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May 31, 2009, 03:00:59 PM »
Carrol Holder Shadowens
Birth: 28 Feb 1927
Death: 8 May 1999
Tyler, Smith, Texas, United States of America
married
Laquette Joyce Turner
Birth: 11 Oct 1930
Texas, USA
Death: 4 May 1998
DeBerry, Panola, Texas, USA
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parents of carroll shawdowens above are:
Cecil C Shadowens
Birth: 2 Oct 1904
Texas, USA
Death: Apr 1979
DeBerry, Panola, Texas, USA
and
Ada J Holder
Birth: 23 Jun 1908
Panola, Texas, USA
Death: 12 Jan 2004
Montgomery, Montgomery, Texas, USA
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parents of Cecil C shawdowens
Jackson C Shadowens (this is the father of betty sue shadowens lawless)
Birth: 19 Sep 1876
, Panola, Texas, USA
Death: 29 Sep 1950
and
Betty Harrison (this is the mother of betty sue shadowens/lawless)
Birth: 1886
Texas, USA
Death: 1932
Panola, Texas, USA
okay I should be able to hook them together now
, Panola, Texas, USA
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these are the siblings of betty sue shawdowens married dee H lawless(mother and father of gary dee lawless born 1947) this is the de berry texas line.
Jackson C Shadowens
1876 – 1950
married betty harrison
Betty sue shadowens
Gertrude Shadowens
1900 –
Cecil C Shadowens
1904 – 1979
Elsa Shadowens
1911 –
Elva Shadowens
1911 –
Herbert Shadowens
1913 –
Odessa S Shadowens
1914 – 1990
Emery C Shadowens
1915 –
Jack Shadowens
1924 –
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I'll make a report of all the shadowens sometime today. right now I have to get back to the grants pass, oregon/redding lawless line of the lawless roofing company
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DD, Do you think Gary Dee Lawless's obit
just excluded him from being the Gary we were
looking for??
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Dear Monkeys,
Sorry for my absence over the past week as I have had my hands full with other things. I have tried to keep up reading although I have not had much time to post and do research. Please do accept my apologies. I did find a link that I think ties in with this
http://genforum.genealogy.com/lawless/messages/963.html
In the above link you will find two Lawlesses married to two Suttons and if you go on down you will see a Pearl Ann Lawless who married an Arthur H Lawless. (Lawless marries Lawless) I hope this sheds some light as I know you have part of it already but this page seems to have quite a lot of info.
I will get back here as soon as I can to help with our ongoing research.
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Quote from: love4ever on May 31, 2009, 03:15:54 PM
DD, Do you think Gary Dee Lawless's obit
just excluded him from being the Gary we were
looking for??
ARGGGH!
Yes, sadly, DD is right, he is too young. WAA
However, we now have Gary Dee Lawless sons: Bruce Lawless and Lance Lawless. AND we know he was disabled due to a car accident.
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Quote from: love4ever on May 31, 2009, 03:15:54 PM
DD, Do you think Gary Dee Lawless's obit
just excluded him from being the Gary we were
looking for??
he's not the father of timothy, missing gary d lawless born 1933.
gary dee lawless de berry texas was born 1947.
I don't know who this lawless family is, but this is not the missing gary d lawless out of cali.
this lawless family(texas line) is coming out of georgia, then some seem to go up into tennessee before going on to texas. we don't know where timothy's father, missing gary d lawless born 1933 comes from, we can't find his parents or where he goes to, etc.
the shadowens I just ran into and will make a report on, betty sue shadowen/lawless mother of gary dee lawless, de berry texas; her family is coming out of virginia, tennessee, and one goes down to louisiana and then to texas. this is how they are getting to texas where she marries lawless.
so I still do not know where missing gary d lawless born 19333, father of timothy 10 cts sex charges sacramento cali is coming from. I am looking in fresno ad alamdea cali
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Quote from: 4getUnot on May 31, 2009, 03:55:24 PM
Dear Monkeys,
Sorry for my absence over the past week as I have had my hands full with other things. I have tried to keep up reading although I have not had much time to post and do research. Please do accept my apologies. I did find a link that I think ties in with this
http://genforum.genealogy.com/lawless/messages/963.html
In the above link you will find two Lawlesses married to two Suttons and if you go on down you will see a Pearl Ann Lawless who married an Arthur H Lawless. (Lawless marries Lawless) I hope this sheds some light as I know you have part of it already but this page seems to have quite a lot of info.
