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Tracygirl
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #40 on:
May 29, 2009, 01:15:05 PM »
Lone you are local right? Did you by chance go to the memorial? Words do not fully express the feeling surrounding that area. it was so quiet, no one was talking but everyone was there together.
I have seen Sandra in person before. I had not written about it I don't think. My work had taken me to the mobile home park a time or two. I was struck at the sense of community there and by the way the kids always played together . The older kids watched the younger ones. Adults were out talking...I recall seeing Sandra running around with a few other children. She stood out because she was absolutely beautiful and full of life. she was the type that are just noticed I suppose, a type it seemed people were drawn to. Even in death she had that ability to draw people to her. I along with many others will never forget her.
BTW, if you all would like me to go place flowers or a stuffed monkey, I will. I am planning on going there sometime soon.
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #41 on:
May 29, 2009, 02:32:10 PM »
Quote from: Tracygirl on May 29, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
Lone you are local right? Did you by chance go to the memorial? Words do not fully express the feeling surrounding that area. it was so quiet, no one was talking but everyone was there together.
I have seen Sandra in person before. I had not written about it I don't think. My work had taken me to the mobile home park a time or two. I was struck at the sense of community there and by the way the kids always played together . The older kids watched the younger ones. Adults were out talking...I recall seeing Sandra running around with a few other children. She stood out because she was absolutely beautiful and full of life. she was the type that are just noticed I suppose, a type it seemed people were drawn to. Even in death she had that ability to draw people to her. I along with many others will never forget her.
BTW, if you all would like me to go place flowers or a stuffed monkey, I will. I am planning on going there sometime soon.
WOW!!!!
What a WONDERFUL and touching post
Tracy
!!!!!!
No, I am not in Tracy and did not attend her Memorial. I am about 1-2 hours away. But she captured something inside my heart and I can't let go! Perhaps it was her incredible embodiment of what a childhood SHOULD be...skipping happily worry-free. Innocent. Pure.
Or
Maybe it's because someone tried to abduct me, too when I was 8...
But that was a stranger so I knew to RUN...
How could Sandra ever in her wildest imagination even know an adult could be capable of such heinous cruelty??? She never stood a chance.
These cases....Caylee, Adji, Haleigh, Sandra....and many more!
Have stirred something SO deep inside of me this past year. I wish I were an Angel and I could save them all....
But I am mortal.
Still, I have a burning desire for JUSTICE...
Just like you Monkeys!
This is what Scared Monkeys is
ALL
about...
JUSTICE!!!!
I deeply respect you Monkeys and ALL you do for love and the commitment to
JUSTICE
!!!!
LM
PS I would love it if you left a monkey for us!!!
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #42 on:
May 29, 2009, 02:37:14 PM »
Quote from: MunkeyMunk on May 29, 2009, 12:01:55 PM
Beautiful, Lone thank you
monkey huggggs!!
MONKEY HUGS BACK!!!!
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #43 on:
May 29, 2009, 03:00:12 PM »
Ok
Blink
...
In my research for this vine, I have reached a Phillipines-Lawless Connection. I wonder if I should post it here or not. Do you know of this connection? There is a lot of Sex Slave traffic thru there, right?
Hmmmm...
I'll post it here and you can move it if you need to.
So, Melissa is the eldest of 3.
She has 2 younger brother Caleb and Adam.
Caleb has a BEBO (similiar to MySpace) account and located within it are MANY photos he has posted.
In 1 album he titled "EXODUS"...
He is in the Philippines I believe.
Now, curiously Gary the Poet Lawless goes there, too!
So here are some links and photos...
Caleb Lawless
Snipped:
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=408459217
hi everyone since I only have one friend hello there.
Gender
Male
Profile Views
78 times
Hometown Country
Orange county United States
Caleb Lawless's URL
http://www.bebo.com/cpoloha
Music
all kinds, just not country
Films
dazed and confused, noahs arc, north shore, without a paddle, and much much more
Sports
water polo, swimming, surfing
Scared Of
spiders, sharks
Happiest When
I have food and someone interesting to talk to you
Photos from
EXODUS & PHILOS:
(the curly haired blonde is Melissa's brother)
Gary The Poet Lawless
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Blink34
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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May 29, 2009, 03:18:40 PM »
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.
Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread? Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #45 on:
May 29, 2009, 03:25:30 PM »
Quote from: Blink34 on May 29, 2009, 03:18:40 PM
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.
Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread? Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B
I say...
DO IT!!!!!
Let's get these talented Monkeys rollin'
Lm
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #46 on:
May 29, 2009, 03:33:04 PM »
Here's a start....
