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Author Topic: Amber Leeanne Dubois #2 (remains found 3/6/10) 1/15/10 - 7/3/13  (Read 430100 times)
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« Reply #1120 on: March 09, 2010, 04:59:33 PM »

Thanks NorRose that was very interesting.

So he has ties to Redondo Beach? Who went missing from Redondo Beach, was it that one girl found in Running Springs? I think they have the assumbed perp in jail though?
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« Reply #1121 on: March 09, 2010, 05:07:10 PM »

So someone had to give them specific information on where to find Amber, unless they are reacting to the dogs from August and went out with cadaver dogs. They do say the tip came in on Thursday. I read a comment that day from a poster on a news site that said LE needs to look at the pala library, maybe it was that person or a person with a similar idea?
Of course I am hoping it was a person close to the killer so they can be held responsible for her death.
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« Reply #1122 on: March 09, 2010, 05:10:47 PM »

Thanks NorRose that was very interesting.

So he has ties to Redondo Beach? Who went missing from Redondo Beach, was it that one girl found in Running Springs? I think they have the assumbed perp in jail though?

Page 9 is interesting as well as it lists all the places he has worked and he says if he needs money he can work for his grand parents sign shop. 
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« Reply #1123 on: March 09, 2010, 05:15:50 PM »

Tracygirl
I have been thinking they might have the wrong guy in jail and they need to take another look at the situation now at hand.
What will probably happen is that they will not look at the currant culprit. to much ego and afraid of false arrest lawsuit.
Besides I believe they have some form of confession on the suspect in custody.
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« Reply #1124 on: March 09, 2010, 05:22:05 PM »

I would think
There is only a couple of people who could possibly know where Amber was located in Pala.

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« Reply #1125 on: March 09, 2010, 06:02:48 PM »

I would think
There is only a couple of people who could possibly know where Amber was located in Pala.




The perp (s)
A possible witness
A person he may have told

I would suppose they could use cadaver dogs to locate the exact spot of the remains? I would think if he had told them he killed Amber then there would be a 2nd murder charge? There is not or has not been and they are collecting evidence so that leads me to consider he didn't tell them? I don't know, I suppose we will find out. I think I am worried they wont find who did this and that is the last thing anyone wants to happen.
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« Reply #1126 on: March 09, 2010, 06:18:48 PM »

I would think
There is only a couple of people who could possibly know where Amber was located in Pala.




The perp (s)
A possible witness
A person he may have told

I would suppose they could use cadaver dogs to locate the exact spot of the remains? I would think if he had told them he killed Amber then there would be a 2nd murder charge? There is not or has not been and they are collecting evidence so that leads me to consider he didn't tell them? I don't know, I suppose we will find out. I think I am worried they wont find who did this and that is the last thing anyone wants to happen.

Someone that was with the perp
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« Reply #1127 on: March 09, 2010, 06:23:11 PM »

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/09/parents-call-for-strict-laws-against-predators/

Garcia told The San Diego Union-Tribune in a phone interview Sunday afternoon that the tip leading investigators to Amber’s remains did not come from Gardner. A few minutes later, when he was asked again about the tip and how he knew it didn’t come from Gardner, Garcia said, “I talked to someone who knows it firsthand.” He said he couldn’t say any more without getting into trouble.

wonder who?



Last I heard this Garcia PI guy is FOS and he retracted that statement.

so another Ahole preying on the dead for 15min of fame

if  the state is plea bargaining, with jag, for info, then their next step
had better be tougher laws and regs, for S.O.s in ca, or the people of
ca are going to be pi$$, that he gets life instead of death
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« Reply #1128 on: March 09, 2010, 06:36:19 PM »

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He has been cited for several traffic violations since December 2006, when he failed to stop at a red light in Loma Linda. He was cited for marijuana possession in Buccaneer Park in Oceanside in November 2008 and for an open container of alcohol and not having his license in Escondido last April.


was jag still on probation in nov 2008
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« Reply #1129 on: March 09, 2010, 06:39:17 PM »

Live on radio now


http://www.kfiam640.com/main.html

Live interview now about John Gardner.