I will get back here as soon as I can to help with our ongoing research.
well we all have to take time for other stuff, personal stuff in our lives. I have been gone for a few days as well but back on this now.
hmmm yes this is going to tie in with some info I have, I will check it out and add it to what I have and see what comes up.
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btw, is the screen jumping all over the place for anyone else GRRRR !!!
I don't know what the heck is causing this but, when I type, every single letter I hit it makes the screen jump all over and I end back up at the top of the page. I can't highlight or see what I am typing because it keeps sending me back to the top of the post. ugh.
then sometimes it will stop doing it for a post, like right now this post it is not doing it, but then the next posts it will do it, has been doing this for a couple of days now ugh.
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Georgia Marriages to 1850
about Peggy Ann Sutton
Name: Peggy Ann Sutton
Spouse: Wilborn H. Lawless
Marriage Date: 10 Oct 1847
Marriage County: Lumpkin
Marriage State
: Georgia
here she is 20 years later, where is he?
1870 United States Federal Census
about Margaret Lawless
Name: Margaret Lawless
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Age in 1870: 45
Birthplace: Georgia
Home in 1870: Barretts, Dawson, Georgia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: View Image
Post Office: Dawsonville
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Lawless 45
Amos Lawless 20
Francis Lawless 18
Joseph Lawless 10
Nancy Lawless 8
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hmmm if he died in 1856, whose are these older kids?
James Howard Lawless
1850 – 1913
Amos Andrew Lawless
1851 – 1937
Francis Lawless
1852 –
William Wilson Lawless
1856 –
Joseph Leroy J Lawless
1859 – 1936
Nancy J Lawless
1863 – 1900
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1860 father is not in the house, so sometime in 1850's he is gone, but if he died in 1956, how are these older kids lawless kids? did she marry another lawless? but there is no husband in the house all the way through 1880 census, just her and the kids. so is she still have kids by someone not in the house and naming them lawless after her married / widowed name?
1860 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Lawless
Name: Joseph Lawless
Age in 1860: 8/12
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Georgia (Country)
Home in 1860: Dawsonville, Dawson, Georgia
Gender: Male
Post Office: Dawsonville
Value of real estate: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Lawless 34
Hmos Lawless 10
James Lawless 9
Williams Lawless 4
Joseph Lawless 8/12
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previous post should say the husband wilburn/wilborn lawless died in 1856 not 1956
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okay I am pulling this over from genforum. I have a lot of this in my report already, but there are others in here and also a confirmation about vashti etc is in here, so I will go through this and add what I don't have into an updated report. but I want this over here to be able to refer to.
1. JAMES1 LAWLESS was born Abt. 1800 in Virginia. He married MARY "POLLY" UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1810 in South Carolina.
Children of JAMES LAWLESS and MARY UNKNOWN are:
2. i. WILBURN H.2 LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1825, Tennessee.
3. ii. CALVIN LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1827, Tennessee.
iii. ELENDSON LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1829, Lumpkin County, Georgia.
iv. JANE LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1833, Georgia.
v. LOUISA LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1835, Georgia.
vi. POLLY ANN LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1837, Georgia.
vii. GEORGE LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1839, Georgia.
4. viii. HANSELOR A. LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1842, Georgia.
ix. JAMES LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1845, Georgia.
Generation No. 2
2. WILBURN H.2 LAWLESS (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1825 in Tennessee. He married MARGARET ANN "PEGGY" SUTTON 10 October 1847 in Lumpkin County, Georgia. She was born 26 January 1826 in Tennessee, and died 01 March 1919 in Panola County, Texas.
Notes for MARGARET ANN "PEGGY" SUTTON:
Obituary from the March 19, 1919, edition of the Panola Watchman:
Peggy Lawless, "Grandma", died March 1, 1919. She was 93 years old, son was Joe Lawless. Lived near De Berry and was said that she never had a doctor with her during her entire life.
More About MARGARET ANN "PEGGY" SUTTON:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
Children of WILBURN LAWLESS and MARGARET SUTTON are:
5. i. JAMES HOWARD3 LAWLESS, b. 16 April 1850, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 03 October 1913, Panola County, Texas.
6. ii. AMOS LAWLESS, b. March 1851, Georgia; d. 1937.
iii. WILLIAM LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1856, Lumpkin County, Georgia.
7. iv. JOSEPH L. "JOE" LAWLESS, b. October 1859, Dawson County, Georgia.
v. NANCY J. LAWLESS, b. January 1863, Dawson County, Georgia.
