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« Reply #100 on: November 11, 2006, 09:42:47 PM »

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Some of the pictures at that site concerned me, this one in particular.
http://www.perfectpicturesaruba.com/fotos/Gallery/tam3.jpg


Hi Tyler.  Hope you are feeling better.  I don't like seeing pics of little girls like that on the internet, even though the pic appears to be innocent enough.  But, that's just me.  I prefer not to see child models.  In this day, with all the perverts around, children should be protected, and that means their images, too.


Perhaps innocent, but with the likes of Arubans involved and that business that going on down there, with the bride (?) business, the male models, etc., etc., it makes me wonder why these small girls pictures are being taken in such a seductive manner.....makes me go hmmmmmmm.......
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« Reply #101 on: November 11, 2006, 09:44:36 PM »

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For the first time in all my looking at those photos I actually see what you are talking about.  I would like to see a much larger version to be sure, but going from your description I understand why you say this.


I saw it when we were discussing these pictures before.  Anna pointed it out to me and I could definitely see it, the only thing that I have ever seen in these pictures that made sense.  "Deepak brought two dogs...."


I guess it looks like a dog in the small pic, but it is just shadow in the larger version.  Figures, I didn't see anything...never have been able to see anything in those videos.  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #102 on: November 11, 2006, 09:47:19 PM »

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Does anyone think this PETER CREUTZBERG looks similar to the bearded rock painter in the video??
 Yes, absolutely.
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« Reply #103 on: November 11, 2006, 09:47:55 PM »

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For the first time in all my looking at those photos I actually see what you are talking about.  I would like to see a much larger version to be sure, but going from your description I understand why you say this.


I saw it when we were discussing these pictures before.  Anna pointed it out to me and I could definitely see it, the only thing that I have ever seen in these pictures that made sense.  "Deepak brought two dogs...."


I guess it looks like a dog in the small pic, but it is just shadow in the larger version.  Figures, I didn't see anything...never have been able to see anything in those videos.  Rolling Eyes

Sorry Lala's, I'm not trying to persuade anyone, I just don't see a dog..I see a shadow.
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« Reply #104 on: November 11, 2006, 09:48:48 PM »

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Evening all.  

Anyone look at the November 10th images from C&C's posted on the CoolAruba website?  Might as well be pornography imo.  I was told guy on the stage wearing the white polo style shirt and jeans was recently fired from the Tamarijn Hotel for an alleged rape.  

Now it seems he is hosting live HANDS ON ‘entertainment’ at C&C's http://i10.tinypic.com/2d6vdpg.jpg (The images are a bit graphic, no nudity, but as close as you can get, the other pictures hosted on CoolAruba.com from that night, on the other hand…).  If anyone has any details about this alleged rape please let me know.   I should have a name to go with this face in due time...


There were some worse than this posted at "College Republicans" (I think that was the name of it, but not sure.  I bet Klaas remembers).
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« Reply #105 on: November 11, 2006, 09:49:52 PM »

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Evening all.  

Anyone look at the November 10th images from C&C's posted on the CoolAruba website?  Might as well be pornography imo.  I was told guy on the stage wearing the white polo style shirt and jeans was recently fired from the Tamarijn Hotel for an alleged rape.  

Now it seems he is hosting live HANDS ON ‘entertainment’ at C&C's http://i10.tinypic.com/2d6vdpg.jpg (The images are a bit graphic, no nudity, but as close as you can get, the other pictures hosted on CoolAruba.com from that night, on the other hand…).  If anyone has any details about this alleged rape please let me know.   I should have a name to go with this face in due time...


There were some worse than this posted at "College Republicans" (I think that was the name of it, but not sure.  I bet Klaas remembers).

That website doesn't exist any more.  I think it was Young Proud Republican, or something like that.
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« Reply #106 on: November 11, 2006, 10:00:52 PM »

I just want to see "something" besides plastic bags and paint is all. I want to believe there is really something of value in those videos...just have to keep trying.  Laughing
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« Reply #107 on: November 11, 2006, 10:03:30 PM »

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Evening all.  

Anyone look at the November 10th images from C&C's posted on the CoolAruba website?  Might as well be pornography imo.  I was told guy on the stage wearing the white polo style shirt and jeans was recently fired from the Tamarijn Hotel for an alleged rape.  

Now it seems he is hosting live HANDS ON ‘entertainment’ at C&C's http://i10.tinypic.com/2d6vdpg.jpg (The images are a bit graphic, no nudity, but as close as you can get, the other pictures hosted on CoolAruba.com from that night, on the other hand…).  If anyone has any details about this alleged rape please let me know.   I should have a name to go with this face in due time...


There were some worse than this posted at "College Republicans" (I think that was the name of it, but not sure.  I bet Klaas remembers).

That website doesn't exist any more.  I think it was Young Proud Republican, or something like that.


