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« on: June 04, 2009, 03:17:15 PM »

I think he needs his own vine, eh?
Any monkeys that want to bring over here, to this vine, what we already have for Lane Lawless would be swell!
Looks like the devil himself...
     Pastor Clifford Lane Lawless


# Name: Lane LAWLESS
# Given Name: Lane
# Surname: Lawless
# Sex: M

Father: George Webster LAWLESS b: 28 Apr 1892 in Fremont,Dodge,NB
Mother: Jessie DICUS

Marriage 1 Living UNKNOWN
Children
   1. Has No Children Living LAWLESS
   2. Has No Children Living LAWLESS
   3. Has No Children Living LAWLESS
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 03:20:31 PM »



ok july 9 1960 CLL and Connie were married in modesto, stanislaus county california.  this came from the clover road baptist church website early on before they changed the site.
I  thought it weird he was baptised the very same day in washinton.  why would he get baptised in washington and then all the way to modesto, cali the same day and get married? I had thought the date was a mistake on either the baptism date or the marriage date. 

but, why is there no birth record for clifford lane lawless?  why is there no marriage record in california for connie L harris and clifford lane lawless.  it is a confidential marriage?  modesto is in stanislaus county.  CLL was also suppose to have pastored the church there in the airport district. 

Is this even his real name?  I am really beginning to wonder !
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 03:21:59 PM »

LAWLESS, CLIFFORD LANE (Age 67)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, LANE C
 LAWLESS, LANE L
 LAWLESS, LANE PASTR
 LAWLOR, LANE


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TRACY, CA
SAN JOSE, CA
LIVERMORE, CA    

Possible Relatives:

HUGHES, JONI IRENE (Age 41)
LAWLESS, CLANE (Age 31)
LAWLESS, LANE PASTR
LAWLESS, PSTR LANE
LAWLESS, CONNIE L (Age 67)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CHAMMISA, CHERYL (Age 47)
CHAMMISA, JEFF
MARTINEZ, PORFIRIO

PALERMO, CHERYL L (Age 46)

Associated names:

CAMMISA, CHERYL L
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BUTLER, PA
MAUMEE, OH    

Possible Relatives:
CAMMISA, GARY LEE (Age 51)
PALERMO, RONALD L (Age 45)

Just putting it out there...Chammisa...
notice the H is missing in the second C(h)ammisa
Something seems odd!
Also, I wonder if this Cheryl is connected to the "owner" Cheryl of Lawless Roofing on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass, OR???
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 03:23:02 PM »

also he is suppose to be at the clarkston/lewiston church and he is on no records there either.  and just because his brother is on miliatry records with the lawless name, does not mean he is a lawless at all.  I have seen people on military records under names that are different than there birth records.  same with SS# records, back then they can be wrong.  You could sign up for ss card under a name not yours, and you could put whatever name when joining the military.  I have seen it happen.  maybe he was born under another name?  maybe george lawless and jessie dicus was not his real parents? 
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2009, 03:24:06 PM »

It appears CL is the reason for a lot of the big questions.

List of unanswered questions:
1. birth record
2. milatary record
3. why and how would he be friends with a boy 10 years younger (that was mine, lol)
4. two places at the same time (washington being baptised and california getting married)
5. minister after 4 months of studying
6. people associated with him. (connie, his mom, his dad)

Please add to this list if I missed anything. I think if we answer these questions we will be able to link things. That time line really says a lot. It is like they made up this history. If there is no milatary record, maybe he was somewhere else? did anyone defect during the korean war? Where would they go? Canada? Where is his brother? Maybe he is his brother and assumed the name Clifford? How old was his brother? Has a side by side comparison of CL and his brother been done?
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2009, 03:25:00 PM »

one more thing, CLL was 29 when he is married.  so could he have been married before this under some other name? does he have other children by someone else?
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 03:27:38 PM »

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Father of the Pastor:

George Webster LAWLESS
# Given Name: George Webster
# Surname: Lawless
# Sex: M
# Birth: 28 Apr 1892 in Fremont,Dodge,NB
# Death: 11 Nov 1969 in ,,WA
# Burial: Brewster,Okanogan,WA,Brewster Cem.
# Endowment: 7 Mar 1990 Temple: SE
# Sealing Child: 23 Feb 1990 Temple: SE
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Father: James H. LAWLESS b: 15 May 1865/1866 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA
Mother: Nancy Hanse ROWLAND b: 5 Jan 1865 in Glasgow,Barron,KY

Marriage 1 Jessie DICUS
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 03:29:18 PM »

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The Pastor's Mother:

 Jessie DICUS
# Given Name: Jessie
# Surname: Dicus
# Sex: F

Marriage 1 George Webster LAWLESS b: 28 Apr 1892 in Fremont,Dodge,NB

Children

   1. Has No Children Paul LAWLESS b: 24 Jan 1927 in Brewster,Okanogon,Washington
   2. Has Children Lane LAWLESS
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 03:37:48 PM »

The Pastor's Family Tree:


