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« Reply #220 on: June 06, 2009, 10:52:50 PM »

ok this is my post from the duggan king lawless thread

this is gary d lawless born 1932 in wichita kansas, the one with gary w lawless etc. 

so I need to get some time and see if these bacons are connected to cheryl ann bacon/nee byrd. 
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hmmm this is interesting. at the gary d lawless apache address is:(wichita kansas)
remember cheryl bacon with the oregon grants pass lawless roofing family

so we will have to see if these are connected to cheryl bacon of the lawless roofing line.  gee

Address:   821 APACHE DR
WICHITA, KS 67207-2119

WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, SUSAN L (Age 52)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57)
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
 

 WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, ROBERT P (Age 57)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, ROBERT
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57) 
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« Reply #221 on: June 06, 2009, 10:54:31 PM »

ok this is my post from the duggan king lawless thread

this is gary d lawless born 1932 in wichita kansas, the one with gary w lawless etc. 

so I need to get some time and see if these bacons are connected to cheryl ann bacon/nee byrd. 
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hmmm this is interesting. at the gary d lawless apache address is:(wichita kansas)
remember cheryl bacon with the oregon grants pass lawless roofing family

so we will have to see if these are connected to cheryl bacon of the lawless roofing line.  gee

Address:   821 APACHE DR
WICHITA, KS 67207-2119

WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, SUSAN L (Age 52)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57)
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
 

 WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, ROBERT P (Age 57)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, ROBERT
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57) 



I am quoting this and adding this other info all in the same post so it is easy to compare

Name: Cheryl A Bacon
Birth Date: Jul 1960
Address: 415 Mina Ln, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526-0901 (1993)
[1671 Webster Rd, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526-0801 (1982)]


415 MINA GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 GEORGE'S ROGUE VALLEY INSULATION COMPANY
 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, CHERYL ANN (Age 48)
BACON, FREDDIE JOE (Age 79)
BACON, RENA RAE (Age 73)
BACON, BECKY
BACON, TYLER C

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DANKO, GEORGE IMRE (Age 43)
WRIGHT, ESTALEEN WYNN (Age 80)
MOUNCE, NAOMI CHLOE (Age 32)
DANIELS, VIVIAN NADINE (Age 80)
IVY, BONNIE LUCILLE (Age 78)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, RICHARD GEORGE (Age 52)
BACON, TYLER C




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

CHILDERS, JOE DALE (Age 61)
CHILDERS, MISTY
CHILDERS, BOBBY DALE (Age 38)
CHILDERS, TERESA EARLENE (Age 58)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

1671 WEBSTER GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives   


Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 GEORGE'S ROGUE VALLEY INSULATION COMPANY
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, CHERYL ANN (Age 48)
BACON, FREDDIE JOE (Age 79)
BACON, RENA RAE (Age 73)
BACON, BECKY
BACON, TYLER C

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DANKO, GEORGE IMRE (Age 43)
WRIGHT, ESTALEEN WYNN (Age 80)
MOUNCE, NAOMI CHLOE (Age 32)
DANIELS, VIVIAN NADINE (Age 80)
IVY, BONNIE LUCILLE (Age 78)
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, RICHARD GEORGE (Age 52)
BACON, TYLER C 



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« Reply #222 on: June 06, 2009, 11:27:48 PM »

here is another bacon name.  this one is at an address where anna leona lawless nee boyles was living in corning cali tehema county.  she is born 1901 in  oklahoma, got ss # in kansas, lived in corning, died in monterey.  she might be gary d lawless missing mother.  listed at her address in corning is this person with middle name BACON

Name: Anne L Lawless
Address: 651 Toomes #20, Corning, California 96021-0601 (1981)
[1550 Kaufman St, Corning, California 96021-0701 (1980)]

hmmm no lawless listed there on toomes, but there is:
TURNIER, LAURA BACON (Age 70)
remember cheryl ann bacon on the lawless roofing in oregon line
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« Reply #223 on: June 07, 2009, 12:04:09 AM »

Hi Sister
I mentioned this in another thread...
I am wondering if you are thinking of the Cheryl listed as an Associate/Roommate of CLL at the MBP...
Her name is Cheryl with a different surname...something like Chammisa.
Anyway, I wonder if they are the same person?!
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« Reply #224 on: June 07, 2009, 12:07:37 AM »

Thanks for looking.  I need to take a few days away from this.  Sometimes stepping back is good.  I know we're close, but it is beginning to be difficult when I know the info is in here and I just can't find it.
Thanks everyone, blessings.
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« Reply #225 on: June 25, 2009, 10:57:54 PM »

Through research I keep seeing a Fred Silva who maybe has a sister Beverly Lawless from Grants pass Oregon..Has anyone else seen this? I am not going to cite the site because it is an obit and you have to pay...
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« Reply #226 on: June 25, 2009, 11:47:02 PM »

Through research I keep seeing a Fred Silva who maybe has a sister Beverly Lawless from Grants pass Oregon..Has anyone else seen this? I am not going to cite the site because it is an obit and you have to pay...

