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Author Topic: Amber Leeanne Dubois #2 (remains found 3/6/10) 1/15/10 - 7/3/13  (Read 426877 times)
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« Reply #1280 on: March 13, 2010, 02:01:47 PM »

http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12131701

Ex-friend: Gardner sexually abused and suicidal over breakup
Posted: Mar 12, 2010 12:03 PM PST Updated: Mar 13, 2010 8:18 AM PST
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(CBS Cool - A former close friend of accused killer John Gardner has come forward with shocking revelations about his past.

Jennifer Brandt and Gardner weren't close in high school, but became friends shortly after they graduated from the Class of 1997 at Rim of the World high school near Lake Arrowhead, California.

"He was a fun and crazy guy," Brandt said.

That was the John Gardner who Jennifer Brandt thought she knew, until his 2000 conviction for molesting and assaulting a 13-year-old girl.

"Pretty much all of his friends were hurt and betrayed by him after that.  We stopped all contact with him," Brandt said.

She hasn't spoken to Gardner since then. In fact, she says she hasn't even thought of his name in years, until he made national headlines.

"It was shocking. This was a guy I hung out with, I stayed the night on his couch," she said.

She told News 8 on the phone from Indianapolis that John once admitted to her a dark secret.

"He had on one occasion spoken to me about how a male family member had sexually abused him when he was young. He was almost in tears talking about it. I don't even remember how the subject was brought up but it was obviously something he needed to talk about, and I was there to listen," she said.

Gardner is accused of raping and murdering 17-year-old Chelsea King, and a suspect in the murder of 14-year-old Amber Dubois as well.

"It's very painful right now.  We had several very deep conversations," Brandt said of her former friendship with Gardner.

She says Gardner admitted he had major mood swings and claimed his mother once committed him to a mental hospital.

On one occasion, she and her friends watched from a car while Gardner streaked a convenience store, Brandt told News 8.

"He got completely naked and put a bag on his head and ran in the store.  And the thing that was funny was, there was nobody in the store.  The clerk was in the back," she recalled.

Gardner also threatened suicide a couple years after high school when his then girlfriend Jennifer Tripp dumped him, said Brandt.  Tripp is a couple years younger than Gardner and was still in school at the time of the breakup, according to Brandt.

"He missed her and he would cry about it and there was nothing left to live for without her," Brandt recalled Gardner telling her.

Brandt also believes Tripp – the girlfriend who broke Gardner's heart -- resembles both Chelsea King and Amber Dubois.

"From the photos that I see… the blue eyes, the straight hair… they all look like the girl he dated in high school and broke his heart," Brandt said.



I think Jennifer looks similar to Amber and the other ex, the one with the twins looks similar to Chelsea. That is interesting.

Side note to PI, HD in ADHD stands for hyper activity.
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« Reply #1281 on: March 13, 2010, 02:03:58 PM »

I know armchair what you meant, that gardner was not focusing his energy on the right things, had someone told him or gave him further direction to other possibilities since he wanted to be a math teacher or law enforcement professional (that's if he had really meant that and he was hopeful) and maybe engrained that in his head, maybe 2 girls would be alive right now. To me if gardner had a job as a electrician and he was making good money, I don't see how or why he would offend again, and his mom was no good influence, however, maybe gardner liked what his mom was doing... but hated his mom for it because he was not allowed or banned from participating in the "activities"...
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« Reply #1282 on: March 13, 2010, 02:05:29 PM »

I guess I was talking about ADD not ADHD. Is that two different things?
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« Reply #1283 on: March 13, 2010, 02:10:14 PM »

I have been wondering now if any cops were involved in the hashing group Cathy was in and if they had known her son was a sex offender. Cops are very keen on identifying these people at least I know some are..
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« Reply #1284 on: March 13, 2010, 02:23:58 PM »

Scripps made a statement on their website.

http://www.scripps.org/about-us__news-center__a-brief-statement-from-scripps
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« Reply #1285 on: March 13, 2010, 02:24:38 PM »

I hate to sound overrated but a lot of people like me have a fear of being turned down (fear of rejection), disliked, hated, perhaps Gardner's biggest weaknesss was those fears and to make things even he fought those fears he had and instead of letting them come by naturally and to let them pass on their way, he took them down because he didn't have patience with it...I looked up ADD and ADHD and I found out they are two different things...thanks Tracy..
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« Reply #1286 on: March 13, 2010, 02:25:15 PM »

I guess I was talking about ADD not ADHD. Is that two different things?

Yes, different.

Attention Deficit Disorder (minus the hyperactivity)
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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« Reply #1287 on: March 13, 2010, 02:26:40 PM »

I guess I was talking about ADD not ADHD. Is that two different things?

ADD is only 1/2 of adhd. you can have AD or HD or ADHD, it depends on your symptoms.

