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WhiskeyGirl
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Obama - Man of War...Does he have an original birth certificate?
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Obama's war goals questioned
Re: "Obama assures grads -- No sending into harm's way unless necessary," Saturday news story.
President Barack Obama told U.S. Naval Academy graduates, "I will only send you into harm's way when it is absolutely necessary, and with the strategy, the well-defined goals, the equipment and support that you need to get the job done."
He has more than 100,000 troops in Iraq, where he does not believe in the mission and has no goals but to take another year to withdraw.
And what are the "well-defined goals" for Afghanistan? Where is the timetable for withdrawal?
Why isn't the media berating him every day over this? Oh yeah, he's not George W. Bush.
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Posted by John @ 12:17 AM Thu, May 28, 2009
Obama has done the exact opposite of what he has said he is going to do on everything.
He has paid 1 Million in attourneys fee's to fight 10 lawsuits to avoid showing his long form birth certificate.
If you had nothing to hide, I think you'd show the certificate.
Heck, I cant even get a drivers license without a birth certificate. The president is the most powerfull job in the world, and he refuses to show us his birth certificate.
He wants to leave our troops overseas so we dont have anyone here to protect the homefront.
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/05/obamas-war-goal.html
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Re: Obama - Man of War...Does he have an original birth certificate?
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Posted by John @ 12:17 AM Thu, May 28, 2009
Obama has done the exact opposite of what he has said he is going to do on everything.
He has paid 1 Million in attourneys fee's to fight 10 lawsuits to avoid showing his long form birth certificate.
If you had nothing to hide, I think you'd show the certificate.
Heck, I cant even get a drivers license without a birth certificate. The president is the most powerfull job in the world, and he refuses to show us his birth certificate.
He wants to leave our troops overseas so we dont have anyone here to protect the homefront.
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/05/obamas-war-goal.html
President Obama DID allow to be published the copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate that was sent to him from the Hawaiian government records office that keeps such things. President Obama's birth certificate was likely published on thousands of websites.
So... where's the secrecy in that?
It truly helps in any dialogue or debate to just stick to the truth. Extremists of any political stripe who persist in smears and lies and nasty email rumors do not have the best interests of our country at heart.
It is true that the mailed copies of birth certificates sent out by this Hawaiian government records office do not exactly duplicate the original. To clear up any confusion whatsoever, researchers did travel to Hawaii and did get to see and touch the
actual birth certificate
of President Obama.
Here are some of their findings:
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Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false.
The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 (2008) that Obama was born in Honolulu.
The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates).
Here are some of their photos:
The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.
The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.
The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.
We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.
In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.
You can read more here.
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I believe Hawaii also issued such birth certificates (like the one they sent Barack) to people who were born elsewhere, and adopted, born elsewhere to non-citizens and in other cases as a courtesy.
For $10, Barack could end the controversy completely. Take the wind out of the sails of discontent.
What is the worst thing that could happen if Barack paid the $10 and made the file public?
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