On right side click listen live, (john and ken show)
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« Reply #1130 on: March 09, 2010, 06:55:04 PM »

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He has been cited for several traffic violations since December 2006, when he failed to stop at a red light in Loma Linda. He was cited for marijuana possession in Buccaneer Park in Oceanside in November 2008 and for an open container of alcohol and not having his license in Escondido last April.


was jag still on probation in nov 2008
There are so many places connected to Gardner now.  Has anyone made a list with possible places and years that they can post?  It would help in looking for other similar crimes. 
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« Reply #1131 on: March 09, 2010, 07:00:52 PM »

Live on radio now


http://www.kfiam640.com/main.html

Live interview now about John Gardner.

On right side click listen live, (john and ken show)

John and Ken are speaking with publicist ("Michelle Bart") for Sheila Welch (Amber's grandmother) Talking about the dogs that followed the scent to Pala. Michelle thought Amber was still alive because the dogs were hitting on "live" scent at the time all the way to Pala. Searchers were going to extend their stay but police didnt want them to go back????

News on now, waiting for part 2
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« Reply #1132 on: March 09, 2010, 07:46:58 PM »

Tougher law for SO's.

How about and Sex offender that is a level 3 or higher can not EVER have a drivers license, be  a passenger in a vehicle that has tinted windows, or a van of any kind. They can not own a Van, SUV or a vehicle with tinted windows. They can use public transportation period. Sex Offender must be printed on all other lower level SO's drivers License. His license plate should start with SOL1 or SOL2, that way the witness only has three #'s to remember. If the car is spotted in a school yard call it in. If the car is spotted in a park call it in.

If he has a monitoring device on his ankle is makes a loud noise when he runs walks fast. A Victim would hear her attacker.
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« Reply #1133 on: March 09, 2010, 08:38:50 PM »

Live on radio now


http://www.kfiam640.com/main.html

Live interview now about John Gardner.

On right side click listen live, (john and ken show)

John and Ken are speaking with publicist ("Michelle Bart") for Sheila Welch (Amber's grandmother) Talking about the dogs that followed the scent to Pala. Michelle thought Amber was still alive because the dogs were hitting on "live" scent at the time all the way to Pala. Searchers were going to extend their stay but police didnt want them to go back????

News on now, waiting for part 2

I listened to the man that was hired to do the dog search and I thought he said he couldn't be sure it was a live scent or maybe he said it didn't mean she was still alive but she was alive when she was at that spot?
Michelle Bart needs to stick very close to what happened or this story will lose it's credibility.
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« Reply #1134 on: March 09, 2010, 08:40:03 PM »

Tougher law for SO's.

How about and Sex offender that is a level 3 or higher can not EVER have a drivers license, be  a passenger in a vehicle that has tinted windows, or a van of any kind. They can not own a Van, SUV or a vehicle with tinted windows. They can use public transportation period. Sex Offender must be printed on all other lower level SO's drivers License. His license plate should start with SOL1 or SOL2, that way the witness only has three #'s to remember. If the car is spotted in a school yard call it in. If the car is spotted in a park call it in.

If he has a monitoring device on his ankle is makes a loud noise when he runs walks fast. A Victim would hear her attacker.

How about 1 strike and they are out of here? That is what I want, do it once and there are no more chances.

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« Reply #1135 on: March 09, 2010, 08:41:57 PM »

strick should be strike in my above post ^. Can a mod please correct it for me? Thanks!

Done.  YW.  MB
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« Reply #1136 on: March 09, 2010, 08:45:46 PM »

It bothers that Michelle Bart has been involved in this case because of her track record in the Caylee Anthony case.  She really down played the use of dogs in that case..and now she seems to be saying something different then the actual handler
in this case too.

She is no expert on the dogs and should refer all questions or comments to the handlers.

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« Reply #1137 on: March 09, 2010, 08:50:34 PM »

It bothers that Michelle Bart has been involved in this case because of her track record in the Caylee Anthony case.  She really down played the use of dogs in that case..and now she seems to be saying something different then the actual handler
in this case too.

She is no expert on the dogs and should refer all questions or comments to the handlers.



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« Reply #1138 on: March 09, 2010, 08:58:22 PM »

O/T except they will be discussing the Chelsea King case at one point:

Coming up in just a few minutes!



Click on the link below!

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u
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« Reply #1139 on: March 09, 2010, 09:08:17 PM »

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2010/03/chelsea_king_missing_john_albe.php

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UPDATE V: John Albert Gardner has been charged with Chelsea's murder and an attack on a college student jogging in the same park in December.

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