                                             /Dennis LAWLESS b: Abt 1730
                                     /Thomas Byrd LAWLESS b: Abt 1759
                                     |       \Margaret SWANSON
                             /Thomas LAWLESS b: Abt 1796
                             |       \Susannah THOMAS
                     /McNealy A. [Mack] LAWLESS b: 16 Feb 1846 d: 12 Oct 1908
                     |       |               /William KEATON
                     |       |       /William KEATON b: 1785/1787 d: Bef 1870
                     |       \Zelphe_Zina [Zentha] KEATON b: Abt 1809
                     |               \Anna HAILE b: Abt 1780 d: 8 Mar 1860
             /James H. LAWLESS b: 15 May 1865/1866 d: Nov 1945
             |       |               /John NICHOLAS
             |       |       /George W. NICHOLAS b: 20 Sep 1819
             |       |       |       \Alice MACHEN
             |       \Sarah Ann NICHOLAS b: 6 Jul 1842 d: 27 Jan 1914
             |               |               /Jacob WARNER
             |               |       /Daniel WARNER b: 26 Mar 1796 d: 28 Jan 1872
             |               \Marry M. WARNER b: 1822
             |                       \Lydia COOK b: 28 May 1803 d: 16 Nov 1870
     /George Webster LAWLESS b: 28 Apr 1892 d: 11 Nov 1969
     |       |                               /John ROWLAND b: 1662 =>
     |       |                       /John ROWLAND b: 1730 d: 1 Feb 1817
     |       |                       |       \Elizabeth HAMPTON b: 1666
     |       |               /Wade Hampton ROWLAND b: 1804 d: 29 Aug 1846
     |       |               |       \Eunice (Enos) STURGEON d: Bef 1835
     |       |       /George Washington ROWLAND b: 1826 d: 1890
     |       |       |       |               /James MURPHY
     |       |       |       |       /Clement MURPHY b: 1765 d: May 1832
     |       |       |       |       |       \Elizabeth ENGLISH
     |       |       |       \Winnefred MURPHY b: 1804 d: Aug 1846
     |       |       |               |       /Ambrose JONES b: Abt 1735 =>
     |       |       |               \Mary Anne JONES
     |       |       |                       \Winifred DUNN =>
     |       \Nancy Hanse ROWLAND b: 5 Jan 1865 d: 9 Dec 1945
     |               |                       /Callam BAILEY b: 3 Nov 1720 d: 9 Aug 1787 =>
     |               |               /Callum Holman BAILEY b: 1 Jan 1749 d: 30 Dec 1842
     |               |               |       \Susannah HOLMAN b: 15 Aug 1721 d: Bef 4 Jun 1761 =>
     |               |       /William Taylor BAILEY b: 10 Sep 1799 d: 2 Sep 1868
     |               |       |       |       /John GILLIAM b: 12 Jun 1733/1736 d: 14 Sep 1794 =>
     |               |       |       \Judith Ann GILLIAM b: 4 Aug 1759 d: 1831
     |               |       |               \Sarah FERRIS b: Abt 1740 d: Abt 1807 =>
     |               \Martha Emaline BAILEY b: 2 Apr 1839
     |                       |               /Joseph SPENCER
     |                       |       /Samuel N. SPENCER b: 20 Aug 1772 d: Bef 1841
     |                       \Nancy SPENCER b: 29 Oct 1802
     |                               |       /John BAGBY b: 14 Apr 1755 d: Feb 1835 =>
     |                               \Susannah BAGBY b: 17 Apr 1778
     |                                       \Mildred UNKNOWN b: 18 May 1754 d: Nov 1823
Lane LAWLESS
     \Jessie DICUS

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2009, 03:44:26 PM »

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 1

1.   Lane LAWLESS. He was the son of 2. George Webster LAWLESS and 3. Jessie DICUS. He married Living UNKNOWN.
    
   

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2

2.   George Webster LAWLESS was born 28 Apr 1892 in Fremont,Dodge,NB, and died 11 Nov 1969 in ,,WA. He was buried in Brewster,Okanogan,WA,Brewster Cem.. He was the son of 4. James H. LAWLESS and 5. Nancy Hanse ROWLAND.

3.   Jessie DICUS.
    
   

Children of Jessie DICUS and George Webster LAWLESS are:
      i.   Paul LAWLESS was born 24 Jan 1927 in Brewster,Okanogon,Washington.
1.     ii.   Lane LAWLESS. He married Living UNKNOWN.


Ahnentafel, Generation No. 3

4.   James H. LAWLESS was born 15 May 1865/1866 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA, and died Nov 1945 in ,,MO. He was the son of 8. McNealy A. [Mack] LAWLESS and 9. Sarah Ann NICHOLAS.

5.   Nancy Hanse ROWLAND was born 5 Jan 1865 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, and died 9 Dec 1945 in Omak,Okanogan,WA. She was buried 12 Dec 1945 in Brewster,Okanogan,WA,Brewster Cem.. She was the daughter of 10. George Washington ROWLAND and 11. Martha Emaline BAILEY.
    

