Lively Case Discussion #488 7/6 - 7/7/2006

[klaasend]

Holy Crap Klaas...  I never paid much attention to Cingular.. YIKeS!

LOL    That's just an example.  There are several cell phones out there with video capability.  It's been available for some time now.

[ldstlou]

OR - it could have been sent from Joran's cell phone to Deepak's cell phone and Deepak would not have had to be at home.  In fact, if it was transmitted to Deepak''s email nobody had to be at home.  I think the information we have on that 8 1/2 minute transmission is very vague.

I can't remember the time of the call...do you remember Klaas

[Anna]

[Now, Deepak receives the email.  If he wants to see the video he needs to open it up which will automatically leave a temporary file on his PC.  If he saves it to his PC then it's on his hard drive.  If he emails it to others it's on lot's of hard drives.

All the Pimps get a copy as well as the computer Deepak uses at the Cyber Cafe.

I want one of those little camera phones.  Carnut has one.  He says the instruction booklet is half an inch think.     I know what that means, more technology I am too old and stupid to figure out how to use.
But I have had a couple of people come to see puppies and transmit little videos of them back to somebody at home for approval or not.

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[ldstlou]

Holy Crap Klaas...  I never paid much attention to Cingular.. YIKeS!

LOL    That's just an example.  There are several cell phones out there with video capability.  It's been available for some time now.

I have cingular but that thar is way to suffisticated for me!! haha

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Holy Crap Klaas...  I never paid much attention to Cingular.. YIKeS!

LOL    That's just an example.  There are several cell phones out there with video capability.  It's been available for some time now.

  Guess my Verizon Lg is boring..  LOL

[SunFreak2]

Yes BUT, if it was transmitted to Deepak's email address via Joran's cellphone, Deepak would then download it to his PC or may have even forwarded it on to others.

Klaas...do you really think that is the case? Never looked at that phone call like this before...does not make sense if he was asking for help he would talk for 8 minutes...probably more like a quick get over here now!! need help!

ok, 8 MINUTE ELECTRONIC contact between Joran & Deepak.  Joran's cell phone to Deepak's computer?  What time did this occur?  Does someone have to be present to receive the transfer? WHere does this place Joran, Deepak, Satish and Freddy?

[ldstlou]

[Now, Deepak receives the email.  If he wants to see the video he needs to open it up which will automatically leave a temporary file on his PC.  If he saves it to his PC then it's on his hard drive.  If he emails it to others it's on lot's of hard drives.

All the Pimps get a copy as well as the computer Deepak uses at the Cyber Cafe.

I want one of those little camera phones.  Carnut has one.  He says the instruction booklet is half an inch think.     I know what that means, more technology I am too old and stupid to figure out how to use.
But I have had a couple of people come to see puppies and transmit little videos of them back to somebody at home for approval or not.



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amen!! have a camera phone that takes video too...my 6 year old knows how to use it...I don't...want to know how bad I am...was on the phone fpr 20 minutes on hold with cingular because my phone powered off and I could not get it on. They sent me a new one...could not get the new one to power on!! Called again thinking maybe the sim card?! sounded good to me...went bad...6 year old came over and turned it right on!! apparently I was pushing the wrong "on button" probably nothing wrong with the 1st one!! hahahahaha

[klaasend]

Yes BUT, if it was transmitted to Deepak's email address via Joran's cellphone, Deepak would then download it to his PC or may have even forwarded it on to others.

Klaas...do you really think that is the case? Never looked at that phone call like this before...does not make sense if he was asking for help he would talk for 8 minutes...probably more like a quick get over here now!! need help!

ok, 8 MINUTE ELECTRONIC contact between Joran & Deepak.  Joran's cell phone to Deepak's computer?  What time did this occur?  Does someone have to be present to receive the transfer? WHere does this place Joran, Deepak, Satish and Freddy?

Trying to find the transcript where it was reported.  It may have been in one of Red's front page posts.