Jack Lawless
Person ID
5904936 Sex
MALE Race
WHITE Height
508
Weight
160 Hair Color
Brown Eye Color
BLUE Ethnic
UNKNOWN - CCH
Name ID
14190116 Name
LAWLESS,JACK SIDNEY
Alias Name:
Name ID
14190112 Alias Name
BUBBA,NICKNAME
Name ID
14190113 Alias Name
LAWLESS,BUBBA
Name ID
14190114 Alias Name
LAWLESS,JACK
Name ID
14190115 Alias Name
LAWLESS,JACK S
Birthdate(s)
Date of Birth ID
6302387 Person ID
5904936 Date of Birth Type
B Date of Birth
1949-09-14 00:00:00.000
Individual Data
Individual ID
5904936 DPS Number
01416813
Individual ID
5904936 DPS No.
01416813 Risk
none found SSZ Code
none found
SWD Code
Registration Event
Event ID
19645417 Event
Change of Status Event Date
2009-02-25 00:00:00.000 ORI Text
TXHPD0000
Address Event
Address Event ID
9056745 PDV Code
Texas Resident
Address
Address ID
16199913 Street/P.O. Box Number
1008 Street Name
MCGOWEN ST Apartment No.
5
City
HOUSTON Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas ZIP Code
77002
County Code
HARRIS
Education Event
Education Event ID
71790 PDV Code
None Education ID
Education
none found
License Event
License Event ID
51983 PDV Code
None License ID
License
none found
Occupation Event
Occupation Event ID
14043744 PDV Code
Unemployed Occupation ID
Occupation
none found
Offense
Offense ID
2444853 Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
36990013
Version No.
1 Out of State Code
TX Out of State Offense
General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
N OST Code
PAR CPR Code
7Y CDD Date
1999-02-24 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
17 SOV Code
F
Offense Detail
Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
36990013 Version No.
1
Offense Description
INDECENCY W/A CHILD EXPOSES TXC Code
36990013 Status Code
A Citation
21.11 (a)(2)
Offense ID
2444854 Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
36990013
Version No.
1 Out of State Code
TX Out of State Offense
General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
N OST Code
PAR CPR Code
97Y CDD Date
1999-02-24 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
17 SOV Code
F
Offense Detail
Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
36990013 Version No.
1
Offense Description
INDECENCY W/A CHILD EXPOSES
TXC Code
36990013 Status Code
A Citation
21.11 (a)(2)
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #47 on:
May 29, 2009, 03:34:49 PM »
Sorry that was snipped from:
http://search.criminalcheck.com/PDdetails.php?db=TXSOR_ALIAS_NAME&rec=61651&ed=177&dlnumber=CC&dlstate=CC&id=CC
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #48 on:
May 29, 2009, 03:43:12 PM »
Next up we got...
Robert
L
ee Lawless (got the infamous middle name initial
L
)
Person ID
10088955 Sex
MALE Race
WHITE Height
604
Weight
200 Hair Color
Gray or Partially Gray Eye Color
HAZEL Ethnic
NON-HISPANIC
Name
Name ID
23939268 Name
LAWLESS,ROBERT LEE
Alias Names
none found
Birthdate(s)
Date of Birth ID
9854054 Person ID
10088955 Date of Birth Type
B Date of Birth
1944-12-21 00:00:00.000
Individual Data
Individual ID
11103359 DPS Number
04891532
Individual Sex Offender Registration
Individual ID
11103359 DPS No.
04891532 Risk
none found SSZ Code
none found
SWD Code
none found ERT Code
none found ERD Date
VRP Code
none found
Registration Event
Event ID
19642482 Event
Change of Status Event Date
2008-10-31 00:00:00.000 ORI Text
txspd0000
Address Event
Address Event ID
9053753 PDV Code
Incarcerated
Address
Address ID
16198672 Street/P.O. Box Number
Street Name
Apartment No.
City
Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas ZIP Code
County Code
Education
none found
License Event
License Event ID
49046 PDV Code
None License ID
License
none found
Occupation Event
Occupation Event ID
14040778 PDV Code
Unemployed Occupation ID
Occupation
none found
Offense
Offense ID
2479366 Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
37040001
Version No.
1 Out of State Code
TX Out of State Offense
General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
Y OST Code
UNK CPR Code
5Y CDD Date
1993-07-22 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
0 SOV Code
U
Offense Detail
Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
37040001 Version No.
1
Offense Description
POSS OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
TXC Code
37040001 Status Code
A Citation
43.26 (a)
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Blink34
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #49 on:
May 29, 2009, 03:56:31 PM »
Quote from: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:43:12 PM
Next up we got...
Robert
L
ee Lawless (got the infamous middle name initial
L
)
Person ID
10088955 Sex
MALE Race
WHITE Height
604
Weight
200 Hair Color
Gray or Partially Gray Eye Color
HAZEL Ethnic
NON-HISPANIC
Name
Name ID
23939268 Name
LAWLESS,ROBERT LEE
Alias Names
none found
Birthdate(s)
Date of Birth ID
9854054 Person ID
10088955 Date of Birth Type
B Date of Birth
1944-12-21 00:00:00.000
Individual Data
Individual ID
11103359 DPS Number
04891532
Individual Sex Offender Registration
Individual ID
11103359 DPS No.
04891532 Risk
none found SSZ Code
none found
SWD Code
none found ERT Code
none found ERD Date
VRP Code
none found
Registration Event
Event ID
19642482 Event
Change of Status Event Date
2008-10-31 00:00:00.000 ORI Text
txspd0000
Address Event
Address Event ID
9053753 PDV Code
Incarcerated
Address
Address ID
16198672 Street/P.O. Box Number
Street Name
Apartment No.