3. CALVIN2 LAWLESS (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1827 in Tennessee. He married NANCY SUTTON. She was born Abt. 1828 in Tennessee, and died Aft. 1870.
Children of CALVIN LAWLESS and NANCY SUTTON are:
i. JOHN3 LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1850, Georgia.
ii. JOYANN LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1854, Georgia.
iii. ANGELINE LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1856, Georgia.
iv. MARY LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1858, Georgia.
4. HANSELOR A.2 LAWLESS (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1842 in Georgia. He married ELIZABETH HARDIN. She was born Abt. 1845.
More About HANSELOR A. LAWLESS:
Burial: Davis Cemetery, Cherokee, DeKalb, Alabama
Children of HANSELOR LAWLESS and ELIZABETH HARDIN are:
i. WILLIAM HENRY3 LAWLESS, b. 24 July 1865; d. 14 January 1919; m. MARY ELIZABETH WOOD.
ii. MATTIE LAWLESS, b. 10 April 1871; d. 09 March 1909; m. WILLIAM STEWART.
iii. FLORA MAE LAWLESS, b. 10 May 1880; d. 23 May 1966; m. JOHN CALVIN FRICKS.
More About FLORA MAE LAWLESS:
Burial: Davis Cemetery, Cherokee, DeKalb, Alabama
More About JOHN CALVIN FRICKS:
Burial: Davis Cemetery, Cherokee, DeKalb, Alabama
Generation No. 3
5. JAMES HOWARD3 LAWLESS (WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born 16 April 1850 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 03 October 1913 in Panola County, Texas. He married SARAH ANN HARRIETT JAY 28 October 1877 in Lumpkin County, Georgia. She was born 13 December 1848 in Lumpkin County, Georgia, and died 27 April 1928 in Panola County, Texas.
More About JAMES HOWARD LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About SARAH ANN HARRIETT JAY:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
Children of JAMES LAWLESS and SARAH JAY are:
8. i. AMOS HILLIARD4 LAWLESS, b. August 1878, Georgia; d. 1953, Panola County, Texas.
9. ii. CHARLIE ERWIN LAWLESS, b. 29 October 1879, Georgia; d. 27 June 1944, Doctor's Hospital, Shreveport, Caddo, Louisiana.
iii. JOSEPH "JOE" LAWLESS, b. June 1881, Georgia.
iv. LUTHER LAWLESS, b. October 1884, Panola County, Texas.
v. JAMES CLAYTON LAWLESS, b. April 1886, Georgia.
vi. G. ARTHUR LAWLESS, b. February 1892, Georgia; d. 1953, Elysian Fields, Harrison, Texas; m. EDNA GREER; b. 04 April 1891; d. November 1974, Elysian Fields, Harrison, Texas.
More About G. ARTHUR LAWLESS:
Burial: Elysian Fields Cemetery (New Town), Elysian Fields, Harrison, Texas
More About EDNA GREER:
Burial: Elysian Fields Cemetery (New Town), Elysian Fields, Harrison, Texas
10. vii. WILLIAM EARL LAWLESS, b. 1893; d. 1957.
6. AMOS3 LAWLESS (WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born March 1851 in Georgia, and died 1937. He married MARY JANE COLLIER 10 September 1871 in Dawson County, Georgia. She was born September 1851 in South Carolina, and died 1931.
More About AMOS LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About MARY JANE COLLIER:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
Children of AMOS LAWLESS and MARY COLLIER are:
i. ADDIE4 LAWLESS, b. June 1873, Dawson County, Georgia; m. RAPHEL A. MARTIN, 02 October 1890, Dawson County, Georgia; b. December 1869, Georgia.
11. ii. ARTHUR H. LAWLESS, b. October 1877, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 1931.
iii. LUTHER "LUSTER" LAWLESS, b. November 1878, Dawson County, Georgia.
iv. LOER LAWLESS, b. 1883, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 1899.
More About LOER LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
v. HENRY LAWLESS, b. February 1887, Dawson County, Georgia.
12. vi. LEONARD OREN LAWLESS, b. 22 September 1888, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 29 August 1961.
13. vii. DOMMIE DOYLE LAWLESS, b. February 1891, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 31 May 1953, Harrison County, Texas.
viii. LOUIS LAWLESS, b. 1898; d. 1898.
More About LOUIS LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
7. JOSEPH L. "JOE"3 LAWLESS (WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born October 1859 in Dawson County, Georgia. He married FRANCES ANN FORBES 18 June 1882 in Dawson County, Georgia. She was born December 1862 in Georgia, and died 1932 in Texas.