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« Reply #1288 on: March 13, 2010, 03:40:50 PM »

I looked for sex offenders in violation in Temecula and there is this man by the name of CORNELIO LUCERO (02-09-1973) he has been in violation of his registration since Feb 20,2010 and has a long criminal record... http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/cgi/prosoma.dll?searchby=offender&id=18605149J7944

I ran cornelio lucero's name through the riverside county court records search page.  http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/
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« Reply #1289 on: March 13, 2010, 04:18:49 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/03/08/john-albert-gardner-iii-now-linked-to-the-murder-of-amber-dubois-after-being-charged-with-the-rape-and-murder-of-chelsea-king/?preview=true&preview_id=13469&preview_nonce=02b30d9332

Someone who appears to be posting from the San Diego area is threatening me.  Just thought I'd mention it in case I disappear.  They posted the below on the front page of SM.

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« Reply #1290 on: March 13, 2010, 04:27:47 PM »

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/pds10-0220.htm  I wonder if this is Cornelio Lucero on the right..
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« Reply #1291 on: March 13, 2010, 04:32:18 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/03/08/john-albert-gardner-iii-now-linked-to-the-murder-of-amber-dubois-after-being-charged-with-the-rape-and-murder-of-chelsea-king/?preview=true&preview_id=13469&preview_nonce=02b30d9332

Someone who appears to be posting from the San Diego area is threatening me.  Just thought I'd mention it in case I disappear.  They posted the below on the front page of SM.

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So (EDIT), tell me - how do you and (EDIT) like living in (EDIT)? We’re actually neighbors. Perhaps I could come over for a cup of coffee and we could discuss all of this in greater detail. Just a thought
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« Reply #1292 on: March 13, 2010, 04:43:46 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/03/08/john-albert-gardner-iii-now-linked-to-the-murder-of-amber-dubois-after-being-charged-with-the-rape-and-murder-of-chelsea-king/?preview=true&preview_id=13469&preview_nonce=02b30d9332

Someone who appears to be posting from the San Diego area is threatening me.  Just thought I'd mention it in case I disappear.  They posted the below on the front page of SM.

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So (EDIT), tell me - how do you and (EDIT) like living in (EDIT)? We’re actually neighbors. Perhaps I could come over for a cup of coffee and we could discuss all of this in greater detail. Just a thought
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Oh my Klaas that is horrible.
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« Reply #1293 on: March 13, 2010, 06:03:11 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/03/08/john-albert-gardner-iii-now-linked-to-the-murder-of-amber-dubois-after-being-charged-with-the-rape-and-murder-of-chelsea-king/?preview=true&preview_id=13469&preview_nonce=02b30d9332

Someone who appears to be posting from the San Diego area is threatening me.  Just thought I'd mention it in case I disappear.  They posted the below on the front page of SM.

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Submitted on 2010/03/13 at 3:13pm

So (EDIT), tell me - how do you and (EDIT) like living in (EDIT)? We’re actually neighbors. Perhaps I could come over for a cup of coffee and we could discuss all of this in greater detail. Just a thought
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I'm sorry to see this, Klaasend and you did the right thing by turning the threat made over to the police. 
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« Reply #1294 on: March 13, 2010, 07:04:16 PM »

omg Klaas.  That's horrible.  Hope the police take notice!



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« Reply #1295 on: March 13, 2010, 07:18:17 PM »

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/pds10-0220.htm  I wonder if this is Cornelio Lucero on the right..

Wow...with that record...why on earth is he on the streets...capable of disappearing.  I really didn't read it all yet. 
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« Reply #1296 on: March 13, 2010, 07:25:51 PM »

omg Klaas.  That's horrible.  Hope the police take notice!





So sorry to hear this.  That must be scary.  You have been civil and open minded to the opposing view points...and they still threaten you?  Not that it would be right to threaten you if you weren't open-minded.  I am sure that it is someone close to the family of JAG...or the family of JAG...be cautious he may have learned his ways by example.  I tried to be open-minded about it...since I really don't know everything that went on in the family...but this makes it seem that maybe what most are saying is accurate. 
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« Reply #1297 on: March 13, 2010, 07:57:38 PM »

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/03/13/co-workers-upset-with-cathy-osborn-the-mother-of-john-albert-gardner-iii-and-her-return-to-work-hashers-pics-sex-offender-son-oh-my/

Co-Workers Upset with Cathy Osborn, the Mother of John Albert Gardner III, and Her Return to Work (Hashers, Pics & Sex Offender Son, OH MY!!!)
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« Reply #1298 on: March 13, 2010, 10:26:01 PM »

Take care Klaasend.
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« Reply #1299 on: March 13, 2010, 10:31:42 PM »

Take care Klaasend.

Thanks Kat_Gram 
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