Caylee Marie Anthony #133 5/26/09 - 5/29/09

[SunnyinTX]

Remember this?

http://www.wftv.com/news/17854568/detail.html

Jose Baez Repeatedly Told To Stop Touching Casey During Jail Visits



Eyewitness News has discovered that on at least two occasions jail staff had to step in and Baez was warned repeatedly about hugging Casey during their visits.

A jail report states: "The inmate's attorney was observed hugging inmate and was advised that physical contact was prohibited."

A week later, another report stated: "Baez again observed hugging his client."

The room Baez and Anthony meet in is very small and typically there is a desk and two chairs.

Sources told Eyewitness News that on one occasion, Anthony was sitting and Baez was very close to her face. A corrections officer had to go into the room to separate them.

"Orange County jail policy forbids any kind of touching between visitors and inmates. Mr. Baez was cooperative and agreed not to repeat the behavior. Mr. Baez has always been professional and cooperative in his interactions with the Orange County Corrections Department," jail spokesman Alan Moore said in a statement.

Eyewitness News confronted Jose Baez about the situation.

"I have no comment," he said.

Eyewitness news' legal analyst Bill Schaeffer said it's unusual that an attorney would ever touch a client.

"The more experience you are in handling these type of clients or situation, the less likely you are to place yourself in a situation that could be regarded as a compromising situation," said Schaeffer.

When Casey was out on bond, there were several times that she would spend six hours a day at Baez's office including Saturdays. There's nothing criminal about having a relationship with a client, but Schaeffer said there are ethical issues.

"The appellate court could find that relationship overstepped the bounds of attorney client relationship and affected that performance and order a new trial," he said.

There was no evidence that Baez and Casey were actually having a relationship.

The reason touching isn't allowed at the jail is because contraband items could be passed. Baez told jail officials that he didn't know the rules, and wouldn't do it again.

[cece]

First, I couldnt get back in touch with Lenny long enough to have a conversation today, I called back but he was still quite busy with something but said to call back tomorrow...Ill let yas know

Second, and sit down for my take on the motion:

I'm livid at Uncer & Richardson, who the frig paid them off to be all sympathetic - sorry to say but its damning testimony..Im absolutely sickened over it.   Why on earth are they so at the ready to say Casey's treatment in this incident was cruel...hmm.  The damage is done, its going to be a tough pill to swallow tomorrow when this is discussed in court, of course Bozo is exaggerating but the weight of 2 jail employees against what was done is going to be a possible small victory for the defense, it will be interesting to see if there are other staff members that contradict what transpired according to Uncer & Richardson.

I would beg to differ on it being "cruel" sorry to me it doesnt rise to that level, she wasnt exactly beat about the head or waterboarded for the love of God! Snit killing an innocent babygirl IS "cruel."    It will not effect the case in chief but it will go towards a theme Bozo & team will use at trial that his client was mistreated & law enforcement acted with misconduct....ugh here we go!  Don't panic though because this sidetrack wont prevail in derailing the jury from its task at hand because it has nothing to do with what Casey did between 6/15 - 7/15 and leading up to that time frame, her guilt or innocence should be based on that.   In the case of a murdered baby getting a jury to ignore the evidence out of sympathy or outside factors would be an enormous mountain to climb, IMHO not happening.

That being said, his argument regarding medical history is weak.   They did not disclose her medical records, they did not report on her treatment other than what Casey herself requested.   Their comments regarding her mental state by staff were observations, not medical treatment or diagnose.   The State's counter balance will be to argue that the jail knew she had a radio, that she may need medical attention upon hearing this news & the proper place for her would have been to escort her to the medical center.   On this issue and the privacy issue, he will not prevail easily if at all - doesnt matter the above will be enough for the judge to probably seal it.

Prepare yourselves now because at this point without the benefit of hearing tomorrow's assertions & arguments, I must say I doubt the tape will be released.   As far as the phone records of the laundry list of people Bozo wants to find fault with, he will not prevail - he will be told if at all that his scope is limited & that more and likely will be laid out specifically as to what that shall be.

Thank you Capp.  I haven't gotten a chance to read his motion yet, but can you tell from reading it if the new DP attorney helped him with it?  Or is it still the same old Baez?

