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« Reply #740 on: November 14, 2006, 12:54:31 AM »

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Well, I know AG street address, but will not make it public here, even though it is already public knowledge.  That is why I wanted Straaten's address.


You saved it? I'm impressed. You are a modest monkey, but very smart.  Wink
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« Reply #741 on: November 14, 2006, 12:55:36 AM »

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I also remember an interesting poster named Tony.


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« Reply #742 on: November 14, 2006, 12:55:56 AM »

Okay, let's talk "5th suspect" here for a bit...these are not my thoughts but come from a very astute former poster here...

no one wants to talk about Lorenzo, who is simian's 5th suspect

simian on June 22:
I am here. Can't say the things I want…
The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?"

How many suspects were there on June 22?

June 9 Joran/K2 detained = 3
June 13 security guards released
June 16 Lorenzo questioned (considered a suspect according to Tito Lacle/FOXNews/Aruba Today)
June 17 Maxito Arendsz questioned, provided alibi for Lorenzo
June 17 Steve Croes detained = 1
June 18 Paulus questioned
June 19 Paulus questioned
________________________ total suspects = 4 ... or 5 ... counting Lorenzo
June 23 Paulus detained

Paulus is not on the list of suspects on June 22 when simian says:

The 5th suspect has an alibi so strong that he has everybody baffled.
The 5th suspect was the boyfriend from earlier in the week.
The party-goers said the 5th one was with them. He was the host. How could he have left?
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« Reply #743 on: November 14, 2006, 12:56:14 AM »

Here is another interesting post :

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject:      Reply with quote
Lorenzo had 3 houses:
his mansion Savaneta 172, Savaneta (Jaraweg),
his concrete country block house, near Arikok Park near Hooiberg,
and the mansion his mother lived in, which is the ONLY ONE they searched, apx June 16th?:
SAVANETA 123-K, SAVANETA, ARUBA

Lorenzo also had an alibi for why he could not have been out with Natalee:
Max Arendz (the race car driver and his friend) said Lorenzo was hosting a (basically all night) party at his mansion which Max attended, which gave Lorenzo his air tight alibi.

IF the party that Paulus and the elders attended was at Lorenzo's house, and Natalee was delivered there, Lorenzo no longer has an air tight alibi does he.

In Lively Case Discussion # 495
Two people (a recall of what DutchLady had said in the past, and Sandy Leiva, our Aruban language translator) both who should know the Dutch better than we do told of a GENERATIONAL tradition type thing. The old (the "elders") have the young deliver young pretty girls to them for their pleasure. Then as the young grow old, they teach their young, and it repeats, making it generational.

NOW
Combine ALL of it:
the GENERATIONAL INFO
the DATE-RAPE DRUGS
the PORN filming

WHAT SICK TWISTED BUT PROBABLY TRUE FINAL RESULT DO WE HAVE?
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« Reply #744 on: November 14, 2006, 12:56:24 AM »

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Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I know AG street address, but will not make it public here, even though it is already public knowledge.  That is why I wanted Straaten's address.


Straten Jan Van Der, Paraguana 6


Lala's the above is in the Aruba white pages.  I have no idea if it's current or not.
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« Reply #745 on: November 14, 2006, 12:57:22 AM »

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Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I know AG street address, but will not make it public here, even though it is already public knowledge.  That is why I wanted Straaten's address.


Straten Jan Van Der, Paraguana 6


Now I need a map with street names.  Wink
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« Reply #746 on: November 14, 2006, 12:58:06 AM »

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Some of the old codetalkers still have the Peeps posts.  One sent to me not that long ago, few months.  Now sure if I kept it or what I might have filed it under but I guess I am the only one who doesn't think the party at LVR involved.

Not sure exactly why but don't think he is the major player in this that many do.  I think he was called in for questioning as the local resident strange person pretty much but don't make much further connection.

I always thought AG posting at MajorWager might be a gambling connection, too.   Cool

But we were told LVR uses a different last name in The Netherlands.  Don't know if that part is true or not for we never know what is true and what isn't.  Do we even know he was called in for questioning for a fact?  Remember when we tried to ask that irrefutable source TITO, he gave us the fictional character Lorenzo Wever.

