Lively Case Discussion #488 7/6 - 7/7/2006

[Buckeye]

Are there porn swap sites??  Could Joran have been on line with a porn site that lets you upload and save??  Are there such things??

[Houdini]

Thirdstrike wrote:

Houdini, give yourself a little more credit then that, ok? Nobody is "second banana" in my book! We're ALL frontrunners, ok? You'd be as important to my practice as I'd be to yours...

True Dat.  I WAS pretty good as the "plumber".

[klaasend]

Are there porn swap sites??  Could Joran have been on line with a porn site that lets you upload and save??  Are there such things??

I'd bet my life there is.

[Houdini]

Buckeye wrote:

Are there porn swap sites?? Could Joran have been on line with a porn site that lets you upload and save?? Are there such things??

I'm sure there are amateur sites, but I doubt they would do a live feed.  And if while they were filming, the "something bad happened", they definitely wouldn't distribute.

That would make them 2 steps "beyond" stupid.

[klaasend]

Buckeye wrote:

Are there porn swap sites?? Could Joran have been on line with a porn site that lets you upload and save?? Are there such things??

I'm sure there are amateur sites, but I doubt they would do a live feed.  And if while they were filming, the "something bad happened", they definitely wouldn't distribute.

That would make them 2 steps "beyond" stupid.

He would upload it first then share.  Maybe something bad didn't happen until after they stopped filming?

[Houdini]

Klaasend wrote:

I'd bet my life there is.

Whoa Klaas, lets hope it never comes to that.

Always bet something you don't "mind" losing.

[thirdstrike]

Third, their equipment was much more sophisticated, technology, than ours at the time and Freddy has the connections and Deepak/Steve Croes the skills.  You don't get out much, do you?

Dag, what's with everyone questioning my "street smarts" all of a sudden??  A man states his opinion, and all of a sudden he's this little innocent sheltered cat who's been let out of the cage for the first time...

There's a big difference in altering an image on film (in hopes of disguising identities) then to superimpose a different head, as an example, on another's body and make it look realistic.  To do that, we're talking (most likely) computer animation which, I might add, can be VERY easily traced via layers on the file itself.  It's not an easy thing to do...regardless of the advanced technology they are (I guess) obviously in possession of.  Oh, I know...maybe they contracted LucasFilm to do it?  Oh, my bad...I don't get out much...

Houdini, can you translate this please?

[Buckeye]

One last question.

Don't you think the casino video is capable of showing the shoes Joran had on...even if we can't see them??  Maybe they said, let me see your white midtop shoes with the blue stripes and he couldn't find them.  He did seem to emphasize removing them to prevent "sand" when asked about getting them "wet".  I think his nice shoes got wet with something and he couldn't produce them.  Maybe they found one or two by one of the "none" crime scenes and he declared a different size.

[thirdstrike]

No, but they could probably blur out the face.

That was my point Klass!  But, I was told I needed to "get out" more...  

[Tylergal]

The painting was made of a harlot.  She was a very ugly woman.  The artist wanted a beautiful face on the painting.  As a beautiful American girl dined with her mother at an outdoor restaurant in Paris, the artist attached her face to the nude body.  The rest is history.  The story is here.

http://www.sniggle.net/septmorn.php

[Tylergal]

No, but they could probably blur out the face.

That was my point Klass!  But, I was told I needed to "get out" more...  

      I'm playing with you, XXX.

[klaasend]

Klaasend wrote:

I'd bet my life there is.

Whoa Klaas, lets hope it never comes to that.

Always bet something you don't "mind" losing.

EXAMPLE:  I rest my case  

[Houdini]

Thirdstrike wrote:

Houdini, can you translate this please?

I'll do my best Third.


Third is offended that his extensive experience with porno tapes is being brought into question.


I think it might have lost a "little" in the translation Third.

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Really though, some of the toughest image manipulation is being done in films but it is way too cost prohibitive for anyone short of a major studio.  Alot of the films you see today try to use as little computer generated effects as possible to keep the chances of a financial return on the film bigger.