[trimmonthelake]

Sassy,I remember that video.It was the day after the 911 call. 
I can't find the video.

Right.  I remember some of the talking heads were saying Baez was probably upset with KC for making that 911 call because it showed that she knew right from wrong and the possibility for an insanity defense became almost impossible at that point.

I remember that, too. 

Casey called 911 re the protesters on the night of Sept. 17.  So, Sept. 18 would be the "lovers' spat" in the driveway day, right? 

Ooh, thanks, Fanny just spotted your most helpful hint that it was a Fox vid.  Will try again.

I still can't find that video. 
Maybe Seemeatthebeach has it.She has a lot of stuff.

[Cappuccino]

Cece its Bozo's language including this little dig "movie like production"   pot calling kettle there, ey? 

Are you guys talking about the day that Bozo and Casey emerged from the house where he appeared miffed and slammed the car door?  It showed them arriving at his office too.   I remember seeing that video, check fox35 or wftv archives

[trimmonthelake]

Thanks Capp.I thought it sounded bad about Uncer and Richardson as well.WTF is going on?

[trimmonthelake]

Sunny,I remember that..Baez is such a putz.

[cece]

Cece its Bozo's language including this little dig "movie like production"   pot calling kettle there, ey? 

Are you guys talking about the day that Bozo and Casey emerged from the house where he appeared miffed and slammed the car door?  It showed them arriving at his office too.   I remember seeing that video, check fox35 or wftv archives

Thanks Capp.  Yes, sounds like Bozo.

[Fanny Mae]

Sassy,I remember that video.It was the day after the 911 call. 
I can't find the video.

Right.  I remember some of the talking heads were saying Baez was probably upset with KC for making that 911 call because it showed that she knew right from wrong and the possibility for an insanity defense became almost impossible at that point.

I remember that, too. 

Casey called 911 re the protesters on the night of Sept. 17.  So, Sept. 18 would be the "lovers' spat" in the driveway day, right? 

Ooh, thanks, Fanny just spotted your most helpful hint that it was a Fox vid.  Will try again.

I still can't find that video. 
Maybe Seemeatthebeach has it.She has a lot of stuff.

I still can't find it either. I found it once before and I had to look and look that time too.  I think I deleted it the night I had my hissy fit and swore I would never follow the case and cleaned out my files....

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Capp.I thought it sounded bad about Uncer and Richardson as well.WTF is going on?

I didn't read the motion, if someone could post the link, I'd appreciate it. So it appears that these two, Uncer and Richardson feel the treatment Casey received was inhumane? Am I understanding this right? Well, this isn't good.

[TURBOTHINK]

After reading the articles about the memorial being taken down, and the comments that George made, I'm going to say it again, I think George is worse then Cindy, he just has a sneakier way about him, while Cindy is in your face crazy and mean as he!! 

I'm sure he mentioned the CMA Foundation but wesh just quoted charity.

George is the KEY to this case. It is about him and his past which will be what breaks the case in court.  Remember I said that ~~

[Cappuccino]

Ok monkey friends Im gonna go chill out with something totally unrelated to emotion, watching So You Think You Can Dance.  God I love love love to dance - miss it so much when my spine doesnt cooperate, but on a good day yea I can still drop it 

Ill check in on the late side, last I looked with the Neveah case something breaking was horrific but no further word for confirmations so I must check back with that.   Hang in there until tomorrow - we'll have a few victorious moments & a few not so much

Monkey Huggs! 

[SunnyinTX]

Sunny,I remember that..Baez is such a putz.

Such an experienced criminal defense attorney that he doesn't even know the rules of the jail

[Cappuccino]

Here ya go NoRose, cyas later

Baez motion
PDF http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0527/19583157.pdf

[N2WISHN]

Remember this?

http://www.wftv.com/news/17854568/detail.html

Jose Baez Repeatedly Told To Stop Touching Casey During Jail Visits



Eyewitness News has discovered that on at least two occasions jail staff had to step in and Baez was warned repeatedly about hugging Casey during their visits.

