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« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2009, 12:48:40 PM »

Maybe I am looking at the wrong place for burial listings?
it says it has been updated.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/Etx/Panola/cemetery/mtzion.htm
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« Reply #81 on: May 31, 2009, 01:14:25 PM »

This stuff is confusing me...
Why doesn't it list her son
Gary Dee Lawless?
Or I don't see here listed as buried at the cemetary
only as Gary Dee lawless' mother



Or maybe I am tired..lol


Panola Watchman
Sunday. November 8. 1998

Obituaries


Betty Sue lawless

Funeral services for Betty Sue
Lawless. 69. of Carthage, were held
Thursday at Mt. Zion United
Methodist Church. The Rev. Jerry
Bumaman officiated. Burial fol-
lowed in Panola Mt. Zion Ceme-
tery near
DeBerry under the direc-
tion of Don Lipsey Funeral Home.
She died Tuesday at Good Shep-
herd Medical Center in Longview.
Bom Dec. 2. 1928 in Panola
County, she was the daughter ol
Jackson C. and Betty Elizabeth
Harrison Shadowens. She was mar-
ried to Dee H. Lawless who pre-
ceded her in death on Jan. 2. 1980
■ A life time resident of Panola
County, she worked at the Panola
County Courthouse for five y'car•.
in the county clerk's office. She
was a member of*First Baptist
Church of Carthage and the Ladies
crUucha Sunday school class.
Survivors, include her son and
daughter-in-law, Steve and Pam.--->Now we know her unamed childs name
Lawless, of Carthage; brother. Jack.
Shadowens. of DeBerry;. sister,
Elsie Solomon, of Richardson:'
grandchildren,' Amber. Morgan.
'Lance; Bruce and Ashley; and
gnr.n-grandchird. Stephen. Patrick
Lawless.
Pallbearers, were Kenneth Shad-
owens. Mike Shadowens. Brett St.
Clair. Clifton While and Mark.
Shadowens

hmmm something weird there.  whoever listed the obit did not want to list gary dee lawless as a son.  why not? maybe the hospital he was in was a mental institution?  ?  well at least we have more names to add to the genealogy, I will add them in today and see if we can find more conected to them.
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« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2009, 01:19:09 PM »

Maybe I am looking at the wrong place for burial listings?
it says it has been updated.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/Etx/Panola/cemetery/mtzion.htm


who are you trying to find there?  his mother?  betty sue?  she is listed as betty sue lawless in the cemetery records, she's on the cemtery list which was posted and highlighted in red you will see her as "mother"

or are you looking for someone else? 
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« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2009, 01:24:07 PM »

I also pulled all the genealogy reports from this thread and copied them over to the GENEALOGY thread so they will all be there together and not get lost in this thread.  they are all on page 3 and titled De Berry Texas . 

if you are looking for someone in particular over there, just go to the page, click on your edit button on your toolbar, then click find, type in what you are looking for, and it will go exactly to that person on the page. 

there is a total of 3 pages of genealogy over there, covering all the lines in reports, showing exactly how everyone is related, who they marry, who are parents, all the descendents etc, so if you want any info on any of the lines, you just go over there and use the edit/find commands on the 3 pages and you will find them.  then you don't have to be scrolling through all these 100's of pages of posts to find someone.

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« Reply #84 on: May 31, 2009, 01:40:59 PM »

we have another marriage for mother betty sue shadowens

Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002
about Betty S Shadowens
Name: Betty S Shadowens
Gender: Female 
Marriage Date: 13 Jan 1970
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1929 
Age: 41 
 
Spouse: McLlwayn Strickland
Spouse Gender: Male 
Spouse Est Birth Year: abt 1931 
Spouse Age: 39 
 
Marriage County: Bowie 
Marriage State: Texas 
 
Source: Texas Marriage Index, 1966-2002 
 
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« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2009, 01:44:02 PM »

and another one hmmm
but she died a lawless?  she must have taken that name back after divorces?
not sure yet what is going on here.

Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002
about Betty S Shadowens
Name: Betty S Shadowens
Gender: Female 
Marriage Date: 23 Mar 1973
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1929 
Age: 44 
 
Spouse: Robert P Damas
Spouse Gender: Male 
Spouse Est Birth Year: abt 1939 
Spouse Age: 34 
 
Marriage County: Gregg 
Marriage State: Texas 
 
Source: Texas Marriage Index, 1966-2002 
 
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« Reply #86 on: May 31, 2009, 01:46:23 PM »

here is her divorce from dee h lawless, father of gary dee lawless and steve lawless

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002
about Dee H Lawless
Name: Dee H Lawless
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1926 
Age: 43 
Spouse's name: Betty S [Lawless]
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: abt 1929 
Spouse's Age: 40 
Divorce Date: 4 Apr 1969
Marriage Date: 19 Apr 1947
Number of Children: 2 
County: Panola 
 
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« Reply #87 on: May 31, 2009, 02:07:52 PM »

1860 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Lawless
Name: Joseph Lawless
Age in 1860: 8/12 
Birth Year: abt 1859 
Birthplace: Georgia (Country) 
Home in 1860: Dawsonville, Dawson, Georgia
Gender: Male 
Post Office: Dawsonville
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Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Lawless 34 
Hmos Lawless 10 
James Lawless 9 
Williams Lawless 4 
Joseph Lawless 8/12   b abt 1859

but the father / husband of margaret died 1856 ? hmmm something is not right here
 
 


There is a Joseph H. Lawless (born abt 1860) who is the son of Cinthia (Zenia) J. nee Keaton, who was married to Francis Marion Lawless, son of Thomas Byrd Lawless who was married to Zelphe Zina Keaton.  Also, Doyle name shows up as the maiden name of Ronald Sutton Lawless' mother , he was married to Elaine C. Bevilacqua.
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« Reply #88 on: May 31, 2009, 02:11:33 PM »

Maybe I am looking at the wrong place for burial listings?
it says it has been updated.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/Etx/Panola/cemetery/mtzion.htm


who are you trying to find there?  his mother?  betty sue?  she is listed as betty sue lawless in the cemetery records, she's on the cemtery list which was posted and highlighted in red you will see her as "mother"

or are you looking for someone else? 

