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Sister
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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Reply #160 on:
June 19, 2009, 02:39:08 AM »
oh man, I'm falling down on the job. I knew who Esther was and where it was on the blink thread here. I've read and re-read more than 6,000 pages. If you need to "remember" because you guys are doing the research and I'm doing the reading (and making my little pencil notes :>) -- just ask. I've read through the post on the Blink Lawless thread several times. At one point, I started to begin another thread, titled, questions you asked to be reminded of.
Sorry haven't been here to hold up my end. Just a little stomach distressed, but it keeps me glued to a different room in the house.
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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June 19, 2009, 05:16:36 PM »
from DD post
Notes for CLIFFORD "LANE" LAWLESS:
Name: Clifford Lane Lawless
Phone Number:
Edit-No phone numbers please
Address: 424 W Beverly Pl, Tracy, California 95376-0801 (1993)
[434 W Beverly Pl, Tracy, California 95376]
[667 Ruby Rd, Livermore, California 94550]
Name: Lane Lawless
Address: 424 W Beverly Pl
City: Tracy
State: California
Zip Code: 95376-3011
Phone Number: 209-
Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1993 1994 1995 1996
Name: Lane Lawless
Address: 11000 W Clover Rd
City: Tracy
State: California
Zip Code: 95376-1703
Phone Number: 209-
Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1993 1994 1995 1996
Name: Lane Pastr Lawless
Address: 11000 W Clover Rd
City: Tracy
State: California
Zip Code: 95376-1703
Phone Number: 209-
Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1997
Name: Lane Pastr Lawless
Address: 424 W Beverly Pl
City: Tracy
State: California
Zip Code: 95376-3011
Phone Number: 209-
Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1997
Name: Lane P Lawless
Address: 812 W Clover Rd 57
City: Tracy
State: California
Zip Code: 95376-1712
Phone Number: 209-
Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002
Name: Lane P Lawless
Address: 11000 W Clover Rd
City: Tracy
State: California
Zip Code: 95376-1703 209-
Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1998 1999 2000
what are those other addresses?
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June 19, 2009, 05:17:29 PM »
oops, I highlighted and asked the question. sorry, fingers not working well.
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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Reply #163 on:
June 20, 2009, 08:35:00 PM »
Quote from: Sister on June 19, 2009, 05:17:29 PM
oops, I highlighted and asked the question. sorry, fingers not working well.
they are addresses where clifford lane lawless is showing he has lived.
all the addresses that I put in context with a name like that, are addresses that are showing up in the database as being addresses the person has used.
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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June 20, 2009, 11:15:49 PM »
I meant to ask what is located at those addresses.
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June 20, 2009, 11:19:56 PM »
Quote from: Sister on June 20, 2009, 11:15:49 PM
I meant to ask what is located at those addresses.
they are houses I think. somewhere I looked up all the info and who was connected to each of the addresses.
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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Reply #166 on:
June 20, 2009, 11:22:56 PM »
If you've already checked it out . . . I just don't remember seeing it.
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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Reply #167 on:
June 20, 2009, 11:45:27 PM »
DD can you please explain the long post of names? It starts with 667 Ruby Livermore...I can't seem to follow.
thanks!
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June 20, 2009, 11:55:44 PM »
Tracygirl, O/T I received a nice note from Billy's mom.
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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June 20, 2009, 11:59:44 PM »
Oh good sister. I had heard from her too a couple weeks back. His case is a strange one and I am not sure what to think with it all.
You all are working so hard on these Sandra threads. I will admit I have seen a few family names which sort of freak me out a bit. A lot of old time local names. I don't really know what to think but I am pretty much ready to move!
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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June 22, 2009, 02:30:21 AM »
Quote from: Tracygirl on June 20, 2009, 11:45:27 PM
DD can you please explain the long post of names? It starts with 667 Ruby Livermore...I can't seem to follow.
thanks!
cll is listed at that address at one time, and those are all the names connected to that address
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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Reply #171 on:
June 22, 2009, 02:37:55 AM »
I don't know how to link the pic but I googled the address, the home is small.
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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Reply #172 on:
June 23, 2009, 03:38:50 AM »
This is from the Texas thread
Name: Clifton Lawless
Residence: 1992 - DE Berry, Texas
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June 28, 2009, 04:55:44 PM »
So there is a Porfirio Martinez listed as a possible roommate with Pastor Lane...