I have a beverly jean lawless 66 in grants pass with harold lawless
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« Reply #227 on: June 25, 2009, 11:58:39 PM »

Beveryly Jean Lawless in grants pass is beverly Jean Silva married Harold Michael lawless of the oregan lawless line.

she was born nov 22 1942 in Sonoma Cali.  Her mother's nee name is Domenici
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« Reply #228 on: June 26, 2009, 12:05:35 AM »

 
Name: Paul Clifford Silva
Social Security #: xxxxxx
Sex: MALE 
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1912
Birthplace: California 
Death Date: 3 Sep 1996
Death Place: Sonoma 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 



Name:  Paul Clifford Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  23 Oct 1912 - California
Death:  3 Sep 1996 - Sonoma

Name: Silva
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1912
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 
Birth County: Sonoma 



Name:  Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  23 Oct 1912 - Sonoma, California
 
Name: John J Silva
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1914
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 
Birth County: Sonoma 

 

Name:  John J Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  4 Sep 1914 - Sonoma, California
 
 Name: Fredrick A Silva
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1917
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 
Birth County: Sonoma 



Name:  Fredrick A Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  18 Jun 1917 - Sonoma, California

 
 
Name:  Vernon G Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  28 Oct 1921 - Sonoma, California

 
 
Name:  Beverly Jean Silva married oregon lawless harold michael lawless
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  22 Nov 1942 - Sonoma, California



 
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« Reply #229 on: June 26, 2009, 12:22:26 AM »

cheryl ann bacon with the oregon lawless line is cheryl ann byrd

Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Richard G Bacon
Name: Richard G Bacon
Gender: Male 
Residence State: Oregon 
Spouse: Cheryl A Byrd
Spouse residence state: Oregon 
Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1980
Marriage City: Reno 
Officiant type: Religious celebrant 
Recorded Date: 21 Oct 1980
Recorded city: Reno 
Book: 725- 
Page: 113 2 
Instrument number: 7853 
 
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« Reply #230 on: June 26, 2009, 12:23:38 AM »

another one of them married a sanchez, we have someone else somewhere with sanchez, all these dairy people


up in the oregon lawlessline we have joes bros inc, what is that, did we figure that out before?  was that a dairy?
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« Reply #231 on: June 26, 2009, 12:53:12 AM »

Beveryly Jean Lawless in grants pass is beverly Jean Silva married Harold Michael lawless of the oregan lawless line.

she was born nov 22 1942 in Sonoma Cali.  Her mother's nee name is Domenici

Ok thank you DD...All I kept seeing was this...LOL


FRED SILVA
$2.95 - Santa Rosa Press Democrat - NewsBank - Feb 26, 1997
Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened ... Vern Silva of Prescott Valley, Ariz.; sister, Beverly Lawless of Grants Pass, Ore.; ...
All 2 related - Related web pages


And then when I clicked the link I would get this...without Beverly Lawless name..LOL

FRED SILVA
Article 1 of 1 found (1)
Article ID: 9702260110
Published on February 26, 1997

Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened knives for his customers, died Feb. 14 at a Santa Rosa hospital of congestive heart failure. He was 79.

Silva began working at cleanup and meat cutting as a 12-year-old at the shop of his father, John Silva, on Wilson Street in Santa Rosa.

His wife, Ruth Silva of Santa Rosa, said he operated Silva's Quality Meats as one of the first businesses in the new Montgomery Village Shopping Center in the 1950s. He

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« Reply #232 on: June 26, 2009, 01:10:58 AM »

Beveryly Jean Lawless in grants pass is beverly Jean Silva married Harold Michael lawless of the oregan lawless line.

she was born nov 22 1942 in Sonoma Cali.  Her mother's nee name is Domenici

Ok thank you DD...All I kept seeing was this...LOL


FRED SILVA
$2.95 - Santa Rosa Press Democrat - NewsBank - Feb 26, 1997
Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened ... Vern Silva of Prescott Valley, Ariz.; sister, Beverly Lawless of Grants Pass, Ore.; ...
All 2 related - Related web pages


And then when I clicked the link I would get this...without Beverly Lawless name..LOL

FRED SILVA
Article 1 of 1 found (1)
Article ID: 9702260110
Published on February 26, 1997

Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened knives for his customers, died Feb. 14 at a Santa Rosa hospital of congestive heart failure. He was 79.

