name s where not mentioned by Robin, please if they are here for recognition they have picked the wrong place to look for it, this is about Natalee not you or me.

I will continue to do everything I can to support who I believe needs supporting and do what I can to help from this end.

As an aside.
I am currently working to verify some information I received Monday and if it pans out I will let Robin know this information.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4636.15



Mark Purcell bashes Natalee's mother, Beth. What is his agenda?

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That would be your opinion and now here is mine as to why Beth thought the foremost important thing to do when she arrived in Aruba was to establish Natalees character as one of a virginal, non-drinking, perfect teen.
Because that’s what sells!!!!
Your average run of the mill teenager who might have drank in the past or tried pot or even, God forbid, engage in sexual activity would get little to no press coverage.
Not that it should matter as to someone’s character or not, but apparently Beth felt that it was so she spun the tale that would later prove to be not so.
If Natalee is of the character described by her mother what on earth would she be going on this trip for, since all in MB where well aware of what the group would be doing during there senior trip due to the past years of other senior class’s from MB visiting Aruba, an all inclusive drink & eat as much as you can before you pass out party festival.
Was her role suppose to be one of the wallflower sitting in the corner by herself, reading her Bible while the rest of her classmates partied like rock stars?
The goings on during there senior trip is one of the driving forces as to why almost all information flow from the others on the trip is nonexistent. They don’t what the world to know what took place while they where away from the watchful eyes of MB.
Well now the truth is being told. Read the complete VF article.
The article contains a lot of answers to questions that many have been asking me via PM for a long time.
Those on this forum may not like what is put out there in this article, tough, sometimes the truth hurts when you realize that you have been deceived by those that you have been admiring.
Before anyone posts it, regardless of if Natalee drank like a fish and or got high, regardless of what sort of social activity took place during the trip with her or the others on the trip she should still be home.
However, that is not what this post is about. It’s about the deception that was started by her mother to protect Natalee’s character as being her first agenda point when she arrived in Aruba.
What has come out in the Vanity Fair article is only a small piece of the information of what transpired between the family and friends that arrived to bring Natalee home & there interaction with those that opened there hearts to them who live in Aruba who just wanted to help bring Natalee home.



Mark Purcell forced Debbie to tell her sources of the Julia Renfro document she posted, why? B/c he has an agenda??

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:49 pm

OK time to out myself for the posters from BFN who read here or at least Debbie & gagirl.

Debbie you got the PM that was forwarded to you. I know you did our friend from across the pond sent it to you.

You have my phone number here in Aruba; you have the email to Julia’s office here in Aruba.

Either one will work.

Do the right thing, it is way over due.

If you where USED as a fall gal, so be it. CALL ME or EMAIL Julia. It doesn’t matter. Get the truth out to one of us who cares. Do not keep it inside it will rip you apart piece by piece.

The info you have does not need to be posted on a forum, call me or send the info to Julia.

My only post as it would be in regards to this false document being posted would be the following if you so chose to call me would be the following:

“Debbie has revealed her source, please stop with the Lack of Integrity posts, her source has been revealed and Julia is taking it from here, thank you all for your efforts in making this happen.”
It really is simple.


Ask yourself this Debbie.
Have I revealed anything you have sent me in PM?
I kept my word.

I think you where set up & used.

Do the right thing.



Mark Purcell knows the VDS's

Quote from: akband27 on August 10, 2006, 06:36:47 PM
MIP6...can you tell us what bar you work in? I understand if you can't...did you know the bartender that was killed/overdosed? also do you personally know the VDS's and the Kalpoes?

MIP6 Reply #90 on: August 10, 2006, 06:47:40 PM
It is not C&C’s, I am too old for that crowd.
I would prefer not too, you how things get twisted.

I did not know the guy who was killed, again too young for my crowd.

Yes I have met most of the VDS family.


Does this sound like Mark Purcell is supporting Natalee?