Since that was finally cleared up, I have wondered if it was really Guido Wever called in early or Lorenzo.  Too much double talk out of Aruba.

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« Reply #747 on: November 14, 2006, 12:58:40 AM »

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Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I know AG street address, but will not make it public here, even though it is already public knowledge.  That is why I wanted Straaten's address.


Straten Jan Van Der, Paraguana 6


Now I need a map with street names.  Wink

Ha, good luck with that.
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« Reply #748 on: November 14, 2006, 12:59:19 AM »

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Here is another interesting post :

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject:      Reply with quote
Lorenzo had 3 houses:
his mansion Savaneta 172, Savaneta (Jaraweg),
his concrete country block house, near Arikok Park near Hooiberg,
and the mansion his mother lived in, which is the ONLY ONE they searched, apx June 16th?:
SAVANETA 123-K, SAVANETA, ARUBA

Lorenzo also had an alibi for why he could not have been out with Natalee:
Max Arendz (the race car driver and his friend) said Lorenzo was hosting a (basically all night) party at his mansion which Max attended, which gave Lorenzo his air tight alibi.

IF the party that Paulus and the elders attended was at Lorenzo's house, and Natalee was delivered there, Lorenzo no longer has an air tight alibi does he.

In Lively Case Discussion # 495
Two people (a recall of what DutchLady had said in the past, and Sandy Leiva, our Aruban language translator) both who should know the Dutch better than we do told of a GENERATIONAL tradition type thing. The old (the "elders") have the young deliver young pretty girls to them for their pleasure. Then as the young grow old, they teach their young, and it repeats, making it generational.

NOW
Combine ALL of it:
the GENERATIONAL INFO
the DATE-RAPE DRUGS
the PORN filming

WHAT SICK TWISTED BUT PROBABLY TRUE FINAL RESULT DO WE HAVE?


And people make fun of my Shango...twisted indeed.    Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #749 on: November 14, 2006, 01:01:21 AM »

Anna
I see where you are going and I agree... it is hard to make heads or tails out of this stuff...we just have to keep digging and looking...the truth is there and it might just be very simple.  Then again...
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« Reply #750 on: November 14, 2006, 01:02:08 AM »

Peeps
I am the owner of Boost Unit website and the webmaster of the speedshop. I don't know what your deal is with us or anything. We don't have nor want anything to do with some stupid teens, americans, dutch, surinam or any nationality whatsoever involved with this annoying case. We don't know that teen Joran nor his 3 chocolate factory buddies. They are not of our age bracket. We are some motorsports fans and that's all there is to it.


Peeps
knew about this site from the newspapers, plus its name is pretty "catchy". I got my monthly referrals report today (Aug 1) and what do I see? More than 50 referrals from the famous NH connected "scared monkeys". The purpose of this particular speculation forum is all good. I just don't want our names stickied on the internet,especially something that we have no part in. This is not the first time that somebody wants to connect us with the fatass dutchy. I did a typo, I meant 2 chocolate buddies.


Peeps
Maxito is one of my best friends. We go everywhere together. This rumor also spread on the street. Frankly we were pretty scared about this false accusation. Long story short, the detectives already know about this and have straightened out this false rumor. He doesn't know this guy Lorenzo. Locoman came once with his mom to the shop to get some quotations for parts for his Quad racer. that's it. We don't know locoman nor his following. Also we don't want to know anything about him. We stick to our motto "minding our own business."


Peeps
He's 26. The same as me. He's the same person. Maxito = Little Max in papiamento. A childhood name that got stuck till now. I just notified one of the detectives again about this piece, just in case some false accusations come up. Just taking precautions. If there are more questions I can answer them as far as I can. You can put a separate thread or something or email.


