Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
April 24, 2024, 05:24:07 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006 (Read 118579 times)
0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.
2NJSons_Mom
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 11324
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #460 on:
November 13, 2006, 04:54:31 PM »
AZLady, I'm no expert, but your translation makes sense.
Logged
R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!
I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
SOMEONE KNOWS THE TRUTH
None of us here just fell off the turnip truck. - Magnolia
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 15883
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #461 on:
November 13, 2006, 04:57:05 PM »
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html
Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.
From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."
Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"
?
Yes.
SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:
"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”
Logged
NM
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 1262
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #462 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:05:38 PM »
thanks Bleached!!
Logged
Glenda wrote: "aruba's job was not to babysit Beth's daughter. Beth sent her daughter to swim with the sharks, she is responsible for what ever happened to Natalee." = there is no homicide in aruba, only SUICIDE. Don't go to aruba if you value your life.
bleachedblack
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7607
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #463 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:07:00 PM »
San wrote;
Quote
Yes.
SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:
"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”
There were others who also made comments about Jorans strange personality/affect. I think it was Dompig who said something about his ability to make himself seem like "gods gift to mother-inlaws" or something like that. Then an FBI member who viewed some part of Jorans interrogations made a comment about him being the
strangest
(not sure if that is the exact word used ) suspect he had ever witnessed.
Logged
".......O you who love clear edges
more than anything ...... watch the edges that blur"
robots
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8515
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #464 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:08:20 PM »
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html
Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.
From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."
Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"
?
Yes.
SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:
"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”
he was CHOKING her.........
k2 are weasels that saw it happen
Logged
Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.
- A Horse's Tale
bleachedblack
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7607
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #465 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:12:29 PM »
"Dompig is also quoted as saying van der Sloot, the prime suspect, struck Aruban authorities and the FBI as the type of guy who was a "mother-in-law's God's gift."
"I don't know," Twitty said. "But I remember specifically in a meeting (with authorities that) they were saying this is the most unusual man they had ever dealt with. They had never seen anyone who has just refused to cooperate with the authorities. He really toyed with them during the interrogations, and quite often would place his fingers in his ears and just refuse to speak."
http://tinyurl.com/yyswg2
Logged
".......O you who love clear edges
more than anything ...... watch the edges that blur"
Kat_Gram
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7018
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #466 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:15:11 PM »
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html
Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.
From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."
Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"
?
Yes.
SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:
"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”
he was CHOKING her.........
k2 are weasels that saw it happen
I sort of thought that as soon as they got away from C & C's on a deserted road, he attacked her in a sexual way. And not French Kissing.
When you read his statement, he KNEW she wanted to have sex with him just by her body language. Holy, one of those kind of perverts. A girl smiles at him or is friendly and she wants sex ? Poor Natalee.
Logged
bleachedblack
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7607
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #467 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:19:55 PM »
You are right
Kat_Gram
. There has to be something psychiatrically wrong with the guy. I don't know if he's a pervert or on what level it is......but simply the fact that Natalee is still missing, and he has gone all this time with it on his conscience-the act of the matter is he has no conscience, and has done nothing but lie. A true sociopath......
Logged
".......O you who love clear edges
more than anything ...... watch the edges that blur"
robots
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 8515
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #468 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:23:06 PM »
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html
Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.
From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."
Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"
?
Yes.
SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:
"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”
he was CHOKING her.........
k2 are weasels that saw it happen
I sort of thought that as soon as they got away from C & C's on a deserted road, he attacked her in a sexual way. And not French Kissing.
When you read his statement, he KNEW she wanted to have sex with him just by her body language. Holy, one of those kind of perverts. A girl smiles at him or is friendly and she wants sex ? Poor Natalee.
yep, when the K brother said "joran is crazy"
he was referring to something that was hurting Natalee
simple as pie
Logged
Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.
- A Horse's Tale
igsigs
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2736
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #469 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:25:52 PM »
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Sorry forgot to post my comment about this psot brought over from BFN. I saw it shortly after it was posted, and recall qanother poster from there refering to Espionage as
MIP6
. so for what it's worth....he may have adopted an alias after the recent blog discussions about him. Not sure how he might have any info and be able to say anything about
Looking to the southwest
or whatever.......