A jail report states: "The inmate's attorney was observed hugging inmate and was advised that physical contact was prohibited."

A week later, another report stated: "Baez again observed hugging his client."

The room Baez and Anthony meet in is very small and typically there is a desk and two chairs.

Sources told Eyewitness News that on one occasion, Anthony was sitting and Baez was very close to her face. A corrections officer had to go into the room to separate them.

"Orange County jail policy forbids any kind of touching between visitors and inmates. Mr. Baez was cooperative and agreed not to repeat the behavior. Mr. Baez has always been professional and cooperative in his interactions with the Orange County Corrections Department," jail spokesman Alan Moore said in a statement.

Eyewitness News confronted Jose Baez about the situation.

"I have no comment," he said.

Eyewitness news' legal analyst Bill Schaeffer said it's unusual that an attorney would ever touch a client.

"The more experience you are in handling these type of clients or situation, the less likely you are to place yourself in a situation that could be regarded as a compromising situation," said Schaeffer.

When Casey was out on bond, there were several times that she would spend six hours a day at Baez's office including Saturdays. There's nothing criminal about having a relationship with a client, but Schaeffer said there are ethical issues.

"The appellate court could find that relationship overstepped the bounds of attorney client relationship and affected that performance and order a new trial," he said.

There was no evidence that Baez and Casey were actually having a relationship.

The reason touching isn't allowed at the jail is because contraband items could be passed. Baez told jail officials that he didn't know the rules, and wouldn't do it again.

Yes, I do remember that. And I also remember the slap on the hand for Bozo...

http://www.wesh.com/news/17855107/detail.html

Baez Warned About Physical Contact With Casey
Bounty Hunter Padilla To Help Equusearch Team
POSTED: 8:24 am EDT October 31, 2008
UPDATED: 5:48 pm EDT October 31, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- The defense attorney for Casey Anthony has been warned about physical contact with his client.

Jail records indicated Jose Baez was seen hugging Anthony during a recent visit.

The records indicated that Baez was warned that rules prohibit contact with an inmate, and they showed he had hugged her on another visit.

The jail staff had to again warn him that contact was against the rules.

Baez told correctional officers he would remember not to do it again.

Corrections officials said they don't plan to take further action.

[cece]

Good night Capp.  Enjoy your evening!

Good night Monkeys.  I tried to get everything caught up today so I can make it for the hearing tomorrow (10:00).  Everyone get plenty of rest & sweet dreams.  See you tomorrow.   

[trimmonthelake]

Thunderstorm coming.I outta here. 
Remember court in the morning.......and the never ending search for the video. 

[N2WISHN]

After reading the articles about the memorial being taken down, and the comments that George made, I'm going to say it again, I think George is worse then Cindy, he just has a sneakier way about him, while Cindy is in your face crazy and mean as he!! 

I'm sure he mentioned the CMA Foundation but wesh just quoted charity.

George is the KEY to this case. It is about him and his past which will be what breaks the case in court.  Remember I said that ~~

I couldn't agree with you more. I also believe LE knows what his involvement is and are just biding time. GA is a guy that knows a lot about a lot of things

[no rose colored glasses]

Ok monkey friends Im gonna go chill out with something totally unrelated to emotion, watching So You Think You Can Dance.  God I love love love to dance - miss it so much when my spine doesnt cooperate, but on a good day yea I can still drop it 

Ill check in on the late side, last I looked with the Neveah case something breaking was horrific but no further word for confirmations so I must check back with that.   Hang in there until tomorrow - we'll have a few victorious moments & a few not so much

Monkey Huggs! 

Have a good evening, every night I go watch stuff like Andy Griffith Show, so I can go back in time and remember being a kid. And you are right, I spent a good part of my day checking on Neveah, and this is really bad    Tomorrow, should be interesting.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thunderstorm coming.I outta here. 
Remember court in the morning.......and the never ending search for the video. 

Be safe 

[no rose colored glasses]

Good night Capp.  Enjoy your evening!

Good night Monkeys.  I tried to get everything caught up today so I can make it for the hearing tomorrow (10:00).  Everyone get plenty of rest & sweet dreams.  See you tomorrow.   

Have a good evening