Children of Nancy Hanse ROWLAND and James H. LAWLESS are:
      i.   Mabel Pearl LAWLESS was born 14 Feb 1891 in Tecumseh,Johnson,NB, and died 6 Nov 1959 in Brewster,Okanogan,WA. She married Leland HALEY.
2.     ii.   George Webster LAWLESS was born 28 Apr 1892 in Fremont,Dodge,NB, and died 11 Nov 1969 in ,,WA. He married Jessie DICUS.
      iii.   John Mack LAWLESS was born 23 Nov 1893 in York,York,NB, and died 6 Feb 1965 in ,,Cal..
      iv.   Zina Ellen LAWLESS was born 15 Oct 1895 in ,,NB, and died 22 Jul 1897 in ,,NB.
      v.   William Bryan LAWLESS was born 31 Aug 1897 in ,,NB, and died 15 Aug 1975 in Brewster,Okanogan,WA. He married Gladys THAYER. She was born in Brewster,Okanogan,WA.
      vi.   Ralph Devere LAWLESS was born 1 Jan 1902 in ,,NB, and died 23 May 1963 in Brewster,Okanogan,WA.
      vii.   Agnes Ada LAWLESS was born 17 Mar 1904 in Chelan,Chelan,WA, and died 10 Aug 1976 in Soap Lake,,WA. She married James Levi TURNER 1921 in Washington.
      viii.   Richard Birdette LAWLESS was born 22 Mar 1910 in Wenatchee,Chelan,Washington, and died 26 May 1962 in Brewster,Okanogan,Wash.. He married Bette June GRIMES 31 Dec 1945 in Pateros,Okanogan,Wash., daughter of Paul Jonathan GRIMES and Florence Lucile SHEPARD. She was born 27 Jun 1923 in Albion,Carter,Montana. He married Wilma (Toots) HOLT 1936 in Seattle,,WA.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 4

8.   McNealy A. [Mack] LAWLESS was born 16 Feb 1846 in ,Patrick,VA, and died 12 Oct 1908 in Peru,Miami,Ind.. He was buried in Sprinkle Chaprl,Cem.,Cass Co. Ind.. He was the son of 16. Thomas LAWLESS and 17. Zelphe_Zina [Zentha] KEATON.

9.   Sarah Ann NICHOLAS was born 6 Jul 1842 in ,Patrick County,VA., and died 27 Jan 1914 in Peru,Miami,Ind.. She was buried in Sprinkle Chaple,Cem.,Cass Co.,Ind.. She was the daughter of 18. George W. NICHOLAS and 19. Marry M. WARNER.
    
   

Children of Sarah Ann NICHOLAS and McNealy A. [Mack] LAWLESS are:
4.     i.   James H. LAWLESS was born 15 May 1865/1866 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA, and died Nov 1945 in ,,MO. He married Nancy Hanse ROWLAND 14 May 1890 in Tecumseh,Johnson,NB, daughter of George Washington ROWLAND and Martha Emaline BAILEY. She was born 5 Jan 1865 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, and died 9 Dec 1945 in Omak,Okanogan,WA.
      ii.   Minnie LAWLESS was born 1870 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA. She married W. ELLIS in ,Patrick,VA.
      iii.   Walter R. LAWLESS was born 1873 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA. He married Evalena HOUSOUER 2 Jun 1902.
      iv.   Lillie LAWLESS was born 1875 in 1876, and died 1876.
      v.   Franklin C. LAWLESS was born 1878 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA, and died 26 Sep 1938. He married Margaret A. BLUE 12 Jan 1901.
      vi.   Violet Hazel LAWLESS was born 6 Sep 1886 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA, and died in ,,FL. She married Charles P. KOPP 3 Jun 1907.

10.   George Washington ROWLAND was born 1826 in ,,KY, and died 1890 in Glasgow,Barron,KY. He was the son of 20. Wade Hampton ROWLAND and 21. Winnefred MURPHY.

11.   Martha Emaline BAILEY was born 2 Apr 1839 in Glasgow,Barren,KY, and died in Glasgow,Barron,KY. She was the daughter of 22. William Taylor BAILEY and 23. Nancy SPENCER.
    
   

Children of Martha Emaline BAILEY and George Washington ROWLAND are:
      i.   Mary Susan ROWLAND was born 1858 in ,Barron,KY. She married Ashel C. EUBANK 1877.
      ii.   Alice Hall ROWLAND was born 1858 in ,Barron,KY, and died in Protection,,Kan.. She married Howard M. EUBANK 1877.
      iii.   William Wade ROWLAND was born 1859 in ,Barron,KY, and died Oct 1931. He married Pittsy UNKNOWN.
      iv.   Joseph B. ROWLAND was born 1861 in ,Barron,KY, and died in Enid,,Okla.. He married Lettie UNKNOWN.
      v.   LUCY Ann ROWLAND was born 6 Sep 1863 in ,Barron,KY, and died 4 Sep 1932. She married Moses E. WILBORN 6 Sep 1883.
5.     vi.   Nancy Hanse ROWLAND was born 5 Jan 1865 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, and died 9 Dec 1945 in Omak,Okanogan,WA. She married James H. LAWLESS 14 May 1890 in Tecumseh,Johnson,NB, son of McNealy A. [Mack] LAWLESS and Sarah Ann NICHOLAS. He was born 15 May 1865/1866 in Rockspring,Patrick,VA, and died Nov 1945 in ,,MO.
      vii.   Minnie Lee ROWLAND was born 1868 in ,Barron,KY.
      viii.   John C. ROWLAND was born May 1869 in ,Barron,KY, and died in Los Angles,,Cal.. He married Mary A. O`BANION.
      ix.   Grant ROWLAND was born 2 Jan 1870 in ,Barron,KY, and died 7 Feb 1955 in Inglefield,,Ind..
      x.   James T. ROWLAND was born 1871 in ,Barron,KY, and died in Thomas,,Okla.. He married May UNKNOWN.
      xi.   Judah I. ROWLAND was born 29 Aug 1873 in ,Barron,KY, and died 22 Aug 1945. She married William L. GOELLER 5 Jan 1892. He was born 19 Jan 1865, and died 2 Apr 1953.
      xii.   Martha Bell ROWLAND was born 1876 in ,Barron,KY. She married Charles PETERSON.
      xiii.   Genie Pearl ROWLAND was born 1878 in ,Barron,KY, and died 18 Mar 1951 in ,,Cal.. She married Jay MCKIBBEN.
      xiv.   Clement H. ROWLAND was born 1880 in ,Barron,KY, and died 1902 in ,,Kan..