[thirdstrike]

No, but they could probably blur out the face.

That was my point Klass!  But, I was told I needed to "get out" more...  

      I'm playing with you, XXX.

That's cool then.  My bad Tyler.  I guess I'm maybe getting a little "cranky" in here waiting for my workday to end.  I apologize for my perceived aggression.  We all good?

[Tylergal]

No, but they could probably blur out the face.

That was my point Klass!  But, I was told I needed to "get out" more...  

      I'm playing with you, XXX.

That's cool then.  My bad Tyler.  I guess I'm maybe getting a little "cranky" in here waiting for my workday to end.  I apologize for my perceived aggression.  We all good?

[thirdstrike]

Thirdstrike wrote:

Houdini, can you translate this please?

I'll do my best Third.


Third is offended that his extensive experience with porno tapes is being brought into question.


I think it might have lost a "little" in the translation Third.

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Really though, some of the toughest image manipulation is being done in films but it is way too cost prohibitive for anyone short of a major studio.  Alot of the films you see today try to use as little computer generated effects as possible to keep the chances of a financial return on the film bigger.

No Houdini, you maye have been right on!! Very well done sir...

I also (very firmly actually) agree with your assessment on the image manipulation front.  Blurring out her face...quite possible.  Attaching Julia Roberts head...quite unlikely, IMO.

[justinsmama]

LOL! You guyz are killin' me! Houdini and XXX are quite the team today!

[Houdini]

Thirdstrike wrote:

I also (very firmly actually) agree with your assessment on the image manipulation front. Blurring out her face...quite possible. Attaching Julia Roberts head...quite unlikely, IMO.

While we're on this topic, Pirates of the Caribbean II comes out today.  Disney took a big chance with the first one (because of all the CGI special effects).  It made a boat load of money, so I expect there are even more in Pirates II.  You know, once you find something that works.......wear it out.

[klaasend]

This just posted in the front page area by a poster with the name *******:

A year ago Diario or another aruban newspaper reported a article that 2 columbian women were kidnapped and held as sex slaves.I beleave they were accusing Rudy Croes!!Offcourse I never saw anything else about this.Anyone remember this?

Which one of these stories is true?

We have the chicago videos a day after jorans confession and now the ALE admits they retreaved a 7 year olds body that was in several pieces.We have 2 witnesses that say they saw natalee being retreaved from a dumpster behind the HI the day after her dissapearance.One of them is said to be in a mental hospital who helped bury her.We have a witness who says that they used koens boat the next day to bury her.Another witness says he saw natalee being buried at the landfill.Another witness says he say joran swim a body out to sea.Diario reported that mid way draining the pond that they closed it off and it became a crime scene and they may have found something and the police were extremely nervous..And now the plastic bag that seems to have a body inside it.

Did I miss anything?I am willing to bet one of these stories is a fact!I am also quite sure natalee suffered some sort of head injury and at least one of them had sex with her before she dissapeared.Joran tells his headmaster she hit her head and drowned?He brags to classmates he had sex with her?Where is the Information about her being in and out of conscioussness?

Look at one of the very first reports that came from aruba.AM digitalAn online newspaper, AM Digital, hosted at Aruba.com has reported that the three men involved in the Natalee Holloway disappearance claimed to have had sexual relations with the 18 year old Alabama high school senior at the beach prior to returning her to her hotel at approximate 2 AM.
We also have the skeeter tapes that he swears deepak admitted that all 3 had sex with her.Damn it..Did he admit it or not?I listened to the tapes and he said no but there was a strange bleep before he said that and that version was obviously altered.

Where did AM digital get this information?I will bet everything I have that this coverup runs deep through rudy croes back yard.THis was not a perfect crime.These Idiots were so sloppy it took the Govt to hide and conceal all there mistakes.This is the only case I have ever seen that the prosecution,defense and the Govt are all working on the same team.All working together to hide the truth!!!

[Jacqueline]

Hi Monkeys!

Hope everyone has a great week end.