Lively Case Discussion #488 7/6 - 7/7/2006

[Lala'sMom]

Lala's Mom wrote:

Houdini
Don't think you are immune to my pencils either.

UH OH, What happens with the pencils?

   

[San]

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Exactly...to drown out her calls for help.

I have always wondered about this and of course still do.  None of the MB kids confirmed they heard it on second questioning, at least not the Aruba Woo Hoo or whatever it was supposed to have been.  But note the Dutch reenactment jumped on that.   It is a lame attempt to make it appear she was in the car of her own free will and was not kidnapped or taken by force or deceit.

Her last known words remain that she was going back to the HI with them, indicating a group of the MB students.  I wonder what changed her mind between the sidewalk and the car.  

I agree Anna.  Those words that she screamed out the window of the car we made by Deepak first and if I am not mistaken I believe Joran repeated it in an interview.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Snuff films are big internet business as well as back room video.  I am not totally sure that there is any film of Natalee's demise, but if Freddy is to be involved here, I think video would be the optimum word here.  Maybe there was filming of the sex, but when she was carried to the regular drop-off location and came into consciousness, someone realized she could remember enough to implicate several important others.  That is when the "something bad happened".  When she tried to get away from Joran. She made him angry and he knocked her down on the pavement or maybe she fell and hit her head on the pavement because she was so drugged.  Combine that with adrenaline rush from fear and you could have lethal combination.

I had to ask someone before what the term snuff film meant. Made me sick. Un real, sickos out there do this kind of thing.  Damn.. (um.. hope your pencil point is broke since I swore..lol)
  Huggin Nemo at  camp for yah!  

[Lala'sMom]

Klaas
Were those rocks and the waterfall already in place the night that Natalee disappeared and just the rock work around the pool were put in later?  Or do I have that backwards?

[Houdini]

ldstlou wrote:

Houdini and 3rd...you are quite the pair!! You need to hit Vegas!! Have me peeing my pants again!!!!

A word of advice........................DEPENDS.

[klaasend]

Klaas
Were those rocks and the waterfall already in place the night that Natalee disappeared and just the rock work around the pool were put in later?  Or do I have that backwards?

I don't think we know.

[Leslie]

Over at BFN, Kermit has posted some pix of the VDS backyard by the pool. The discussion is cement work. He noted that there are trees there now when there were no trees before. Does anyone have any pix of around the pool early on ? What interests me is that Pile of Rocks shown in December. Good Boy is at his laptop. It might look nice from the when you see the whole thing, but why cut off access to going right around the whole pool ? Was that there before ? ie July ???

Can you provide a link?

[Lala'sMom]

Klaas
Were those rocks and the waterfall already in place the night that Natalee disappeared and just the rock work around the pool were put in later?  Or do I have that backwards?

I don't think we know.

Well, when I look at that pic of Joran sitting there so smug...I think about what might be underneath that itty bitty waterfall.  Get my drift?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

ldstlou wrote:

Houdini and 3rd...you are quite the pair!! You need to hit Vegas!! Have me peeing my pants again!!!!

A word of advice........................DEPENDS.

  LOL~!!  

[ldstlou]

Hi.. lurking around, great posts btw.
Houdini and Third.. I must admit.. you 2 are on the rol today!
TY for the chuckles!!

(I talked to Nonesuche a few minutes ago via phone. Her hubby had his last chemo today.. starts again in 2 weeks. His Bloodwork is good as well)..hes really tired.. and down. And God love'er.. shes exhausted.
Her power is out at the moment.. her cell battery died when we were talking.  If I hear more.. I will let you know.. she thanks everyone for their prayers.. )

Hi Angie -

Thanks so much for the update.  Why is her power out?  Is the weather bad in her area?

 No.. I asked her about the weather.. she said a transformer went out.. and may not be fixed til 9 pm tonight. Her laptop has been messed up and shes not able to use it. Her other PC is upstairs.. but her hubby is downstairs.. and she wants to be near him.. (which I dont blame her at all..) Although her hubby isnt feeling well .. he did get some good reports back.

I don't know nonesuche at all...but wish we could all jump in the van and go cheer them up...heck...I'm even up to doing a little housecleaning for them!!

[Carnut]

Thirdstrike wrote:

More "Shango" talk, huh? You know how I feel about that junk...

Has anybody checked Nostradamus?  He might have the whole thing solved for us, possibly in writing we could readily decipher.

Just a thought.

First you find the solution, then you go back and find code that fits the solution.

[Kat_Gram]

Klaas
Were those rocks and the waterfall already in place the night that Natalee disappeared and just the rock work around the pool were put in later?  Or do I have that backwards?

I really don't know, but in the middle picture, it does look as if there is that rock thing. There is so little room between the wall and the pool ?
And it's not as if I am going to go there, jump the fence with my pickaxe and find out, eh ?
Maybe it's just for a cool spot by the pool. Like a cool little family spot. My imagination has run away with me ! !

[Angiex911dsptchr]

[quote="ldstlou  I don't know nonesuche at all...but wish we could all jump in the van and go cheer them up...heck...I'm even up to doing a little housecleaning for them!![/quote]



  Lisa... how sweet. and believe me.. if she were able to read what you posted., she would be very greatful for the thoughts!!  

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Someday I will learn how to quote properly.. sorry  

[Houdini]

ldstlou wrote:

I don't know nonesuche at all...but wish we could all jump in the van and go cheer them up...heck...I'm even up to doing a little housecleaning for them!!

Let me give you my address.

[Houdini]

Carnut wrote:

First you find the solution, then you go back and find code that fits the solution.

Nostradamus has that "one code fits all" writings.  They're still discovering stuff he predicted..........after it happens.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

ldstlou wrote:

I don't know nonesuche at all...but wish we could all jump in the van and go cheer them up...heck...I'm even up to doing a little housecleaning for them!!

Let me give you my address.

 I betcha BOC has a nice outfit she may be able to wear too..LOL  

[Carnut]

La la's Mom wrote:

Hi monkeys. Is it my imagination or has Thirdstrike left me for Anna???  

I hope he knows that no amount of sweet talk will get me back now. Where are my pencils when I need them??

Now lets not jump to confusions, la la.  He was just setting the record straight.

I'm sure he has a logical explanation.

Hell, Thirdstrike could talk his way out of a "sunburn".

  probably rug burns too..

Heh, heh, I have a lady friend who still chuckles about our rug burns in the past.

[Kat_Gram]

Anna
I noticed his diss about Shango.  why won't he learn that is my favorite subject??  He just won't listen, his sibling, Houdini, needs to get him in line with the rules.  There is always one kid in the group that is the troublemaker.  

[/b]And that is usually me.

[ldstlou]

[
Exactly...to drown out her calls for help.

I have always wondered about this and of course still do.  None of the MB kids confirmed they heard it on second questioning, at least not the Aruba Woo Hoo or whatever it was supposed to have been.  But note the Dutch reenactment jumped on that.   It is a lame attempt to make it appear she was in the car of her own free will and was not kidnapped or taken by force or deceit.

Her last known words remain that she was going back to the HI with them, indicating a group of the MB students.  I wonder what changed her mind between the sidewalk and the car.  

I agree Anna.  Those words that she screamed out the window of the car we made by Deepak first and if I am not mistaken I believe Joran repeated it in an interview.

I agree..mentioned that earlier..think it was to prove she went on her own free will