FWIW...here is the exchange;
espionage
posted >> There is a secluded location on the southwestern portion of the island that needs exploration.
MIP6
responds >> It's being checked "Robert".
igsigs
responds >> Being checked? Is this a new lead or tip?
ALL 3 posts then removed.
Logged
bleachedblack
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7607
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #470 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:32:31 PM »
Can't understand the posts being removed. That doesn't sit well with me, among other things....
Logged
".......O you who love clear edges
more than anything ...... watch the edges that blur"
Kat_Gram
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7018
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #471 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:35:30 PM »
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Can't understand the posts being removed. That doesn't sit well with me, among other things....
Well, who could remove the posts ?
Logged
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 15883
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #472 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:41:07 PM »
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html
Here is a description of sociopath.
Many of the points fit Joran. By his own admission.
From the article referenced above:
In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity."
Wasn't it Satish who said in his statement that "Joran is crazy"
?
Yes.
SATISH'S 6/24/05 STATEMENT:
"then I saw this and I said to Deepak, Joran is crazy”
he was CHOKING her.........
k2 are weasels that saw it happen
Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her. I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face). This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away. Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal. I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.
There is no reason to hide if you are innocent. He is as violent as they come. Bo Dietel said he had evil in him.
Logged
bleachedblack
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7607
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #473 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:41:33 PM »
Well anyone can delete their own posts for one thing. But then if the post was quoted by another poster...say in a follow-up, which was the case here....it should have remained. It didn't I checked. So, 1) each poster had to delete their post. 2) poster could have written to moderator and asked for post(s) to be deleted. 3) moderator/admin could delete posts as they see fit.
Logged
".......O you who love clear edges
more than anything ...... watch the edges that blur"
LilPuma
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2922
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #474 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:44:13 PM »
Just a quick check-in to see if anything is happening. I've been at the razor-wire factory today (Criminal Court) for jury duty. Not on a jury, but I'm tired and sore. I did earn $17.20 though!
Odd that those posts were removed.
I'll have to read back a bit after dinner. Good to see the monkeys are at their posts and hard at work!
Logged
Our deeds are seeds and by them, we plant the world we will walk through tomorrow
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 15883
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #475 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:45:28 PM »
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
You are right
Kat_Gram
. There has to be something psychiatrically wrong with the guy. I don't know if he's a pervert or on what level it is......but simply the fact that Natalee is still missing, and he has gone all this time with it on his conscience-the act of the matter is he has no conscience, and has done nothing but lie. A true sociopath......
I agree and Paulus and Anita help him think he did nothing wrong. They built this mad man up even more. He is a danger to society.
Logged
bleachedblack
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7607
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #476 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:46:07 PM »
San wrote;
Quote
Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her. I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face). This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away. Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal. I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.
I personally think they used the GHB as a chemical way of restraining Natalee. Remember this is their MO, at least 20 times before......they drove around and let the drugs take full effect.
Logged
".......O you who love clear edges
more than anything ...... watch the edges that blur"
LilPuma
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2922
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #477 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:46:33 PM »
Quote from: San
Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her. I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face). This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away. Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal. I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.
There is no reason to hide if you are innocent. He is as violent as they come.
Bo Dietel said he had evil in him.
I agree with Bo. Something wrong with that boy IMO.
Logged
Our deeds are seeds and by them, we plant the world we will walk through tomorrow
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 15883
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #478 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:48:38 PM »
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
San wrote;
Quote
Yes I agree he either could have been choking her or hitting her. I believe she fought back and got a few good shots in (scratches/bruise on his face). This is one of the reasons they needed to give him 10 days because he needed the marks to go away. Dr. Baden mentioned this on Greta one evening that he had the scratches and 10 days was enough time for him to heal. I remember the first picture of Joran in the police car and he was hiding his face with a towel.
I personally think they used the GHB as a chemical way of restraining Natalee. Remember this is their MO, at least 20 times before......they drove around and let the drugs take full effect.
Oh with out a doubt she was drugged.
Logged
bleachedblack
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 7607
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
«
Reply #479 on:
November 13, 2006, 05:49:14 PM »
I know it is so sad........
Logged
".......O you who love clear edges
more than anything ...... watch the edges that blur"
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Lively Case Discussion #542 11/11 - 11/14/2006
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...