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Re: Natalee Holloway, REMEMBER?
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2006, 04:37:10 PM »
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Thanks for the input Alex.

I tell you what, I will post in my style and you post in your style and we will do it supporting Natalee and saying NO to the hate mongers how is that?

MOD’s if you feel my post has helped to perpetuate the HATE rather than expose it please modify as you see fit.
Thanks and good night from Aruba.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4636.msg150395#msg150395


Mark Purcell has issues wih Natalee's stepfather, Jug.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:43 am

Top my list would be Natalee.

Followed by Beth & Julia in the same room at the same time with me sitting off to the side controlling Jug on his

leash so he couldn’t shove Julia again.

Bad dog Jug, bad dog.

As I am asking the questions I could watch that little vein on Beth’s forehead start to throb with anger as Julia sits

there calmly giving truthful answers to what took place in reference to the conversations between the two of them in

those first few weeks.

When it’s Beth turn to answer all I would hear would be a bunch stammering & stuttering along with the “you knows” and

not relevant's.

Heel Jug, bad dog.

Doc


Mark Purcell call's us supporters a cult.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:27 pm

I see HMI will stop at nothing to keep there Beth in the lime light, Jim Jones would be proud of this little cult that

has been developed.

Those participating in the hunger strike please contact Doc Holladay at
1-800-FUCKOFF just prior to you going in and out of conciseness so that I can insure your safe recovery, you bunch of

ignorant fucks.
My current going rate for resuscitating a person from self imposed stupidity is 3 Red Fires and a shot of JD, payment

required in advance.

Oh wait I’m on the wagon this month, oh well too bad.

Doc



Mark Purcell defends his friend Julia Renfro and attacks BFN & SM.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:14 pm

I see we have a couple of f*** nuggets trying to make Julia look like the bad guy (gal) again.
Don’t you Kool-Aid drinking fucktards (damn I love that word) understand yet, I and I assume many on this board will

believe what Julia has to say over anything Beth ever puts forward from her journal of lies and fabrication.

Ya’ll are just pissed off because Julia owned that idiot & Paul Reynolds last night on the CC show.

Now f*** off and go back to SM or BFN Grannytoad is lonely and needs her feet massaged again.

Doc (don’t f*** with me or my friends) Holladay



Mark Purcell thinks the parent of Natalee should beg the VDS family, the Kalpo family, the population of Aruba, for forgiveness.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:46 pm

If I were Natalee’s parent what would I do next?

Burn the playbook, or journal; it wasn’t accurate to begin with.
Not listen to the following people: Jossey, Jug, Rita, Nancy, Bo, Joe M., Greta, SM, BFN, Larry, Moe & Curly.

Beg forgiveness from the following people: the VDS family, the Kalpo family, the population of Aruba, the population

of the Netherlands, the Aruba LE, the Dutch LE, the FBI, the CIA, the American public, Julia R. and every other person

who helped in the beginning.

Pay back the following: every entity in Aruba that gave me a dime.

Donate every dime left in the slush fund to a worthy organization that has a real purpose of helping people.

Than crawl off and hide in the hollow of some dead tree.

Mark Purcell can't stand Dave and says bad things about him.

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:44 am

Dave made that email public to further bolster his book, remember, “Corruption in Paradise”. His other reason was to continue the hate campaign his ex started and he so whole-heartedly joined into.
He is nothing more than a neutered male version of Beth; I can’t stand any of them.
http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/post-21893.html&highlight=#21893



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Hello everyone at BFN! I rarely post, but think it is a good time now. Our main focus should be finding out what happened to Natalee. Dave and I are very frustrated. It has been close to 500 days she has been missing and we have received no current updates regarding the investigation status in a long time.

I have made a lot of good friends here at BFN and other sites. I appreciate the efforts everyone has gone to in trying to help us out. Thank you to everyone. I have had the pleasure of talking and communicating with several on this board and would like to thank them and everyone, including especially Debbie, and thanks to Rammstein, Reality, MIP6 and gagirl for their help also. I know everyone won't agree on everything, but we need to keep focus on the real issue, Natalee.