Silva began working at cleanup and meat cutting as a 12-year-old at the shop of his father, John Silva, on Wilson Street in Santa Rosa.

His wife, Ruth Silva of Santa Rosa, said he operated Silva's Quality Meats as one of the first businesses in the new Montgomery Village Shopping Center in the 1950s. He

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hmmmm  so ruth must be domenici?   I wonder if all the births a few posts back with the mother domenici are all siblings.  so they are all in sonoma county, and he is in the hospital in santa rosa, this is close to napa.  now how does harold michael lawless of the oregon lawless line meet beverly jean silva?  and take a look at that first child who is a silva with mother demenici in sonoma...paul clifford, the two names of CLL and his brother.  this is getting interesting. 

lets keep digginng.
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« Reply #233 on: June 26, 2009, 01:18:06 AM »

I love digging DD, can you tell??..lol..I like to find the strange unique stuff   I am on it when I have time. My college classes are killin me!!!
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« Reply #234 on: June 26, 2009, 01:35:34 AM »

This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??
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« Reply #235 on: June 26, 2009, 01:37:09 AM »

This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??

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« Reply #236 on: June 26, 2009, 01:46:05 AM »

This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??

the only possible connection we have with silva in tracy so far is that ann silva is at the bacchetti dairy, and almer gomes was friends with bacchetti, and almers son or was it nephew etc, lives across the street from cll and melissa in the MHP. 


now we have beverly jean silva married to harold michael lawless of the oregon lawless line who has the LAWLESS ROOFING and the cattle company.  harold is part of the thomas mat lawless line with grace mitchell, everett lawless and donald thomas lawless all up in grants pass oregon and connected to redding califor.
________________________
Social Security Death Index
about Paul C. Silva
Name: Paul C. Silva
SSN: 555-10-7191 
Last Residence: 94559  Napa, Napa, California, United States of America
Born: 23 Oct 1912
Died: 3 Sep 1996
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
 
and here is paul clifford silva who has the domenici mother, same as beverly jean silva/lawless has, ad he dies in napa. 

napa is where marylin tieken is born marries gary d lawless ad where one of the ids or two of the kids are born. 


so how did haralod michael lawless of the grants pass or line meet beveryly jean silva in napa?

could gary d lawelss father of timothy etc be part of the harold lawless oregon line?
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« Reply #237 on: June 26, 2009, 01:55:27 AM »

This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??

the only possible connection we have with silva in tracy so far is that ann silva is at the bacchetti dairy, and almer gomes was friends with bacchetti, and almers son or was it nephew etc, lives across the street from cll and melissa in the MHP. 


now we have beverly jean silva married to harold michael lawless of the oregon lawless line who has the LAWLESS ROOFING and the cattle company.  harold is part of the thomas mat lawless line with grace mitchell, everett lawless and donald thomas lawless all up in grants pass oregon and connected to redding califor.
________________________
Social Security Death Index
about Paul C. Silva
Name: Paul C. Silva
SSN: 555-10-7191 
Last Residence: 94559  Napa, Napa, California, United States of America
Born: 23 Oct 1912
Died: 3 Sep 1996
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
 
and here is paul clifford silva who has the domenici mother, same as beverly jean silva/lawless has, ad he dies in napa. 

napa is where marylin tieken is born marries gary d lawless ad where one of the ids or two of the kids are born. 


so how did haralod michael lawless of the grants pass or line meet beveryly jean silva in napa?

could gary d lawelss father of timothy etc be part of the harold lawless oregon line?


Another funny DD, I get a kick outta this...when you say..."could so and so be part of so and so"..I think OMG here we go again, more research...LOL...but thank you for the confirmation, it helps me to know what it is I need to look for!!!  Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #238 on: June 26, 2009, 01:59:28 AM »

there is a gary steven lawless in the grants pass line (GP LINE)
but he is way too young, but it least they have a gary name.  I will keep looking
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« Reply #239 on: June 26, 2009, 02:02:55 AM »

there is a gary steven lawless in the grants pass line (GP LINE)
but he is way too young, but it least they have a gary name.  I will keep looking

So cute!! At least they have a Gary..lol
LOL..I know you are being serious DD, I am sorry...I think I have the giggles tonight..Thats a good thing tho, right??? an angelic monkey
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