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 5

16.   Thomas LAWLESS was born Abt 1796. He was the son of 32. Thomas Byrd LAWLESS and 33. Susannah THOMAS.

17.   Zelphe_Zina [Zentha] KEATON was born Abt 1809 in ,,VA. She was the daughter of 34. William KEATON and 35. Anna HAILE.
    
   

Children of Zelphe_Zina [Zentha] KEATON and Thomas LAWLESS are:
      i.   Francis Marion LAWLESS was born 16 Apr 1830 in ,Patrick,Virginia, and died 8 Aug 1862 in Camp Windsor,Civil War,Richmond,VA. He married unknown UNKNOWN 11 Feb 1857 in ,Patrick,VA.
      ii.   George Washington LAWLESS was born May 1833 in Patrick Co. Va., and died Aft 1902. He married Rosanna M. WASHBURN 13 Apr 1830.
      iii.   Andrew Jackson LAWLESS was born 4 May 1834 in Patrick Co. Va., and died 16 May 1864 in Civil War,Bunker Hill,Drury,s Bluff Battle. He married Harriet MCGHEE 2 Jan 1862.
      iv.   Louisa LAWLESS was born Abt 1835 in Patrick Co. VA. She married James l PEDIGO 9 Dec 1860 in Patrick Co.,VA. He was born 29 Nov 1829/1837.
      v.   Thomas Jefferson LAWLESS was born 15 Aug 1840 in Patrick Co. Va.. He married Sally Aashby EARLES 2 Mar 1862.
8.     vi.   McNealy A. [Mack] LAWLESS was born 16 Feb 1846 in ,Patrick,VA, and died 12 Oct 1908 in Peru,Miami,Ind.. He married Sarah Ann NICHOLAS 1864 in Patrick,,VA, daughter of George W. NICHOLAS and Marry M. WARNER. She was born 6 Jul 1842 in ,Patrick County,VA., and died 27 Jan 1914 in Peru,Miami,Ind..
      vii.   Susannah H. LAWLESS was born Abt 1847 in Patrick Co. Va.. She married Samual ROGERS 15 Jan 1871 in Patrick Co VA. He was born Abt 1852.

18.   George W. NICHOLAS was born 20 Sep 1819 in Pembroke,Pembroke,Wales. He was the son of 36. John NICHOLAS and 37. Alice MACHEN.

19.   Marry M. WARNER was born 1822 in ,,VA. She was the daughter of 38. Daniel WARNER and 39. Lydia COOK.
    
   

Children of Marry M. WARNER and George W. NICHOLAS are:
9.     i.   Sarah Ann NICHOLAS was born 6 Jul 1842 in ,Patrick County,VA., and died 27 Jan 1914 in Peru,Miami,Ind.. She married McNealy A. [Mack] LAWLESS 1864 in Patrick,,VA, son of Thomas LAWLESS and Zelphe_Zina [Zentha] KEATON. He was born 16 Feb 1846 in ,Patrick,VA, and died 12 Oct 1908 in Peru,Miami,Ind..
      ii.   Henry NICHOLAS was born 1843 in Fall Creek TWP,Henry Co. IN..
      iii.   James NICHOLAS was born 1844 in Fall Creek TWP,Henry Co. IN..
      iv.   Lydia NICHOLAS was born 1845 in Fall Creek TWP,Henry Co. IN..
      v.   Andrew NICHOLAS was born 1847 in Fall Creek TWP,Henrey Co. In..
      vi.   David NICHOLAS was born 1849 in Fall Creek TWP,Henrey Co. In..

20.   Wade Hampton ROWLAND was born 1804 in ,Henry,VA, and died 29 Aug 1846 in ,,KY. He was the son of 40. John ROWLAND and 41. Eunice (Enos) STURGEON.

21.   Winnefred MURPHY was born 1804 in Henry Co.,VA, and died Aug 1846 in Cumberland Co.,KY. She was the daughter of 42. Clement MURPHY and 43. Mary Anne JONES.
    