I hate that the boycott has caused pain for the innocent people in Aruba. We never dreamed we would still be here after so much time has gone by without any answers.

Debbie and the mods here are teriffic and thank you so much for all you at BFN have done for us! We still have the helpfindnatalee@comcast.net set up for tips, so keep them coming if anyone can help us get an answer.
Robin
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Debbie.............> Robin Holloway ..................>Mark Purcell................>Capslockwizard.................>Lorenzo Webb.............>Geerman......................>Kawish..................>Silvetti


HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GOT DAVE TO KEEP ON TRUSTING THESE PEOPLE?




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« Reply #832 on: June 20, 2009, 08:05:53 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.


I guess I was spared.  The only PM I received from Reality ... he refers to me as JaNUT.

 

Janet

He thought I was a man!

But he PM'd other women his size.
And it wasn't his hat size.

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« Reply #833 on: June 20, 2009, 08:06:04 PM »

Natalee Holloway on 25 most shocking crimes right now on the westcoast!Comcast
E entertainment.......

Thanks KTF
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« Reply #834 on: June 20, 2009, 08:07:57 PM »

Natalee Holloway on 25 most shocking crimes right now on the westcoast!Comcast
E entertainment.......

Thanks KTF

It was about 5-10 minutes..Natalee's story will never go away Aruba! an angelic monkey
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« Reply #835 on: June 20, 2009, 08:11:49 PM »

Last nights Dana Pretzer segment with Tim Miller - the part where Tim talks about Natalee and going back to search in Aruba:

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Thanks Klaas!   

This is not perfect but I tried to do a transcript of what Tim Miller said:

Tim Miller on Dana Pretzer 6/17/09 About the Holloway Case
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You know what we’re having a big fundraiser in July and Beth is actually coming to our fundraiser.  You know we’ve done so very very much work in Aruba.  And I was actually with John Silvetti that did the water search over there and Louis Schaefer who actually funded that thing last time I was with them just a couple of weeks ago and the Natalee Holloway case is one of them that we still have 140+ targets over there that we located with the sonar equipment, it’s one of those things that we do want to get over there and investigate every one of them with the ROV send it down some of that stuffs in 1100 feet of water.  And again it’s going to be an extremely expensive search upwards of a million and a half dollars and again there’s one irresponsible reporter out of Birmingham Alabama that reported that we already had that one and a half million dollars secured.  And it’s one of the things that just killed our donations..I mean just killed em.  We got emails and phone calls of people that had donated to us said how in the world can you spend one and a half million dollars on the Natalee Holloway case when we have all these missing persons cases over here.  Again it’s was not like that.  We don’t have ten cents secured for the Natalee Holloway case to go back to Aruba yet, it’s one of the things that Louis Schaefer is working on.  I know for a fact we will be back there someday.  I don’t think Fred Golba helped our relationship out over there in Aruba when he took his dog over there.  But I think we can mend all that stuff and move forward but I am certainly looking forward to the day when we get back over to Aruba continue that search and investigate every one of them objects that we’ve got out there in the sea.  See if we can pull off that miracle and get Natalee located.  Natalee is of course not priority right now and it’s because of funding and because of other cases we’ve got.  But I’m not going to say that she’s totally on the back burner neither. So you know it’s going to take another one of them miracles for Louis Schaefer to go ahead and generate the money and I know if anybody can do it it will be Louis Schaefer.  And when God blesses us with that then we’ll go over there and put every effort into seeing if by chance one of them objects is Natalee and we feel as though one of them are, we’ve just got to get the right one.


What does mending relationships with ALE have to do with finding Natalee?  Would they actually go back to search the remaining targets... and then... what... call in the Arubans to retrieve whatever they find again?

And screw Defendant Schaefer and his dirty money!  Wth, Tim?! 

