Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless

[Sister]

These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?

 

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I just can't get it to work!
 

ok, we are on the site for Sandra Cantu.  Blink established a thread.  Look in Blink's thread under comment number 369 and there is the newspaper article.  The only thing I can get is this

[lonemonkey]

These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?

 

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I just can't get it to work!
 

ok, we are on the site for Sandra Cantu.  Blink established a thread.  Look in Blink's thread under comment number 369 and there is the newspaper article.  The only thing I can get is this

Is this it, Sis??

369# Comment by Sacsayhuan — April 30, 2009 @ 10:21 am

ANOTHER EMAIL WORDS OF WISDOM FROM A FRIEND LIVING NEAR TRACY:

“It is a glaring coincidence at least that T. Lawless and Huckaby, face
similar charges, at the same essential time, and share a last name.

As of now, the efforts on Blink site have resulted in finding out that the Lawless family, has several sex offenders in its ranks, and is very connected to religion. Of course, one can say if any family is traced enough these types of connections or similar ones can occur. Soon, some report will be done by the Blink researchers which lays out all the Lawless Huckaby family history. Given that shrinks say molestation tends to be a multigenerational phenomena, this type of
data could shed light onthe Cantu case.

Whether or not a familial connection exists between Melissa Huckaby and Timothy Lawless — who knows.

Because Folsom, where T. Lawless lives is only a one hour drive to Tracy, and because Huckaby described herself on her website as a “party organizer”, and she appeared to have several male friends in Tracy, it is possible that this group of people knew each other. Note, no adult female friend of Huckaby in Tracy has surfaced that I know of.

What is really driving people crazy in this Tracy case is that no one
really believes that Melissa Huckaby acted alone. People also do not
believe the police who say she acted alone because, 1) they did not
put out an Amber alert that night, and 2) they did not put out bloodhounds that night. My God– what did they think Sandra Cantu did — hop on a bike and go to a bar? 3) the young cop handling the matter Cogburn failed to make a detention of Huckaby when she took the first girl and apparently drugged her in January 09.

Also the Tracy 60, covered by the Tracy Press on April 6 (no longer online, don’t have the article but has been quoted) indicated that Cogburn said that he knew of 50 or 60 people in Tracy currently using child porn and he didn’t have enough evidence to arrest them. There have been three big arrests for child abuse, porn, including the Tracy teen case in the last few months in Tracy. The feds ran Operation Valley Predator last year in the Central Valley and Tracy police participated. This flushed out some, I guess, but it may have made others more careful, and use unusual methods of procurements, photography, etc. such as enlisting Huckaby whom no one suspected of anything.”

[doubledecker]

Lone, can you go to the Blink site, comment #369 and bring that newspaper article over here.  I tried, alas . . .

hi, I went to the blink site and post 369 and that is not about CLL, it is a post about melissa and all the so's in the lawless lines.  is there another post 369 somewhere?  I went to the comments section 369 on the tim lawless relative section.  Am I in the wrong one?

I will get that info if you have a link where it is

[Sister]

 Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
« Reply #369 on: April 29, 2009, 09:33:05 PM » Quote 

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These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?

 

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This is on page 19 of the thread by Blink on SMs -- oh how I wish I could do it right :>(

[doubledecker]

Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
« Reply #369 on: April 29, 2009, 09:33:05 PM » Quote 

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These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?

 

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This is on page 19 of the thread by Blink on SMs -- oh how I wish I could do it right :>(

oh ok ai foud it, I thought you meant on blink's blog pages haha here is the article from the post on page 19 here on blink's origingal lawless thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4964.0;attach=7047;image

[Sister]

oh thank you (me not splaining myself very well).  So he did go in the Navy if this is really Clifford "Lane" Lawless.

[doubledecker]

dang let me do this again

[doubledecker]

ok the family is listing him in the news as LANE LAWLESS.  But I can't find him in any military records under that name or clifford lane lawless.  so, either I am missing the record or he enlisted in the military under some other name other than clifford lane lawless or lane lawless.  If he has another name, why is his family calling him lane lawless?

[doubledecker]

so paul is still alive at this time, where is the date of this article.  his father is still married to jessie dicus.  so he leaves for the navy that week, whatever the date is on that article, so we need the date and maybe we can find a record under a similar name during that time period

[doubledecker]

where did the name clifford come from in the first place?  the news?  all his family in all the articles refer to him as Lane lawless. 