   

Children of Winnefred MURPHY and Wade Hampton ROWLAND are:
10.     i.   George Washington ROWLAND was born 1826 in ,,KY, and died 1890 in Glasgow,Barron,KY. He married Polly UNKNOWN. He married Martha Emaline BAILEY 15 Nov 1856 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, daughter of William Taylor BAILEY and Nancy SPENCER. She was born 2 Apr 1839 in Glasgow,Barren,KY, and died in Glasgow,Barron,KY.
      ii.   James C. ROWLAND was born 1830 in ,Cumberland,KY. He married Mary E. UNKNOWN.
      iii.   Thomas J. ROWLAND was born 1832 in ,Cumberland,KY. He married Laura T. UNKNOWN.
      iv.   John H. ROWLAND was born 1832 in ,Cumberland,KY. He married Sarah UNKNOWN.
      v.   Polina J. ROWLAND was born 1834 in ,Cumberland,KY. She married William M. YOUNG.
      vi.   Martha J. ROWLAND was born 1837 in ,Cumberland,KY. She married UNKNOWN GRIGGS.
      vii.   Mary S. ROWLAND was born 1840 in ,Cumberland,KY. She married A. J. GARMON.
      viii.   LUCY Ann ROWLAND was born 1842 in ,Cumberland,KY. She married Lewis TURNER.

22.   William Taylor BAILEY was born 10 Sep 1799 in ,Goochland Co.,VA, and died 2 Sep 1868 in ,Barron,KY. He was the son of 44. Callum Holman BAILEY and 45. Judith Ann GILLIAM.

23.   Nancy SPENCER was born 29 Oct 1802 in VA. She was the daughter of 46. Samuel N. SPENCER and 47. Susannah BAGBY.
    
   

Children of Nancy SPENCER and William Taylor BAILEY are:
      i.   Susan America. BAILEY was born 1824/1825 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, and died 1881 in Burton,Wilson,KS. She married William H. GLOVER 23 Jun 1842 in Glasgow,Barren,KY. He was born 1813 in KY.
      ii.   John Gilliam BAILEY was born 26 Jul 1826 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, and died 26 Feb 1919. He married Elizabeth Gilliam PERKINS 26 Nov 1846 in Glasgow,Barren,KY.
      iii.   Ann Thenia BAILEY was born 1829 in Glasgow,Barron,KY. She married William DEPP 12 Feb 1851 in Glasgow,Barren,KY, son of Peter DEPP and Mary Hanson COURTS. He was born Abt 1820.
      iv.   Callum Hollman BAILEY was born 5 Jul 1832 in ,Barron,KY, and died 24 Jun 1911. He married LUCY Kyrk SATER 1 May 1854 in Glasgow,Barren,KY. She was born 28 Feb 1837 in Glasgow,Barren,KY, and died 30 Sep 1830.
      v.   Nancy Jane BAILEY was born 1835 in Glasgow,Barron,KY. She married Joshua GARMAN 1859 in Barren Co.,KY. He was born Abt 1832 in KY.
      vi.   Mary M. BAILEY was born 11 Feb 1837 in Glasgow,Barren,KY. She married George FRANKLIN 2 Mar 1854 in ,Barren,KY. He was born 13 Dec 1832 in ,Cumberland,KY.
11.     vii.   Martha Emaline BAILEY was born 2 Apr 1839 in Glasgow,Barren,KY, and died in Glasgow,Barron,KY. She married George Washington ROWLAND 15 Nov 1856 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, son of Wade Hampton ROWLAND and Winnefred MURPHY. He was born 1826 in ,,KY, and died 1890 in Glasgow,Barron,KY.
      viii.   William Samuel Taylor BAILEY was born 22 Aug 1841 in Glasgow,Barron,KY, and died 15 Jun 1907/1908 in Elk City,Beckham,OK. He married Lavina Mobley TURNER 1868 in Kentucky. She was born 16 May 1844 in Woodburn,Barren,KY, and died 1916 in Elk City,Beckham,KY.

Ahnentafel, Generation No. 6

32.   Thomas Byrd LAWLESS was born Abt 1759 in Pittsylvania Co.,VA. He was the son of 64. Dennis LAWLESS and 65. Margaret SWANSON.

33.   Susannah THOMAS.
    
   

Children of Susannah THOMAS and Thomas Byrd LAWLESS are:
      i.   Dennis LAWLESS was born 1771/1791 in Halifax Co.,VA, and died 30 May 1859 in Mulberry,Henry,VA. He married Agnes DILLON 4 Mar 1792 in ,Henry Co. VA. She was born 1765 in VA.
      ii.   Augustine LAWLESS was born Abt 1790 in Pittsylvania Co.,VA..
16.     iii.   Thomas LAWLESS was born Abt 1796. He married Zelphe_Zina [Zentha] KEATON 10 Oct 1826 in _Patrick Co.,VA, daughter of William KEATON and Anna HAILE. She was born Abt 1809 in ,,VA. He married Polly SPENCER 10 Oct 1814 in Patrick Co.,VA., daughter of William SPENCER.
      iv.   Benjamin LAWLESS was born 1793 in Henry Co.,VA. He married Eliza BUNDREN 1824 in AL, daughter of Chaiborune BUNDREN and Mary UNKNOWN. She was born 1802 in VA.
      v.   William LAWLESS was born 1798 in Henry Co.,VA. He married Rebecca UNKNOWN. She was born 1798 in VA.
      vi.   Sarah Sally LAWLESS was born 1804 in Henry Co.,VA. She married Robert LEAKE 24 Feb 1822 in Henry Co.,VA.