The pictures are bad enough.   Then add a guy who allegedly raped a women at the Tamarijn hotel...  It seems C&C's either does no background checks or disregards prior criminal activity when empolying these people to host what is essentially porn IMO.  

It's not the pictures that are this issue here.  It is what Aruba is marketing.  They have huge national ad campaigns and project an significant increase in tourism for 2007, yet it seems they are not taking the necessary steps to protect these tourists.  Corruption within the law enforcement breeds criminal behavior, therefore along with the projected increase in tourism I suspect there will be a similar increase in crime.  It is only a matter of time....
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« Reply #108 on: November 11, 2006, 10:06:58 PM »

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I just want to see "something" besides plastic bags and paint is all. I want to believe there is really something of value in those videos...just have to keep trying.  Laughing


I know Lala, Im with you on that.  Regardless, Carpe deserves his props.  He has dedicated months to those videos... Just wanted to share them in honor of his efforts.
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« Reply #109 on: November 11, 2006, 10:08:10 PM »

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Anna - I took my own screen capture of the rock area where you think you are seeing a dog.  I really think it's simply the shadow caused by the crevice between the two or three rock formation:






Thanks, Klaas,
Still looks just like big black dog to me, just sorta flattened from being in the sun a few days, maybe sunken into crevices as decomp starts.

Like looking at clouds, we all see different things.

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« Reply #110 on: November 11, 2006, 10:13:38 PM »

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

Peter R. de Vries Now Investigating … “Something Bad Happened” in Aruba


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/11/11/peter-r-de-vries-now-investigating-something-bad-happened-in-aruba/
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« Reply #111 on: November 11, 2006, 10:13:56 PM »

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Anna - I took my own screen capture of the rock area where you think you are seeing a dog.  I really think it's simply the shadow caused by the crevice between the two or three rock formation:






I used this image from earlier because it seems clearer...what is the area just above the really dark area we are calling a dog...the area where it is sort of gray looking as if something is draped over the rock near the top?  Anyone see that?
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« Reply #112 on: November 11, 2006, 10:16:04 PM »

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Does anyone think this PETER CREUTZBERG looks similar to the bearded rock painter in the video??
 Yes, absolutely.


Is this the same guy we ID'ed a long time ago in a photo with what looks like some sort of badge attached to his belt?

Doens't every business require a Dutch passport holdre for registration?  Thought also we ran across a ruling like that long ago.  Can be of any extraction but must hold Dutch citizenship.

In other words, must be a resident to The Kingdom from any region.

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« Reply #113 on: November 11, 2006, 10:17:27 PM »

Lala's - I'm not positive but I do know that is in the same area where we see the guy spreading out the plastic/white tarp.
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« Reply #114 on: November 11, 2006, 10:22:01 PM »

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Lala's - I'm not positive but I do know that is in the same area where we see the guy spreading out the plastic/white tarp.


It's probably just the way the sun is shining on those rocks.
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« Reply #115 on: November 11, 2006, 10:22:09 PM »

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Anna - I took my own screen capture of the rock area where you think you are seeing a dog.  I really think it's simply the shadow caused by the crevice between the two or three rock formation:






I used this image from earlier because it seems clearer...what is the area just above the really dark area we are calling a dog...the area where it is sort of gray looking as if something is draped over the rock near the top?  Anyone see that?


 Shocked ???
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« Reply #116 on: November 11, 2006, 10:24:08 PM »

Grande - some were thinking that the shadow area between the rocks may have been a dead dog.  I enlarged and highlighted the area and I think it's simply a shadow in the crevice of the rocks.  What do you think?
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« Reply #117 on: November 11, 2006, 10:26:09 PM »

At first glance it appears to be a doctored image/shadow.
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« Reply #118 on: November 11, 2006, 10:26:59 PM »

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Anna - I took my own screen capture of the rock area where you think you are seeing a dog.  I really think it's simply the shadow caused by the crevice between the two or three rock formation:






I used this image from earlier because it seems clearer...what is the area just above the really dark area we are calling a dog...the area where it is sort of gray looking as if something is draped over the rock near the top?  Anyone see that?


 Shocked ???



Lalas,
I can't tell what that is at the top.  Something.   Shocked The reason I do not see it as a shadow is look closely at the top one and notice where the hind leg attached is in very bright sunlight and yet it doesn't receed into the crevice but looks flat like the light is hitting on something solid and very shallow in the indentions.  The hind leg seems forward instead of in shadows to me.  The shadow does not go back as it should but seems very shallow.

But as I said, this is like looking at clouds, we all see something different.  And no matter what we see, it's not likely to make a tremendous difference in helping to find Natalee.  Unfortunately.  
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« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2006, 10:28:00 PM »

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At first glance it appears to be a doctored image/shadow.

Well of course it's doctored in my enlarged and highlighted photo capture from the video.  Only doctored to the extent that I enlarged and highlighted it though.  I didn't paint anything on the rocks, lol  Laughing
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