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« Reply #460 on: November 13, 2006, 04:54:31 PM »

AZLady, I'm no expert, but your translation makes sense.
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« Reply #461 on: November 13, 2006, 04:57:05 PM »

Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html

Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.

From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."

Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"?


Yes.

SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:

"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”
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« Reply #462 on: November 13, 2006, 05:05:38 PM »

thanks Bleached!!
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Glenda wrote: "aruba's job was not to babysit Beth's daughter. Beth sent her daughter to swim with the sharks, she is responsible for what ever happened to Natalee." = there is no homicide in aruba, only SUICIDE.  Don't go to aruba if you value your life.
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« Reply #463 on: November 13, 2006, 05:07:00 PM »

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Yes.

SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:

"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”


There were others who also made comments about Jorans strange personality/affect. I think it was Dompig who said something about his ability to make himself seem like "gods gift to mother-inlaws" or something like that. Then an FBI member who viewed some part of Jorans interrogations made a comment about him being the strangest (not sure if that is the exact word used ) suspect he had ever witnessed.
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« Reply #464 on: November 13, 2006, 05:08:20 PM »

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Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html

Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.

From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."

Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"?


Yes.

SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:

"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”




he was CHOKING her.........

k2 are weasels that saw it happen
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« Reply #465 on: November 13, 2006, 05:12:29 PM »

"Dompig is also quoted as saying van der Sloot, the prime suspect, struck Aruban authorities and the FBI as the type of guy who was a "mother-in-law's God's gift."

"I don't know," Twitty said. "But I remember specifically in a meeting (with authorities that) they were saying this is the most unusual man they had ever dealt with. They had never seen anyone who has just refused to cooperate with the authorities. He really toyed with them during the interrogations, and quite often would place his fingers in his ears and just refuse to speak."

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« Reply #466 on: November 13, 2006, 05:15:11 PM »

Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html

Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.

From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."

Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"?


Yes.

SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:

"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”




he was CHOKING her.........

k2 are weasels that saw it happen

I sort of thought that as soon as they got away from C & C's on a deserted road, he attacked her in a sexual way. And not French Kissing.
When you read his statement, he KNEW she wanted to have sex with him just by her body language. Holy, one of those kind of perverts. A girl smiles at him or is friendly and she wants sex ? Poor Natalee.
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« Reply #467 on: November 13, 2006, 05:19:55 PM »

You are right Kat_Gram . There has to be something psychiatrically wrong with the guy. I don't know if he's a pervert or on what level it is......but simply the fact that Natalee is still missing, and he has gone all this time with it on his conscience-the act of the matter is he has no conscience, and has done nothing but lie. A true sociopath......
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« Reply #468 on: November 13, 2006, 05:23:06 PM »

Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html

Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.

From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."

Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"?


Yes.

SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:

"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”




he was CHOKING her.........

k2 are weasels that saw it happen

I sort of thought that as soon as they got away from C & C's on a deserted road, he attacked her in a sexual way. And not French Kissing.
When you read his statement, he KNEW she wanted to have sex with him just by her body language. Holy, one of those kind of perverts. A girl smiles at him or is friendly and she wants sex ? Poor Natalee.




yep, when the K brother said "joran is crazy"

he was referring to something that was hurting Natalee


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« Reply #469 on: November 13, 2006, 05:25:52 PM »

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Sorry forgot to post my comment about this psot brought over from BFN. I saw it shortly after it was posted, and recall qanother poster from there refering to Espionage as MIP6 . so for what it's worth....he may have adopted an alias after the recent blog discussions about him. Not sure how he might have any info and be able to say anything about Looking to the southwest or whatever.......

FWIW...here is the exchange;

espionage posted >>  There is a secluded location on the southwestern portion of the island that needs exploration.

MIP6 responds >> It's being checked "Robert".

igsigs responds >> Being checked? Is this a new lead or tip?

ALL 3 posts then removed.
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« Reply #470 on: November 13, 2006, 05:32:31 PM »

Can't understand the posts being removed. That doesn't sit well with me, among other things.... Crying or Very sad
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« Reply #471 on: November 13, 2006, 05:35:30 PM »

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Can't understand the posts being removed. That doesn't sit well with me, among other things.... Crying or Very sad

Well, who could remove the posts ?
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« Reply #472 on: November 13, 2006, 05:41:07 PM »

Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html

Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.

From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."

Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"?


Yes.

SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:

"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”



he was CHOKING her.........

k2 are weasels that saw it happen

Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her.  I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face).  This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away.  Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal.  I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.

There is no reason to hide if you are innocent.  He is as violent as they come.  Bo Dietel said he had evil in him.

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« Reply #473 on: November 13, 2006, 05:41:33 PM »

Well anyone can delete their own posts for one thing. But then if the post was quoted by another poster...say in a follow-up, which was the case here....it should have remained. It didn't I checked. So, 1) each poster had to delete their post. 2) poster could have written to moderator and asked for post(s) to be deleted. 3) moderator/admin could delete posts as they see fit.
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« Reply #474 on: November 13, 2006, 05:44:13 PM »

Just a quick check-in to see if anything is happening.  I've been at the razor-wire factory today (Criminal Court) for jury duty.  Not on a jury, but I'm tired and sore.  I did earn $17.20 though!   Shocked

Odd that those posts were removed.  Confused  I'll have to read back a bit after dinner.  Good to see the monkeys are at their posts and hard at work!
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« Reply #475 on: November 13, 2006, 05:45:28 PM »

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You are right Kat_Gram . There has to be something psychiatrically wrong with the guy. I don't know if he's a pervert or on what level it is......but simply the fact that Natalee is still missing, and he has gone all this time with it on his conscience-the act of the matter is he has no conscience, and has done nothing but lie. A true sociopath......

I agree and Paulus and Anita help him think he did nothing wrong.  They built this mad man up even more.  He is a danger to society.
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« Reply #476 on: November 13, 2006, 05:46:07 PM »

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Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her. I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face). This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away. Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal. I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.


I personally think they used the GHB as a chemical way of restraining Natalee. Remember this is their MO, at least 20 times before......they drove around and let the drugs take full effect.
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« Reply #477 on: November 13, 2006, 05:46:33 PM »

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Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her.  I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face).  This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away.  Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal.  I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.

There is no reason to hide if you are innocent.  He is as violent as they come.  Bo Dietel said he had evil in him.


I agree with Bo.  Something wrong with that boy IMO.
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« Reply #478 on: November 13, 2006, 05:48:38 PM »

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Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her. I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face). This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away. Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal. I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.


I personally think they used the GHB as a chemical way of restraining Natalee. Remember this is their MO, at least 20 times before......they drove around and let the drugs take full effect.

Oh with out a doubt she was drugged.
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« Reply #479 on: November 13, 2006, 05:49:14 PM »

I know it is so sad........
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