34.   William KEATON was born 1785/1787, and died Bef 1870. He was the son of 68. William KEATON.

35.   Anna HAILE was born Abt 1780, and died 8 Mar 1860 in ,Patrick County,VA.
    
   

Children of Anna HAILE and William KEATON are:
17.     i.   Zelphe_Zina [Zentha] KEATON was born Abt 1809 in ,,VA. She married Thomas LAWLESS 10 Oct 1826 in _Patrick Co.,VA, son of Thomas Byrd LAWLESS and Susannah THOMAS. He was born Abt 1796.
      ii.   Tazewell KEATON was born Abt 1808 in Patrick County,VA. He married Sarah KEATON 12 Dec 1824 in Patrick County,VA. She was born Abt 1807 in Patrick County,VA.
      iii.   Mary KEATON was born Abt 1809 in ,Patrick County,VA. She married Anderson SHELTON 8 Sep 1840 in Patrick County,VA. He was born 8 Sep 1840 in Patrick County,VA.
      iv.   Jordon KEATON was born Abt 1811.
      v.   Pelina KEATON was born Abt 1815.
      vi.   Hansford KEATON was born Abt 1816 in Patrick County,VA, and died 29 Jun 1900 in ,Patrick County,VA.
      vii.   Madison KEATON was born 28 Apr 1819 in ,Patrick County,VA, and died 20 Dec 1864 in ,Elmira,New York. He married Jestin AYERS 2 Feb 1839 in Patrick County,VA. He married Sarah HUTTS 15 May 1849 in Patrick County,VA, daughter of Leonard HUTTS and Peggy FREEMAN. She was born 29 Oct 1829 in Patrick County,VA, and died 26 May 1913 in Greensboro,NC.
      viii.   Hiram KEATON was born Abt 1821 in Patrick County,VA, and died 9 Nov 1882 in Patrick County,VA.

36.   John NICHOLAS was born in ,,Wales.

37.   Alice MACHEN.
    
   

Child of Alice MACHEN and John NICHOLAS is:
18.     i.   George W. NICHOLAS was born 20 Sep 1819 in Pembroke,Pembroke,Wales. He married Marry M. WARNER 23 Aug 1840 in Henrey Co. India, daughter of Daniel WARNER and Lydia COOK. She was born 1822 in ,,VA.

38.   Daniel WARNER was born 26 Mar 1796 in ,,Pennsylvania, and died 28 Jan 1872 in Henry Co. IN.. He was the son of 76. Jacob WARNER.

39.   Lydia COOK was born 28 May 1803 in ,,Virginia, and died 16 Nov 1870 in ,Henry Co. Ind..
    
   

Children of Lydia COOK and Daniel WARNER are:
19.     i.   Marry M. WARNER was born 1822 in ,,VA. She married George W. NICHOLAS 23 Aug 1840 in Henrey Co. India, son of John NICHOLAS and Alice MACHEN. He was born 20 Sep 1819 in Pembroke,Pembroke,Wales.
      ii.   Lucinda WARNER was born in ,,Virginia.
      iii.   Peter WARNER was born 1826 in ,,Virginia, and died 30 Aug 1863 in Nashville,Tn. Civil War.
      iv.   William WARNER was born 1827 in ,,Virginia.
      v.   John WARNER was born 1829 in ,,Virginia.
      vi.   Edward WARNER was born 1830 in ,,Virginia.
      vii.   Andrew WARNER was born 1832 in ,,Virginia.
      viii.   Noah WARNER_W. was born 1834 in ,,Indiana, and died in Sulphur Springs,Jefferson,Ind..
      ix.   George_W. WARNER was born 1837 in ,,Indiana.
      x.   James_Polk WARNER was born 1844 in ,,Indiana.

40.   John ROWLAND was born 1730 in ,Knox,Tenn., and died 1 Feb 1817 in Henry Co.,VA. [maybe[. He was the son of 80. John ROWLAND and 81. Elizabeth HAMPTON.

41.   Eunice (Enos) STURGEON was born in ,Henry,VA, and died Bef 1835.
    
   

Children of Eunice (Enos) STURGEON and John ROWLAND are:
      i.   John Q. ROWLAND was born 1730 in ,,TN, and died 1829. He married Sarah UNKNOWN.
      ii.   Gilbert ROWLAND was born in ,,TN, and died 27 Nov 1827. He married Nancy SMILEY. He married Polly BAULDIN 24 Mar 1811.
      iii.   Archabald ROWLAND was born in ,,TN. He married Polly UNKNOWN.
      iv.   Washington ROWLAND was born in ,Henry,VA. He married Nancy BAULDIN 26 Aug 1815.
      v.   George H. ROWLAND was born in ,Knox,TN, and died 26 Nov 1823. He married LUCY MURPHY.
20.     vi.   Wade Hampton ROWLAND was born 1804 in ,Henry,VA, and died 29 Aug 1846 in ,,KY. He married Winnefred MURPHY Abt 1825 in ,Cumberland,KY, daughter of Clement MURPHY and Mary Anne JONES. She was born 1804 in Henry Co.,VA, and died Aug 1846 in Cumberland Co.,KY.
      vii.   Sally M. ROWLAND was born in ,,VA. She married Alexander HUNTER 9 Jan 1809 in Henry Co VA.
      viii.   Nancy ROWLAND was born in ,,VA. She married James T. HUTCHENS.
      ix.   Elizabeth ROWLAND was born in ,,VA, and died 5 Feb 1828. She married William HEARD? 12 Aug 1809.
      x.   Polina ROWLAND was born in ,,VA. She married Reuben ALEXANDER.

