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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 - 7/13/09 (Read 420991 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Does anyone know who Mayra Arambatzis Smalley, friend of Helen Lujuez who is a friend of Donna Oduber who is a friend of Rob Smith, is?
I'm not sure that makes a bit of sense, but who is Mayra Arambatzis Smalley. She doesn't look young enough to be Freddie's sister.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 22, 2009, 11:35:08 PM
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Hello monkeys,
Jen:
I didn't want you to think I missed your question - we are just on at different times. Not a forensic search (although my opinion of a forensic search is totally different than ALE) - more like "let's just move the stuff around to see if there is anything blatently there to
hide
investigate". And not early on. Reminds me of the secondary search of the VDS residence - any one of us monkeys good have done a more thorough job.
BTW, I agree with your definition of hypocrisy.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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June 22, 2009, 11:46:35 PM »
Quote from: Sleuth on June 22, 2009, 11:39:14 PM
Hello monkeys,
Jen:
I didn't want you to think I missed your question - we are just on at different times. Not a forensic search (although my opinion of a forensic search is totally different than ALE) - more like "let's just move the stuff around to see if there is anything blatently there to
hide
investigate". And not early on. Reminds me of the secondary search of the VDS residence -
any one of us monkeys good have done a more thorough job
.
BTW, I agree with your definition of hypocrisy.
sorry for the mis-type - it was a cross between "any one of us monkeys could have" and "any good monkey would have" ...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Just a real quick question...Who is Debbie?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: SuzieQ on June 22, 2009, 11:36:13 PM
Does anyone know who Mayra Arambatzis Smalley, friend of Helen Lujuez who is a friend of Donna Oduber who is a friend of Rob Smith, is?
I'm not sure that makes a bit of sense, but who is Mayra Arambatzis Smalley. She doesn't look young enough to be Freddie's sister.
SuzieQ, here's a link to some information on the Arambatzis family.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2973.0
In a fairly recent picture of Freddy, note the name tag: Freddy Zedan
http://epiaruba.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_ice&Itemid=54&catid=16&mode=0&PageNo=32770#IceGallery
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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This may be a repeat of other articles regarding the musical...
After all the hype - now 'Natalee - The Musical'
Published on : 22 June 2009 - 5:19pm | By Johan van Slooten
First there was the TV documentary, then came the book and the film and now there’s even the musical: the tragic story of the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba in 2005. But does that story really lend itself to entertainment?
Natalee – The Musical, conceived and performed by Dutch students with the Amsterdam PIPS Lab theatre company, focuses on the worldwide media coverage of Natalee’s disappearance. “It’s about the media hype”, director Thijs de Wit says. “No questions were asked about the motives that some people used to create this hype – until now”.
The show uses simple techniques to attract the audience’s attention: the small stage features a car, cameras everywhere, and 11 students in beach clothes. Above the stage there’s a large video screen.
Clips
Thijs de Wit says the musical is a performance of clips featuring Natalee Holloway, based on renowned Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries’s TV documentary, with various clips taken from the internet. “We’ve edited these images and put them in a different sequence, turning them into something completely different”, he says.
Hype
Mr De Wit got the idea for Natalee – The Musical after he had become intrigued by the commercial media hype that surrounded the personal suffering of the Holloway family. “Although I do recognise the intense suffering the family had to go through, there are numerous girls like Natalee”, Mr De Wit says.
“You don’t hear anything about all those other girls that are missing. Natalee’s case has been blown out of proportions and I don’t understand why”.
The show starts with a wall of thunderous music, with lyrics that are almost impossible to understand – but that’s deliberate, Thijs says. “I don’t want the audience to ask themselves any questions during the first 15 minutes of the show. They can do that after the show”.
Tasteless?
But isn’t it a bit strange – tasteless even – to stage a musical show on the suffering of others? Thijs de Wit doesn’t think so. “This case has already been exploited by people who were directly involved, like Natalee’s mother Beth, or Joran van der Sloot [who to many is the prime suspect], and TV and film producers".
“So why shouldn’t an artist be allowed to do the same and turn it into something grotesque?" he adds. "Besides, a musical is the most commercialised form of theatre, so I thought it was appropriate to use that form for a stage production that dealt with commercialisation”.
Frown
Mr De Wit allows the audience to frown on these things, but on one condition: “They should then consider everything else that’s been happening”, he says. “Seven million people [in the Netherlands] watched Mr De Vries’s TV programme, which was much more commercialised than this performance. He sold it to American networks for a lot of money. So who is wrong here?”.