I was looking for Betty Sue lawless DD, I am just tired..lol
These people are confusing..lol..I am still researching in the midst
of doing my college studies, I guess that doesn't help either.
Nice to see you around an angelic monkey
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« Reply #89 on: May 31, 2009, 02:13:59 PM »

okay she divorces dee lawless april of 1969, and marries strickland jan of 1970.  then in 1973 she marries robert damas.  let me see if I can find a divorce from strickland and one from damas.  Maybe she went back to the lawless name before she died.  maybe someone in the damas family wrote up the obit and did not realize gary dee lawless, son, even existed? 
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« Reply #90 on: May 31, 2009, 02:15:41 PM »

Maybe I am looking at the wrong place for burial listings?
it says it has been updated.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/Etx/Panola/cemetery/mtzion.htm


who are you trying to find there?  his mother?  betty sue?  she is listed as betty sue lawless in the cemetery records, she's on the cemtery list which was posted and highlighted in red you will see her as "mother"

or are you looking for someone else? 

I was looking for Betty Sue lawless DD, I am just tired..lol
These people are confusing..lol..I am still researching in the midst
of doing my college studies, I guess that doesn't help either.
Nice to see you around an angelic monkey
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hey, don't feel alone about getting confused.  I get confused and I have a database program I am using to keep this sorted.  I can't even imagine what it is like to just come in and scroll these threads and try to figure this stuff out.  I tried that at first but just got way too big to keep all of this stuff in my head ugh.
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« Reply #91 on: May 31, 2009, 02:31:43 PM »

don't know who this is, but will probably hook up with the shadowens

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002
about Joan B [Shadowens]
Name: Joan B [Shadowens]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1932 
Age: 64 
Spouse's name: William R Shadowens
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: abt 1947 
Spouse's Age: 49 
Divorce Date: 1 Aug 1996
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1983
Number of Children: 0 
County: Shelby 
 
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« Reply #92 on: May 31, 2009, 02:33:25 PM »

Panola Watchman pdf Page 5
Obituary

Gary Dee Lawless



http://legacy.panola.edu/library/PanolaWatchman/1989/04-19-89.pdf


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« Reply #93 on: May 31, 2009, 02:34:30 PM »

omg I don't know how to save image from a pdf file..lol sorry
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« Reply #94 on: May 31, 2009, 02:34:41 PM »

here's another one out of de berry texas

Social Security Death Index
about Laquette J. Shadowens
Name: Laquette J. Shadowens
SSN: xxxxxxx
Last Residence: 75639  De Berry, Panola, Texas, United States of America
Born: 11 Oct 1930
Died: 4 May 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (Before 1951)
 
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« Reply #95 on: May 31, 2009, 02:44:17 PM »

Panola Watchman pdf Page 5
Obituary

Gary Dee Lawless



http://legacy.panola.edu/library/PanolaWatchman/1989/04-19-89.pdf


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it worked fine.  I had to transcribe it to get it into my program and make is searchable, so I will just post the transcription here as well, this way if someone searches it will pop up

 Gary Dee Lawless Obit
Funeral services for Mr. Gary Dee Lawless, of Carthage, will be
held Thursday morning, April 20, at 10:00 a.m. at the Hawthorn Fueral Home
Chapel. Rev. W. D. Leggett will officiate and burial will be at Panola -Mr. Zion
Cemetery.

Mr. Lawless, age 41, passed away in his home Tuesday morning, April 18.
Born in De Berry on December 30, 1947, he was the son of Dee H. and Betty
Sue Shadowens Lawless.  He was a boiler maker in construction work before
becoming disabled due to an auto accident.  Lawless had lived most of his
life in Panola County.

Survivors include his mother, Mrs. Betty Lawless of Carthage; two sons, Lance
of Overton and Bruce of Nacogdoches; and on brother, Steve Lawless of Carthage.
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« Reply #96 on: May 31, 2009, 02:46:39 PM »

here is another shadowens which will end up being related somewhere down the line
Social Security Death Index
about Carrol H. Shadowens
Name: Carrol H. Shadowens
SSN: xxxxx
Last Residence: 75704  Tyler, Smith, Texas, United States of America
Born: 28 Feb 1927
Died: 8 May 1999
State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (Before 1951)
 
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« Reply #97 on: May 31, 2009, 02:50:34 PM »

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002
about Vivian [Shadowens]
Name: Vivian [Shadowens]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1919 
Age: 54 
Spouse's name: Thomas M Shadowens
Spouse's Estimated Birth Year: abt 1912 
Spouse's Age: 61 
Divorce Date: 14 Sep 1973
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1948
Number of Children: 2 
County: Tarrant 
 
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« Reply #98 on: May 31, 2009, 02:51:20 PM »

Social Security Death Index
about Bobby F. Lawless
Name: Bobby F. Lawless
SSN: xxxxxx
Last Residence: 75760  Cushing, Nacogdoches, Texas, United States of America
Born: 23 Aug 1931
Died: 29 Aug 1999
State (Year) SSN issued: 
 
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« Reply #99 on: May 31, 2009, 02:59:56 PM »

Thank you DD 
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