[Sister]

That's the thing -- when he is young he is referred to a Lane Lawless -- when he starts having a written (unverified) history, he becomes Clifford L. Lawless.  Now, that's messed up.  One explanation would be that he really belongs to a different set of parents, or an aunt (unmarried) or whatever.  It seems all of a suddent he is CLL.  Remember that time you found a "birth" record of a Connie Lane Lawless?  Just makes me scratch my head.

[doubledecker]

I can understand its possible I miss a few things, but not THIS MANY.  where the heck are the records.  They either do not exist or they are under other names.  well let me try to find the date of that article where he is leaving for the Navy that week, at least we will have an approx date he went into the navy, maybe that will help us find something, maybe under another name.

[Sister]

In his father's obit dated 12/12/68 he is referred to as Lane Lawless
In his stepmother's obit dated 01/27/83 he is referred to as Lane Lawless.

[doubledecker]

I would really like to know his classification in the navy.  Wonder how long he was in the navy and where and did he go to the naval school in monterey?  would be very interesting if he did.

[lonemonkey]

more information on Clifford Lane Lawless

living in San Jose at least from Sept 1976 - Sept 1979
Quad-City Herald Sept 9, 1976
Lane Lawless of San Jose, California, was here last week visiting Esther Lawless

Quad-City Herald Sept 6, 1979
Mr. and Mrs. Lane Lawless, Brian, Brett and Joni of San Jose, California, have been visiting Eshter Lawless.
They took a trip up the Nethow for a few days, and celebrated Lane's birthday with the Ted Huckabee family.



graduated from Brewster HS in 1950

Was on debate team at brewster High School
Quad-City Herald - Feb 7, 1980

Religious Background Information

clifford lane lawless studied under A. A. Harris

clifford's wife Connie is the daughter of A. A. and Irene Harris.

clifford and wife connie were married by A. A. Harris in Modesto Ca on July 9, 1960 He was also baptized this day by A. A. Harris

He was saved Wenatchee, Washington, In April of 1960. He was baptized July 9, 1960 by the authority of the Eastside Missionary Baptist Church of East Wenatchee. Elder A.A. Harris administered the ordinance



so he was baptized in wanachee wa the same day he was married in modesto CA?______________________________



more information on Paul George Lawless (Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

Paul George Lawless ( Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
Born: 24 Jan 1927
Died: 26 Mar 1997



P. George Lawless ( Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: P George Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1926
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: George W Lawless
Mother's Name: Jessie G
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
father George W Lawless born North Dakota
his parents born Unknown in USA
Occupation of George W Lawless - electrician
George W Lawless is a War Veteran

Mother, Jesse G. Dicus born In Washington
her father b. in Iowa, her mother b. Canada/English

Neighbors: 1930 census
Rawley Family
Lamberton Family


Household Members:
Name Age
George W Lawless 37
Jessie G Lawless 24
P George Lawless 3 4/12



Death Record For Paul George LawlessPaul Lawless
SSN: 531-30-7260
Last Residence: 20781 Hyattsville, Prince Georges, Maryland, United States of America
Born: 24 Jan 1927
Died: 26 Mar 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)


military for George Paul Lawless/Paul George Lawless
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about George P Lawless
Name: George P Lawless
Birth Year: 1927
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Washington
State of Residence: Washington
County or City: Okanogan

Enlistment Date: 20 Jun 1945
Enlistment State: Washington
Enlistment City: Fort Lewis
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Marital Status: Single, without dependents

[lonemonkey]

This is an important post...
It's Lane's dad George's Obit
The actual Obit does not show so here is the link:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4964.360

Perhaps this can shed some more light on something.   It's George M. Lawless' obit.

[doubledecker]

[doubledecker]

there is his first wife's name, how did we miss that for so long LOL ... so much info you just can't absorb all of this at once. 

ok we have her name.  I guess she had no kids?  they listed george/her husband as preceding her in death; you would think they would have listed in children who also preceded her in death.  And there are none listed as living, so did she not have any children ever?  or for some reason do they just not mention them? 

her name is ester cupery.

and at the time of this article LANE lawless is in Ephrata.  Where is that? 

[doubledecker]

ooops typo on his wife's name

should be

Esther Cupery

[lonemonkey]

I know what you mean, DD!!!
I think there is actually a LOT compiled in our *stacks*...
Now it's a matter of finding it and putting it all together!!!