This just makes no sense at all. 


Hi Lifesong.

EXACTLY!!

Tim Miller does not get it!  Appeasing the Aruban "powers that be" have had a coverup agenda since the getgo is not where it is at.  It is those within the corrupt investigation  ... those who have prevented justice from prevailing ... who should be attempting to mend fences to atone for the H--- on Earth that they have put an American family through for over four years.

Janet

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« Reply #836 on: June 20, 2009, 08:12:59 PM »

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Most of you know that I joke and kid around on the board. What few of you do know is that I have personally had the pleasure of getting to know Robin Holloway. What I have learned about this wonderful LADY is that she has a caring and kind heart. In our many phone conversations she has never failed to talk about Natalee, often sharing small personal things that she knows and loves about her. Through Robin, I have come to know Natalee, and that is a wonderful gift that I have been allowed.
Her admiration and love for Dave comes through in the tone of her voice when she mentions his name and how tirelessly he has searched for his lovely daughter, never giving up.
Robin has a great sense of humour and she also cares deeply about BFN and Debbie, of whom she speaks of with great love and respect as well as the members of this forum who have been an inspiration to her and her family in this time of terrible loss and tragedy.
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Debbie ..........>Robin Holloway ...............>Reality .................>Mark Purcell .................>
Kawish......>Capslockwizard...............>Lorenzo Webb..............>Geerman......................>

see how it works folks.

And Debbie wants people to investigate me!
And Mark Purcell threatens to set fire to Klassend's home and mine.

et tu brutus!



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He's telling on her right there and on purpose.  They exploited her weakness and she allowed it.

She never should've been on the phone with him to begin with, but when she was she should have only talked about Natalee.

"never failed to bring up Natalee" ...  that's so transparent it's ridiculous.

JMO and only MO

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« Reply #837 on: June 20, 2009, 08:13:00 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.


I guess I was spared.  The only PM I received from Reality ... he refers to me as JaNUT.

 

Janet

He thought I was a man!

But he PM'd other women his size.
And it wasn't his hat size.



 
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« Reply #838 on: June 20, 2009, 08:13:02 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.

 


I think that the stuff Mark Purcell posted on open forums is disgusting.
 It says plenty about the type of person he is.

What does it say about Robin and Dave Holloway.  Considering Mark Purcell has done nothing to further justice for Natalee Holloway in the almost three years relationship with Dave and Robin ... what could be the underlying reason/s behind the friendship?

Janet

I know for a fact that it was Debbie bashing FaithMS to Robin Holloway.
So Robin Holloway thinks FaithMS was not to be trusted when she told her about Reality and MIP6.
One has to realize that the source of Robin Holloways information comes from Debbie!
So if Debbie tells Robin Holloway and she tells Dave you can trust Mark Purcell and Reality then she does because
Robin doesn't know what a lot of us know that has been said by Debbie. Robin has no idea that it was Debbie
that used another members nic and password so she could get into Ringo's site. She also got into another website
where the Freebirds were.

Of all the people she said she wanted to meet it was me she told me.
THEN I found out she was trying to investigate me.
THEN she started bashing me on her website.





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« Reply #839 on: June 20, 2009, 08:13:37 PM »

Tell us Kemit!

Yes, please tell us Kermit!   

And if you have any idea why the crotch shot/cleavage shot avis were the norm there, I'd like to know that too!  I have my own thoughts about that, but maybe I missed something important that made those appropriate and commonly used by some admin there.

 

 Monkey Devil!

I have the PMs of Reality that he sent to women and all of them are disgusting sex talk to them.
He has issues and if I had not seen them myself, I would not have believed it.


I guess I was spared.  The only PM I received from Reality ... he refers to me as JaNUT.

 

Janet

He thought I was a man!

But he PM'd other women his size.
And it wasn't his hat size.



Yeah....I am sure he told the truth on that subject. Monkey Devil!
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