More About FRANCES ANN FORBES:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
Children of JOSEPH LAWLESS and FRANCES FORBES are:
i. AZZIE M.4 LAWLESS, b. March 1883, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 1954, Texas; m. LUTHER H. CHANDLER; b. 1885; d. 1964, Texas.
More About AZZIE M. LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About LUTHER H. CHANDLER:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
14. ii. JAMES MILTON "MILT" LAWLESS, b. 28 February 1886, Dawson County, Georgia; d. June 1974, Harrison County, Texas.
15. iii. PEARL ANN "PEARLIE" LAWLESS, b. 09 September 1888, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 14 April 1972, De Berry, Panola, Texas.
iv. MARY M. "MAGGIE" LAWLESS, b. 27 April 1891, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 17 May 1940.
More About MARY M. "MAGGIE" LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
16. v. WILLIAM A. LAWLESS, b. April 1894, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 1954, Texas.
vi. JANE B. LAWLESS, b. November 1896, Dawson County, Georgia.
vii. EMMA E. LAWLESS, b. 10 April 1899, Dawson County, Georgia; d. 16 June 1984; m. JED R. HILL; b. 09 July 1890; d. 01 September 1953.
More About EMMA E. LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About JED R. HILL:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
Generation No. 4
8. AMOS HILLIARD4 LAWLESS (JAMES HOWARD3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born August 1878 in Georgia, and died 1953 in Panola County, Texas. He married WILLIE TAYLOR. She was born August 1880 in Texas, and died 1959 in Panola County, Texas.
More About AMOS HILLIARD LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About WILLIE TAYLOR:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
9. CHARLIE ERWIN4 LAWLESS (JAMES HOWARD3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born 29 October 1879 in Georgia, and died 27 June 1944 in Doctor's Hospital, Shreveport, Caddo, Louisiana. He married MARY ELLA TILLER 16 November 1898 in Texas. She was born 19 August 1879 in Panola County, Texas, and died 04 December 1957 in Panola County, Texas.
Notes for CHARLIE ERWIN LAWLESS:
After marrying Ella, Charlie and Ella initially lived in a small log house two miles southwest of Mt. Zion Church on the Shreveport highway. In about 1910, Charlie, Ella, and the family moved to Bliss, OK. After about two years, they moved back to Panola County. While in OK, Charlie and the children contracted typhoid fever, recovered, and returned to their original log home. Later, Charlie built a large home and planted a grove of pecan trees. They grew their own food. They attended Mt. Zion Methodist Church.
More About CHARLIE ERWIN LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About MARY ELLA TILLER:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
10. WILLIAM EARL4 LAWLESS (JAMES HOWARD3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born 1893, and died 1957. He married (1) ELSIE GREER. She was born 1893, and died 1924. He married (2) LAURA VASHTIE JAY. She was born 1901, and died 1963.
More About WILLIAM EARL LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About ELSIE GREER:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About LAURA VASHTIE JAY:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
11. ARTHUR H.4 LAWLESS (AMOS3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born October 1877 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 1931. He married PEARL ANN "PEARLIE" LAWLESS, daughter of JOSEPH LAWLESS and FRANCES FORBES. She was born 09 September 1888 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 14 April 1972 in De Berry, Panola, Texas.
More About ARTHUR H. LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
12. LEONARD OREN4 LAWLESS (AMOS3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born 22 September 1888 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 29 August 1961. He married AMY LOIS ADAMS. She was born 27 September 1899, and died 07 July 1949.
More About LEONARD OREN LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About AMY LOIS ADAMS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
13. DOMMIE DOYLE4 LAWLESS (AMOS3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born February 1891 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 31 May 1953 in Harrison County, Texas. He married EWING FOSTINA KELLEY. She was born 28 June 1898 in Harrison County, Texas, and died 10 October 1980 in Elysian Fields, Harrison, Texas.
Notes for RUDOLF HENRY LAWLESS:
Died at age of 4 months.
14. JAMES MILTON "MILT"4 LAWLESS (JOSEPH L. "JOE"3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born 28 February 1886 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died June 1974 in Harrison County, Texas. He married MINNIE OVIE DUKE. She was born 15 December 1880 in Spring Creek, Cherokee, Alabama, and died 04 May 1966 in Harrison County, Texas.