Nobody would have to be at the PC or Cellphone to receive it.  To the PC it would be via email and could be received and opened later like any other email.  Same with a cellphone, it would be a message waiting.

[ldstlou]

Yes BUT, if it was transmitted to Deepak's email address via Joran's cellphone, Deepak would then download it to his PC or may have even forwarded it on to others.

Klaas...do you really think that is the case? Never looked at that phone call like this before...does not make sense if he was asking for help he would talk for 8 minutes...probably more like a quick get over here now!! need help!

ok, 8 MINUTE ELECTRONIC contact between Joran & Deepak.  Joran's cell phone to Deepak's computer?  What time did this occur?  Does someone have to be present to receive the transfer? WHere does this place Joran, Deepak, Satish and Freddy?

was it an 8 minute phone call? or 8 minute transmission of some kind...gotta look that up

[Anna]

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Greta also spoke about the eight minute or rather eight and a half minutes transmission.  But I do not know when she said it, the date of the show.

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[ldstlou]

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Greta also spoke about the eight minute or rather eight and a half minutes transmission.  But I do not know when she said it, the date of the show.

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I know...remember SOMEONE saying it was out of the ordinary..never had that long of a conversation before between the two

[Anna]

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We don't have access to the phone records to know what kind of a transmission it was just that there was contact by cell phone from Joran to Deepak.  Whether or not it was to his cell phone or his computer would have to come from the phone records which we do not have and I wonder if anybody bothered to get them while they were available.

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[Angiex911dsptchr]

(test) Sorry.. I will be amazed if I did this correctly...

[ldstlou]

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We don't have access to the phone records to know what kind of a transmission it was just that there was contact by cell phone from Joran to Deepak.  Whether or not it was to his cell phone or his computer would have to come from the phone records which we do not have and I wonder if anybody bothered to get them while they were available.

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wow you guys...this is just HUGE!! to me!! And if it is true..and the ALE took his computer...then those a--holes know EXACTLY what happened!!

[klaasend]

Beth had a meeting with KJ and there are notes from her July 11th meeting. There were text messages. There was a message at 3:30 am. Greta asked what was the content of the text message and Joran sent a text message to his computer saying thanks I’m home. So we don’t really know how he got home except there was a message from Joran to Deepak saying he got home. KJ told Beth that there was a phone call between Joran and Deepak and she said that was the longest phone call ever recorded from those two boys cell phones and they were never able to find out what time that phone call took place or any of their conversations were disclosed and they knew it was significant because this has never taken place before and she doesn’t know what 18 year old, 17 year old or 22 year old boy are going to have and 18 (actually 8 1/2 minute) minute cell phone call on the very night they took Natalee.

She feels as if when she goes through her journal she sees all the alibis that were destroyed by looking at her looking through it.

http://tinyurl.com/feu4q

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Im amazed... lol

[klaasend]

Im amazed... lol

I'm very proud of you Angie!!  

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Im amazed... lol

I'm very proud of you Angie!!  

  ROFL... I am proud of me too.. !!!    TY Klaasend~!!  I paid attention I guess when I was lurking around to your directions!!  

[spooky112483]

well i was waiting on the thread change but oh well
hello everyone
my thoughts? Freddy would know how valuable a video of a rape/death would be.
Now i do NOT think that was the intention that night but after it happened, Freddy knew what he had on his hands. Freddy is no pro by any means but he does have connections.
And just like if Natalee had been sold into sex slavery she would actually be even more valuable now so would the video of her rape/death be even more valuable and sought after by the monsters of this world.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

well i was waiting on the thread change but oh well
hello everyone
my thoughts? Freddy would know how valuable a video of a rape/death would be.
Now i do NOT think that was the intention that night but after it happened, Freddy knew what he had on his hands. Freddy is no pro by any means but he does have connections.
And just like if Natalee had been sold into sex slavery she would actually be even more valuable now so would the video of her rape/death be even more valuable and sought after by the monsters of this world.

  Hi Spooky Gal...