City
Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas ZIP Code
County Code
Education
none found
License Event
License Event ID
49046 PDV Code
None License ID
License
none found
Occupation Event
Occupation Event ID
14040778 PDV Code
Unemployed Occupation ID
Occupation
none found
Offense
Offense ID
2479366 Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
37040001
Version No.
1 Out of State Code
TX Out of State Offense
General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
Y OST Code
UNK CPR Code
5Y CDD Date
1993-07-22 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
0 SOV Code
U
Offense Detail
Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
37040001 Version No.
1
Offense Description
POSS OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
TXC Code
37040001 Status Code
A Citation
43.26 (a)
Lone, could I call on you start the Texas/Ok/KS thread?
Im cracking up right now, your like on "automatics', lol. Awesome.
I fear if we dont keep the geography intact we will miss someone
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #50 on:
May 29, 2009, 03:59:30 PM »
Robert Lawless
work
5615 Armour Dr
Snipped:
http://www.whitepages.com/16176/track/10215/search/Replay?search_id=20291301915171133025&lower=1&more_info=1
Robert L Lawless
Houston, TX 77020-8004
(713) 671-****
Type: unavailable
Provider: unavailable
Location: unavailable
Job title:
Plant Manager
Company:
The Lawless Group
Robert L Lawless
home
3603 Windy Ridge Ct
San Antonio, TX 78259-2612
(210) 481-****
Household:
Rodney L Lawless, Kimberly Lawless
Snipped:
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&
Robert Lee Lawless
View Details
64
Austin, TX
San Antonio, TX
Azle, TX
Fort Worth, TX
Roswell, GA
intelius.com
Relatives:
Phalba Lawless
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #51 on:
May 29, 2009, 04:03:06 PM »
Quote
Lone, could I call on you start the Texas/Ok/KS thread?
Im cracking up right now, your like on "automatics', lol. Awesome.
I fear if we dont keep the geography intact we will miss someone
I'm craaaazy fingers!
Yea, sure thing!
I will post the stuff over on that vine...hee hee
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #52 on:
May 29, 2009, 04:06:25 PM »
Quote from: Blink34 on May 29, 2009, 03:18:40 PM
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.
Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread? Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B
Re-posting from the CA/OR Connection...
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #53 on:
May 29, 2009, 04:07:47 PM »
Quote from: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: Blink34 on May 29, 2009, 03:18:40 PM
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.
Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread? Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B
I say...
DO IT!!!!!
Let's get these talented Monkeys rollin'
Lm
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #54 on:
May 29, 2009, 04:19:16 PM »
Be back soon Monkeys...
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Sister
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #55 on:
May 30, 2009, 10:01:28 AM »
On Blink's site at comment #419 you will find photo of Robert, Richard and CLL, at comment #414 you will see a photo of a Lane Lawless, and at comment #340 you will see a mention of Landon Lawless.
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Blink34
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #56 on:
May 30, 2009, 10:22:48 AM »
Quote from: Sister on May 30, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
On Blink's site at comment #419 you will find photo of Robert, Richard and CLL, at comment #414 you will see a photo of a Lane Lawless, and at comment #340 you will see a mention of Landon Lawless.
Sister - Can you be so kind as to refresh my memory on the date of the marriage of Gary D Lawless and Marilyn Short Tieken Lawless Gomes? I recall they divorced a month later. I am trying to figure out on the Texas/Ok/KS if the Gary D Lawless, deceased 1975 near DeBerry, is our guy. His Mom is a Betty (not sure) Lawless. He seems to potentially have some sort of infirmery from 1968- till his death in 1975.
B
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #57 on:
May 30, 2009, 05:22:17 PM »
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
Lm
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #58 on:
May 30, 2009, 07:28:15 PM »
Quote from: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 05:22:17 PM
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
Lm
Still searching for the above...
But this interesting
Snipped:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm
Lawless, Baby Girl,
b. (6/23/1952), d. 6/23/1952, Aged 0 yrs 0 mos 0 days, mortuary marker, Plot S/15/L6-10, [JB]
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lonemonkey
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Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
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Reply #59 on:
May 30, 2009, 07:38:01 PM »
Quote from: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 05:22:17 PM
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
Lm
Still searching for the above...
But this interesting
Snipped:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm
Lawless, Baby Girl,
b. (6/23/1952), d. 6/23/1952, Aged 0 yrs 0 mos 0 days, mortuary marker, Plot S/15/L6-10, [JB]
I checked ALL public listings for cemeteries (including Family Cemeteries) in Grants Pass, Oregon.
NONE of them seem to be the one that shows up across the street from:
501 Lawless Lane
Grant Pass, Oregon
Lawless Roofing/Donald Lawless w/ connections to Pastor Lawless as "President"
.
This baby girl, is in fact the
only
Lawless listed as buried in Grants Pass, that I could find.
So watcha think about that Monkeys???
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===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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