42.   Clement MURPHY was born 1765, and died May 1832 in Cumberland Co.,KY. He was the son of 84. James MURPHY and 85. Elizabeth ENGLISH.

43.   Mary Anne JONES. She was the daughter of 86. Ambrose JONES and 87. Winifred DUNN.
    
   

Children of Mary Anne JONES and Clement MURPHY are:
      i.   Joseph_T. MURPHY.
      ii.   Polly MURPHY. She married John RILEY.
      iii.   LUCY MURPHY was born 1798 in Patrick Co. Va.. She married Jeremiah FRANKLIN.
21.     iv.   Winnefred MURPHY was born 1804 in Henry Co.,VA, and died Aug 1846 in Cumberland Co.,KY. She married Adam J. GARMON. She married Wade Hampton ROWLAND Abt 1825 in ,Cumberland,KY, son of John ROWLAND and Eunice (Enos) STURGEON. He was born 1804 in ,Henry,VA, and died 29 Aug 1846 in ,,KY.
      v.   Elizabeth MURPHY. She married Ephraim BALL.

44.   Callum Holman BAILEY was born 1 Jan 1749 in Owens Creek,Louisa,VA, and died 30 Dec 1842 in ,Barron,KY. He was the son of 88. Callam BAILEY and 89. Susannah HOLMAN.

45.   Judith Ann GILLIAM was born 4 Aug 1759 in ,Goochland,VA, and died 1831 in ,Barron,KY. She was the daughter of 90. John GILLIAM and 91. Sarah FERRIS.
    
   

Children of Judith Ann GILLIAM and Callum Holman BAILEY are:
      i.   Elizabeth BAILEY was born 3 Apr 1776 in ,,Goochland Co. VA, and died Mar 1864 in ,Barron,Kentucky. She married Dabney SLAYTON 3 Apr 1800 in ,Goochland,Virginia, son of William SLAYTON and Sarah GROOM. He was born 22 Jun 1776 in ,,Virginia, and died 11 Dec 1811 in ,Barron,Kentucky.
      ii.   Callum Holman BAILEY was born 1782 in ,Goochland,Co.Va.
      iii.   John G. BAILEY was born 1782 in ,,Goochland,Co. VA. He married Elizabeth PERKINS 26 Apr 1846.
      iv.   Jesse BAILEY was born 1781 in ,,Goochland Co. VA.
      v.   Jacob G. BAILEY was born 25 Dec 1786 in ,,Goochland Co. VA, and died 27 Jul 1872. He married Catherine MADDOX 23 Dec 1813.
      vi.   Patsy T. BAILEY was born 1789 in ,Goochland Co.,VA. She married UNKNOWN FREEMAN.
      vii.   Sally F. BAILEY was born 1787 in ,Goochland Co. VA. She married Robert F. LANE 1815.
      viii.   Nancy BAILEY was born 1794 in ,,Goochland Co. VA. She married Robert or_Reuben SHIPLEY 26 Jul 1817.
22.     ix.   William Taylor BAILEY was born 10 Sep 1799 in ,Goochland Co.,VA, and died 2 Sep 1868 in ,Barron,KY. He married Nancy SPENCER 1 Mar 1824 in ,Barron,KY,Mt.Vernon Church, daughter of Samuel N. SPENCER and Susannah BAGBY. She was born 29 Oct 1802 in VA.
      x.   Susan BAILEY was born 1793 in ,,Goochland Co. VA. She married James LOYD 10 Jun 1820.
      xi.   Polly BAILEY was born 1800 in ,,Goochland Co. VA. She married Stephen LOYD 12 Jan 1822.

46.   Samuel N. SPENCER was born 20 Aug 1772, and died Bef 1841 in Glasgow,Barron,Kentucky. He was the son of 92. Joseph SPENCER.

47.   Susannah BAGBY was born 17 Apr 1778. She was the daughter of 94. John BAGBY and 95. Mildred UNKNOWN.
    
   

Children of Susannah BAGBY and Samuel N. SPENCER are:
      i.   Samuel SPENCER was born 21 Mar 1798 in Virginia.
      ii.   John Hansford SPENCER was born 2 May 1800, and died 26 Apr 1855. He married Drucilla DEAN 10 Jul 1837.
23.     iii.   Nancy SPENCER was born 29 Oct 1802 in VA. She married William Taylor BAILEY 1 Mar 1824 in ,Barron,KY,Mt.Vernon Church, son of Callum Holman BAILEY and Judith Ann GILLIAM. He was born 10 Sep 1799 in ,Goochland Co.,VA, and died 2 Sep 1868 in ,Barron,KY.
      iv.   Lucinda SPENCER was born 15 Apr 1804. She married Elias NICHOLS 1825.
      v.   William SPENCER was born 20 Jan 1806 in Tennessee. He married Elizabeth N. BISHOP 1 Sep 1825.
      vi.   James T. SPENCER was born 3 Apr 1808.
      vii.   Daniel SPENCER was born 28 Feb 1810, and died 1860 in Barren Co.,Kemtucky. He married Martha HILTOM 14 Jan 1833.
      viii.   Elizabeth SPENCER was born 10 Jun 1812. She married John BRODY 13 Jan 1834.
      ix.   Mildred SPENCER was born 18 Aug 1815, and died Abt 1892. She married George NICHOLS 3 May 1839.
      x.   George M. SPENCER was born 28 May 1817 in Glasgow,,Kentucky, and died 18 Nov 1877 in Fredonia,Wilson,Kansas. He married Isabella RENICK 13 Dec 1838 in Glasgow,Barren,Ky.. She was born 15 Jan 1817, and died 20 Apr 1904 in Fredonia,Wilson,Kansas.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 11:06:13 PM »

okay I might be wrong about this, but I have looked and looked and looked, in every state, all over.