Mock the subject
The show’s audiences have responded well to the musical. “The singing was good and the show was less serious than I’d expected”, says one spectator. Some people do wonder whether it's a good thing to stage such a show, but the answers to this question are positive: “You can do it the way they did it”, says another visitor. “But if you do it any other way, it will be difficult. You clearly see they are mocking the subject itself. It’s not dealing with what actually happened to that girl. This is just a fun, crazy show”.
Listen to a Newsline interview with Thijs de Vries
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/after-all-hype-now-natalee-musical
Johan van Slooten - Newsline host and radio producer
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: BUCKSHOT on June 22, 2009, 11:50:26 PM
Just a real quick question...Who is Debbie?
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Quote from: hotping on June 22, 2009, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on June 22, 2009, 10:40:49 PM
Quote from: hotping on June 22, 2009, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 22, 2009, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: hotping on June 22, 2009, 02:08:19 PM
The use of the word WE is very strange....I wonder if the Persistence crew did a sample dive but left everything there to watch ALE...Then ALE took off with all the contents of the trap...hmmm
hotping ... Tim Trahan was not on the boat on January 7th but ... Kyle never specified when he left the ship following the December 30th visual dive.
Could it be that Tim Trahan did another dive on the trap prior to the recovery process.
If there was nothing case related in that trap
.... considering Kyle Kingman's own words ... in his defence ... I cannot comprehend why John Silvetti would not turn over ROV videos and documentation to the FBI.
If there was nothing case related in that trap
... considering Kyle Kingman's own words ... in his defence ... I cannot comprehend why John Silvetti is not joining forces with the former administrator of the Natalee's Freebirds ... in obtaining evidence that can be used in a defamation lawsuit?
If there was nothing case related in that trap
... considering Kyle Kingman's own words ... why were Kyle Kingman, Louis Schaefer and Tim Traham attempting to make a deal with networks to expose the "conspiracy"?
It is as if John Silvetti and his supporters are hoping Kyle Kingman's words will just go away and ... give the family and those who supported the search effort prayfully and financially
the impression
that John Silvetti did not participate in the finale to the the Aruban coverup that has denied justice to an 18 year old American citizen since May 30, 2005.
Janet
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KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS
Kyle Kingman:
On the contrary, neither Dave, Robin, or Beth has seen any of the ROV footage aside from what was broadcasted on Dateline or the pictures leaked from the FBI to Dave (and Robin H.). Beth has seen nothing in my knowledge. Oh, noone has possession of any footage except Tim Trahan, an archived copy on the Persistence, and myself.
Kyle Kingman – 05/19/08:
I couldn't get the logs from the Persistence. All things "Holloway" were stripped from the boat once it got back to Louisiana. I had some stuff on my hard drive, but not those logs with the names. The logs and other information are in an unknown secure location. Only two people know that location and I am not one of them. I know better not even to ask about it, especially now."
Kyle Kingman
: Well, it's all going to happen. The big card will soon be played. I just had a secret meeting with Tim Trahan and by proxy, Louis Shafer. Tomorrow, Tim
Trahan will get in touch with Beth Holloway in regards to the trap footage and missing evidence. We're getting geared up to play the conspiracy cover-up card on Aruba and force the bogus investigation out into the open. We believe the trap footage may be the missing piece which will raise a BIG question in the minds of the public everywhere.
We're in the process of figuring out how to produce and spin the story most accurately and most effectively. Also, and completely independant and unrelated, John will be in Aruba tomorrow and will report soon. This is a different issue. He knows nothing of what we're about to do with the footage.
I believe that Tim Trahan could have made a second dive.....
I believe you could be right. I believe that Kyle's words
may have been
orchestrated.....just my thoughts at the moment and at other times. I just cannot prove them.
My thoughts were that it was a slip up on Kyle's part that He did not consciously mean to say WE.....JMO
I am not sure what he was meaning to say, at this point. ..thus the term orchestrated....I'm having a no trust moment with a lot of his posts....you may be on the mark as I said. Time will tell.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on June 23, 2009, 12:02:04 AM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on June 22, 2009, 11:50:26 PM
Just a real quick question...Who is Debbie?
Admin of BFN, Buckshot. (Good to see you, again, btw)
U2, as well as others.
Debbie is a stage name for the internet, I presume.
Does her real name coincide with known connections?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: Sleuth on June 22, 2009, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Sleuth on June 22, 2009, 11:39:14 PM
Hello monkeys,
Jen:
I didn't want you to think I missed your question - we are just on at different times. Not a forensic search (although my opinion of a forensic search is totally different than ALE) - more like "let's just move the stuff around to see if there is anything blatently there to
hide
investigate". And not early on. Reminds me of the secondary search of the VDS residence -
any one of us monkeys good have done a more thorough job
.