15. PEARL ANN "PEARLIE"4 LAWLESS (JOSEPH L. "JOE"3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born 09 September 1888 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 14 April 1972 in De Berry, Panola, Texas. She married ARTHUR H. LAWLESS, son of AMOS LAWLESS and MARY COLLIER. He was born October 1877 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 1931.
More About ARTHUR H. LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
16. WILLIAM A.4 LAWLESS (JOSEPH L. "JOE"3, WILBURN H.2, JAMES1) was born April 1894 in Dawson County, Georgia, and died 1954 in Texas. He married VELER S.. She was born 1890, and died 25 September 1977.
More About WILLIAM A. LAWLESS:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
More About VELER S.:
Burial: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Panola County, Texas
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Re: Texas/Oklahoma/Kansas - Lawless Connection
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notice one of the lawless above goes to OKLAHOMA for awhile, then returns. also notice they are right by the shreivport highway, this is probably how they got from louisiana to texas, they are probably living right at the border. where is de berry texas anyway? is it on the east side by the louisiana border? I am guessing it is.
the other thing I find interesting is there might be two sutton/lawless marriages, let me get that info over here on this thread also.
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pulling this over from genforum post. now we don't know how accurate any of this info is, so I will try to find as many documents as I can to confirm the info
A Joseph (8/12 yr.) was listed with the household of Margaret Lawless 34, GA in the 1860 Dawson Co GA census (p.12). The other children were Amos 10, James 9, and William 4.
I believe that Margaret Lawless was the Peggy Ann Sutton who married Wilbern/Lilburn/Wilhern Lawless (p.78 on 1850 Lumpkin Co GA census - b.1825) in Lumpklin Co GA in 1847. Calvin Lawless, also of Lumpkin/Dawson, married Nancy Sutton in 1849. Calvin Lawless became an estate appraiser with James Sutton which establishes a Lawless/Sutton relationship. In 1850, Calvin Lawless, 23, was on p.15 of the Lumpkin Co census as was James Lawless 65, VA. In 1860 and 1870, the elderly James was listed as part of Calvin's household.
James Sutton (b.1790 VA) of Lumpkin/Dawson Co GA, was married to Elizabeth (b. 1799 VA). Their documented children were Amos, James, Mary, Cynthia, Joseph, Theophilus, and William. Amos was born 1818 in VA. Other children as reflected on 1830 and 1840 records were born in NC and then GA. The only marriage that seems to apply to James and Elizabeth Sutton would be that in 1817 Washington Co VA for James SUTTON and Elizabeth LAWLESS.
Nancy Sutton Lawless and Margaret/PeggyAnn Sutton Lawless, if daughters of James and Elizabeth Sutton, would strengthen family ties between Lawless and Sutton families from VA.
In working with these Dawson Co families, it seems most likely that Calvin Lawless was a son of James Lawless. There is little record of Wilburn/Liburn who married Peggy Ann Sutton who was the mother of Joseph Lawless. He was in Dawson Co only on the 1850 census.
Have you found any more information about the family of Joseph L. Lawless of Dawson Co GA?
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ok in the above post from genforum, I think I can figure this out, and the CLL washington line came from VA way back there. so let me try to go find the suttons. the poster is right about margaret lawless being peggy ann sutton. Now she marries a calving lawless? hmm so maybe after wilborn lawless died she married calvin? and this is where the older lawless children are coming from, however, calvin is never listed on the census with her? hmm. let me go find these suttons
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wow talk about confusing, my head is SPUN !!!
I just about get this stuff straight in my head and then another mixed up mess happens gee. I really don't know how the heck we are going to remember all this stuff
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not sure who this is, but the dates fit him
1850
United States Federal Census
about James Sutton
Name: James Sutton
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785
Birth Place: Virginia
Gender: Male
Home in 1850(City,County,State): District 46,
Putnam, Virginia
Household Members: Name Age
T P Brown 42
Sophia Brown 33
Susan E Brown 14
Wm P Brown 12
Anna M Brown 8
George W Brown 5
James M Brown 2
Joel D Shrewsbury 25
James Sutton 65
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1870 United States Federal Census
about Calvin Lawless
Name: Calvin Lawless
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Age in 1870: 43
Birthplace: Georgia
Home in 1870: Barretts, Dawson, Georgia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View Image
Post Office:
Dawsonville
Household Members: Name Age
Calvin Lawless 43
Nancy Lawless 42
Mary Lawless 12
Josephine Lawless 7
Sarah Lawless 4
James Lawless 76 this can't be the one above who was 65 yrs old 20 years before this
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