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http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp
MARTINEZ,�PORFIRIO�
Available(2) Available TRACY,�CA Possible Relatives:
MARTINEZ SENDEN,�MILDRED�(Age�47)
RENTERIA,�DOLORES�(Age�69)
MARTINEZ,�ANTONIO�(Age�66)
MARTINEZ,�MARY�(Age�62)
MARTIN,�SHANE�M�(Age�29)
Possible Roommates / Associates:
GARCIA,�SAMUEL�PEREZ�(Age�43)
MANNING,�ROBERT�KEVIN�(Age�47)
LAWLESS,�CLIFFORD�LANE�(Age�68)
MANNING,�DEBORAH�JEAN�(Age�47)
PEREZ,�CARMEN�T�(Age�50)
LLAMAS,�STEVEN�G�(Age�55)
LAWLESS,�LANE�PASTR
YUDIS,�ALBERTO�N�(Age�32)
TIZOC,�MARIA�D
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LAWLESS,�CLIFFORD�LANE (Age 67)
Associated names:
�LAWLESS,�LANE�C
�LAWLESS,�LANE�L
�LAWLESS,�LANE�PASTR
�LAWLOR,�LANE�
Available(3) Available TRACY,�CA
SAN JOSE,�CA
LIVERMORE,�CA Possible Relatives:
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LAWLESS,�CLANE�(Age�31)
LAWLESS,�LANE�PASTR
LAWLESS,�PSTR�LANE
LAWLESS,�CONNIE�L�(Age�67)
Possible Roommates / Associates:
CHAMMISA,�CHERYL�(Age�47)
CHAMMISA,�JEFF
MARTINEZ,�PORFIRIO
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2. LAWLESS,�LANE�PASTR
Associated names:
�LAWLESS,�L�C
�LAWLESS,�PSTR�LANE
Possible Employment / Business Associations:
�CLOVER ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH
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LAWLESS,�CLIFFORD�LANE�(Age�67)
LAWLESS,�CLANE�(Age�31)
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LAWLESS,�PSTR�LANE
Possible Roommates / Associates:
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Porfirio Martinez
Person ID
4881053 Sex
MALE Race
WHITE Height
509
Weight
135 Hair Color
Black Eye Color
BROWN Ethnic
UNKNOWN - CCH
Name
Name ID
11751407 Name
MARTINEZ,PORFIRIO
Alias Names
Name ID
11751405 Alias Name
MARTINEZ,P J
Name ID
11751406 Alias Name
MARTINEZ,P-J
Name ID
11751408 Alias Name
MARTINEZ,PORFIRIO III
Name ID
11751409 Alias Name
MARTINEZ,ROFIRIO
Birthdate(s)
Date of Birth ID
5212872 Person ID
4881053 Date of Birth Type
B Date of Birth
1982-01-15 00:00:00.000
Individual Data
Individual ID
4881053 DPS Number
05604929
Photo
Individual ID
4881053 DPS No.
05604929 Risk
none found SSZ Code
none found
SWD Code
none found ERT Code
none found ERD Date
2007-06-03 00:00:00.000 VRP Code
none found
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Event ID
19401074 Event
Verification Event Date
1996-06-03 01:00:00.000 ORI Text
TX2201200
Address Event
Address Event ID
8836930 PDV Code
Texas Resident
Address
Address ID
15692860 Street/P.O. Box Number
4225 Street Name
5TH AVE Apartment No.
City
FT WORTH Place Type
U.S. STATES Place
Texas ZIP Code
76115
County Code
TARRANT
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none found
License Event
none found
Occupation Event
Occupation Event ID
13719181 PDV Code
Value Occupation ID
9314540
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Employer
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City
UNKNOWN State
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U.S. STATES Place
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36010001
Version No.
1 Out of State Code
TX Out of State Offense
General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
N OST Code
JPO CPR Code
1Y CDD Date
1996-06-03 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
13 SOV Code
F
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U.S. STATES Place
Texas Offense Code
36010001 Version No.
1
Offense Description
INDECENCY W/CHILD SEXUAL CONTACT TXC Code
36010001 Status Code
A Citation
21.11 (a)(1)
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Re: Pastor Clifford LANE Lawless
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June 28, 2009, 05:03:15 PM »
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http://www.privateeye.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?auth=&vw=people&input=name&fn=porfirio&mn=&ln=martinez&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&age=&city=tracy&state=CA&db=www.privateeye.com
MARTINEZ, PORFIRIO Tracy, CA
MARTINEZ SENDEN, MILDRED
RENTERIA, DOLORES
MARTINEZ, ANTONIO
MARTINEZ, MARY
MARTIN, SHANE M
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June 30, 2009, 01:30:59 AM »
clifford and wife connie were married by A. A. Harris in Modesto Ca on July 9, 1960 He was also baptized this day by A. A. Harris
He was saved Wenatchee, Washington, In April of 1960.
He was baptized July 9, 1960 by the authority of the Eastside Missionary Baptist Church
of East Wenatchee.
He could have been baptized anywhere, it was by the "authority of" which I guess A.A.Harris was pastor.
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June 30, 2009, 01:49:03 AM »
The Alisal was not accredited until 1982; Connie's brother knew CLL from the 50s, although DeWayne was not born until 1943 and CLL went in the Navy in 1950. His whole history is very, very mucked up.
1981 - Lane lived in Salinas CA while receiving his theological education from the Alisal Baptist Institute Theological Seminary, received BA degree in religious studies; (by the way, Lane's education received ten years after he was ordained and had already pastored at least three churches)
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Quote from: Sister on June 30, 2009, 01:49:03 AM
The Alisal was not accredited until 1982; Connie's brother knew CLL from the 50s, although DeWayne was not born until 1943 and CLL went in the Navy in 1950. His whole history is very, very mucked up.
1981 - Lane lived in Salinas CA while receiving his theological education from the Alisal Baptist Institute Theological Seminary, received BA degree in religious studies; (by the way, Lane's education received ten years after he was ordained and had already pastored at least three churches)
Let's compare..
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Lawless, Clifford Lane
Lawless, Clifford Lane Lane was saved May 1960, and was baptized July 9, 1960, by the Eastside MBC in Stockton. He was called to preach April 6, 1971, and ordained August 20, 1971, by the Winton MBC.
He has pastored the following churches: Beacon MBC in Redding August
1971
to May
1973
; Grace MBC of Gardena May
1973 to May 1974
; Mission work in Eureka; the Mountain View, California, First Sovereign Grace Missionary Baptist Church in
1980
. In
1981
the church in Tracy California merged with the Mountain View church and Brother Lawless continued as pastor with the church being called, Clover Road Missionary Baptist Church of Tracy, California. He is pastor to this day
(2009)
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Where is Modesto in relationship to Stockton?
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Do we have any idea what CLL did to make a living when he and the Mrs. got married in 1960? He didn't start preaching until 1971. Then there seems to be a gap from 1974 to 1980. Bio says mission work, but, how did he make a living for his family?
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