Peeps
I wouldn't know if Joran has a lot of friends or not. You have to take personal sites like Tickle, Hi5, Myspace with a tiny grain of salt. Everyone on that site are the best friends, the kindest people, the best personalities, the biggest pimps, the sharpest girls, a whole lotta hoopla. It's a big game of distraction and illusions.
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« Reply #751 on: November 14, 2006, 01:02:46 AM »

I don't know how these streets and addresses work in Aruba.  So I will need help here.  If anyone knows email Klaas and she will forward to my email.
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« Reply #752 on: November 14, 2006, 01:02:52 AM »

Klaas-

Google earth returned something but I am unsure if it's just a central point of ref on Aruba or that address? It won't tell me  Laughing
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« Reply #753 on: November 14, 2006, 01:03:19 AM »

Nice Work Here

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=539

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« Reply #754 on: November 14, 2006, 01:03:29 AM »

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no I don't wear the crown jewels so I don't qualify  Laughing  Cool

 Laughing  And there ya have it.

That's gonna gas up *somebodys* tank for another few weeks.
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« Reply #755 on: November 14, 2006, 01:03:53 AM »

Didn't Dave say in his book that Jacobs had crossed out Lorenzo as a suspect ( on a map on the the office wall ) for no apparent reason that was offered other than to say, "he has an alibi"??
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« Reply #756 on: November 14, 2006, 01:05:05 AM »

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Peeps
I am the owner of Boost Unit website and the webmaster of the speedshop. I don't know what your deal is with us or anything. We don't have nor want anything to do with some stupid teens, americans, dutch, surinam or any nationality whatsoever involved with this annoying case. We don't know that teen Joran nor his 3 chocolate factory buddies. They are not of our age bracket. We are some motorsports fans and that's all there is to it.


Peeps
knew about this site from the newspapers, plus its name is pretty "catchy". I got my monthly referrals report today (Aug 1) and what do I see? More than 50 referrals from the famous NH connected "scared monkeys". The purpose of this particular speculation forum is all good. I just don't want our names stickied on the internet,especially something that we have no part in. This is not the first time that somebody wants to connect us with the fatass dutchy. I did a typo, I meant 2 chocolate buddies.


Peeps
Maxito is one of my best friends. We go everywhere together. This rumor also spread on the street. Frankly we were pretty scared about this false accusation. Long story short, the detectives already know about this and have straightened out this false rumor. He doesn't know this guy Lorenzo. Locoman came once with his mom to the shop to get some quotations for parts for his Quad racer. that's it. We don't know locoman nor his following. Also we don't want to know anything about him. We stick to our motto "minding our own business."


Peeps
He's 26. The same as me. He's the same person. Maxito = Little Max in papiamento. A childhood name that got stuck till now. I just notified one of the detectives again about this piece, just in case some false accusations come up. Just taking precautions. If there are more questions I can answer them as far as I can. You can put a separate thread or something or email.


Peeps
I wouldn't know if Joran has a lot of friends or not. You have to take personal sites like Tickle, Hi5, Myspace with a tiny grain of salt. Everyone on that site are the best friends, the kindest people, the best personalities, the biggest pimps, the sharpest girls, a whole lotta hoopla. It's a big game of distraction and illusions.


And yet he goes to his parties and provides an alibi for him to ALE...now what is wrong with this picture? Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #757 on: November 14, 2006, 01:05:23 AM »

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Nice Work Here

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=539

Hammer bows low in respect.  

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come join us, we've missed you hammer
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« Reply #758 on: November 14, 2006, 01:06:00 AM »

VMS ~ that's great! TKU
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« Reply #759 on: November 14, 2006, 01:06:28 AM »

Thanks vms.....
This  is a very interesting post of Peeps.
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Peeps
Maxito is one of my best friends. We go everywhere together.
This rumor also spread on the street. Frankly we were pretty scared about this false accusation. Long story short, the detectives already know about this and have straightened out this false rumor. He doesn't know this guy Lorenzo. Locoman came once with his mom to the shop to get some quotations for parts for his Quad racer. that's it. We don't know locoman nor his following. Also we don't want to know anything about him. We stick to our motto "minding our own business."
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