there is no marriage record for clifford or lane lawless and connie harris. 
there is no birth record for any clifford or lane lawless that would fit CLL
there is no cali birth record for their son brian lane lawless
according to brian l lawless' marriage to judy a purks he is born about 1961

they are married in august of 1980 and he is 19, so if he were born in october of 1960 he had not had his 20th birthday yet so he would be 19 if this is him below...
the only cali birth I find even remotely at all that might be it would be:

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Lane B Lawless
Name: Lane B Lawless
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1960
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Baker  
Birth County: Los Angeles

so IF this is him, he has a different mother, eithe CLL had a baby with someoe else, or he is adopted and named the lawless name.  OR this is not him.  but then where is his birth record?  was he born out of state on a visit somewhere?

lets go see if julie lawless and brett lawless have a birth record



 
 
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 11:09:12 PM »

in previous post I meant joni and brett, not julie
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 11:23:27 PM »

I can't find a cali birth record for joni lawless

the only cali birth record I find for a brett lawless is this one:
again some other mother out of fresno, either this is not him, or this is him and something is very wrong again.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Brett E Lawless
Name: Brett E Lawless
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1966
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Hardin 
Birth County: Fresno 

let me try to find a marriage license for the right brett lawless and compare the birth dates, who did brett marry?
 
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 11:31:27 PM »

this is the brett e lawless in the previous post

LAWLESS, BRETT ELDON (Age 42)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, BRETT F
 LOWLESS, BRETT E
 CITRUS HEIGHTS, CA
LIMESTONE, ME
SACRAMENTO, CA
CLOVIS, CA
SPOKANE, WA
ANTELOPE, CA
BARKSDALE AFB, LA
BOSSIER CITY, LA
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
FAIRCHILD AFB, WA
MATHER AIR FORCE BASE, CA
Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, STACI MARIE (Age 41)
LAWLESS, BLAIR A (Age 41)
LAWLESS, RAYMOND G (Age 62)
LAWLESS, LINDA V (Age 25)
LOW, C A

Possible Roommates / Associates:

STACI, M LAWLESS




.  LAWLESS, BRETT E
 CITRUS HTS, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, STACI M 
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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 11:32:40 PM »

Name: Brett E Lawless
Birth Date: Jul 1966
Address: 216 Johnson Av, Mather Air Force Base, California 95655-0101 (1991)
[3466 Data Dr, Rancho Cordova, California 95670-1101 (1990)]
[Pob 2176 Psc 1, Mather Air Force Base, California 95655]
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 11:36:04 PM »

so the one above in the previous 2 posts is NOT THE RIGHT BRETT

HERE IS THE RIGHT ONE

LAKEWOOD, CA
WHITTIER, CA
BELLFLOWER, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MARY ELISABETH (Age 45)


 LAKEWOOD, CA
WHITTIER, CA
PARAMOUNT, CA
BELLFLOWER, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, BRETT ARTHUR (Age 45)
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SO.. where is the birth record for the right brett arthur lawless?

let me go look under that middle name.
 
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 11:40:09 PM »

for Francis Marion Lawless above
Child 1 Francis Marion Lawless
Born, 16 April, 1830, in Patrick County, Va
Died 8 August, 1862

Married 11 February, 1857, in Patrick County, Virginia

Cinthia  (Zenia)  J. Keaton
B 1836
   Child 1 Joseph H Lawless
   B 1860

DD, you might want to check out post #929 and also page 81 on Blink original.  It may have info you are looking for.  Also I believe Brett married a Mary Elizabeth, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2009, 11:42:11 PM »

yes he did marry a mary elizabeth, and these names and ages fit, but what are they doing getting married in minnesota?  was he in the military there?

Minnesota Marriage Collection, 1958-2001
about Brett A Lawless
Name: Brett A Lawless
Gender: Male 
Birth Date: abt 1964
Age: 23 
   
Spouse: Mary E Silseth
Gender: Female 
Spouse Birth Date: abt 1965
Spouse Age: 22 
   
Marriage Date: 2 May 1987
Filing Location (County): Hennepin 
State: Minnesota

do they have relatives there?
 
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 11:55:56 PM »

5.  CONSTANCE LORENE4 HARRIS (IRENE3 COOPER, EFFIE JOETTA2 SMITHSON, MARY E1 DODSON) was born August 06, 1941 in Monterey County, California, USA.  She married CLIFFORD "LANE" LAWLESS, son of GEORGE LAWLESS and JESSIE DICUS. 
   
Children of CONSTANCE HARRIS and CLIFFORD LAWLESS are:
   i.   BRETT5 LAWLESS.
7.   ii.   BRIAN L LAWLESS, b. 1961.
   iii.   JONI LAWLESS, m. HUGHES.

I look and cannot find a birth date of Clifford.
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