BTW, I agree with your definition of hypocrisy.
sorry for the mis-type - it was a cross between "any one of us monkeys could have" and "any good monkey would have" ...
It's always good to see you Sleuth!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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June 23, 2009, 12:17:09 AM »
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on June 23, 2009, 12:10:43 AM
Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on June 23, 2009, 12:02:04 AM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on June 22, 2009, 11:50:26 PM
Just a real quick question...Who is Debbie?
Admin of BFN, Buckshot. (Good to see you, again, btw)
U2, as well as others.
Debbie is a stage name for the internet, I presume.
Does her real name coincide with known connections?
I have no idea if Debbie is her real first name or not. Others, who have had experience there may have more input than I.....I am reigstered under another name and have never posted and have had minimal reading time there.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: klaasend on June 22, 2009, 09:32:26 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 21, 2009, 06:44:46 PM
IRIS44
Since when is wondering if members of Natalee's family or Tim Miller may have been "duped" by members of AHATA disquised as friends, the same thing as not supporting the family?
We have always supported Natalee and Natalee's parents (Beth and Dave). I have also supported Jug as he did his best to stand by Natalee and Beth. Robin on the other hand does her best to stand by Reality and MIP6 who have both said horrible things about the MB kids, Beth and Jug. That is something I personally cannot support.
Iris44
- my post above too simple to reply to?
I'm giving this a bump up, maybe Iris44 didn't see it?
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Thanks Texasmom,
Started reading at the link you gave me and got very confused. I think MumInOhio got some of it wrong. In the Spanish community( and by them being from Venezuela I assume they are Spanish) they go by two surnames. The father first, and the mother last. So Freddie's name would be Freddie Arambatzis Zedan. Arambatzis being his father and Zedan being his mother. When they live in other countries they either hyphonate the names or just go by their mothers' name.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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June 23, 2009, 12:35:56 AM »
Quote from: texasmom on June 23, 2009, 12:19:45 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 22, 2009, 09:32:26 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 21, 2009, 06:44:46 PM
IRIS44
Since when is wondering if members of Natalee's family or Tim Miller may have been "duped" by members of AHATA disquised as friends, the same thing as not supporting the family?
We have always supported Natalee and Natalee's parents (Beth and Dave). I have also supported Jug as he did his best to stand by Natalee and Beth. Robin on the other hand does her best to stand by Reality and MIP6 who have both said horrible things about the MB kids, Beth and Jug. That is something I personally cannot support.
Iris44
- my post above too simple to reply to?
I'm giving this a bump up, maybe Iris44 didn't see it?
She has a different posting schedule than some of us, it seems. Irregular, imo.
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June 23, 2009, 12:38:45 AM »
The crime was fairly simple...
The cover-up has been never-ending...
Just when a person thinks they have it all figured out...More questions...
Good thing there are a lot of smart Monkeys around here...
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Quote from: SuzieQ on June 23, 2009, 12:34:52 AM
Thanks Texasmom,
Started reading at the link you gave me and got very confused. I think MumInOhio got some of it wrong. In the Spanish community( and by them being from Venezuela I assume they are Spanish) they go by two surnames. The father first, and the mother last. So Freddie's name would be Freddie Arambatzis Zedan. Arambatzis being his father and Zedan being his mother. When they live in other countries they either hyphonate the names or just go by their mothers' name.
When I worked in personnel years ago, I thought it was the middle surname that was the mother's .....guess they had me fooled.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Forgot to add, Spain is one of the few Matriarchal socities in the world.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #820 6/10/09 -
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Quote from: SuzieQ on June 23, 2009, 12:34:52 AM
Thanks Texasmom,
Started reading at the link you gave me and got very confused. I think MumInOhio got some of it wrong. In the Spanish community( and by them being from Venezuela I assume they are Spanish) they go by two surnames. The father first, and the mother last. So Freddie's name would be Freddie Arambatzis Zedan. Arambatzis being his father and Zedan being his mother. When they live in other countries they either hyphonate the names or just go by their mothers' name.
YW SuzieQ, I'm not surprised by the confusion at all; been there done that.
I knew that many had contributed to the information, and thought you might find something helpful there.
Your input is appreciated!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Thanks, SusieQ and everyone. Was away for the weekend and am fading. (tired blood?...
)
Have a good night.
Justice for Natalee.
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I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
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===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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