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« Reply #1800 on: May 14, 2010, 06:56:54 PM »

Actually we did see some remorse out of him but when the gal talked of hitting him in the nose.. Well then you see in him what got our 2 girls murdered.
He ignites on being hit.. That is when the rage comes out. That tells me that Our 2 girls most likely tried to fight him off. The girl that got away was able to land one on his nose which makes the eyes water... and she ran ! thank god for that.
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« Reply #1801 on: May 14, 2010, 06:58:04 PM »

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/14/victim-families-say-gardner-will-burn-hell/

Victim families: Gardner will 'burn in hell'
Judge sentences the killer to three life sentences


By Matthew T. Hall, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, May 14, 2010 at 3:09 p.m.

John Albert Gardner III’s victims had their say in court today, reading prepared statements that were heavy on loss and anger.

Six people in all tried to articulate the toll Gardner’s violence took on their lives, many of them saying he would burn in hell as part of his punishment and criticizing the system that let such heinous crimes take place.

Brent and Kelly King, the parents of murdered Poway 17-year-old Chelsea King, also directed some of their anger at Gardner’s father, largely absent from his life, and his mother, who they said should have acted to protect the community during the year between Amber’s disappearance and Chelsea’s death.

“Your mother, Cathy Osborne, knew what you were capable of and did nothing to protect us from you,” Brent King said. “She knew who you were after you violently beat and tried to rape that poor 13-year-old girl a decade ago.”

Gardner served five years in prison for that 2000 beating and molesting of a former Rancho Bernardo neighbor and spent three years on parole.

Carrie McGonigle, mother of murdered Escondido 14-year-old Amber Dubois, said she wished she could have traded places with her daughter the morning of her abduction so she could have fought off Gardner.

Gardner largely cast his eyes downward and sat grim-faced, taking deep breaths throughout the hourlong hearing in which he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

But he reacted twice to what was said to him, once when the mother of murder victim Chelsea King, 17, of Poway, urged him to “Look at me” and once when a woman he assaulted prompted his only words of the day.

Candice Moncayo, the 22-year-old jogger who was assaulted by Gardner in December but escaped after elbowing him in the face, ended her tearful remarks, saying, “I came here today ... finally, to ask him how his nose is.”


Gardner immediately appeared agitated and while whispering to his attorney said, “She did it for publicity.”

Gardner was formally sentenced to serve three consecutive life terms in prison without parole, plus an additional 24 years, for raping and killing Amber in February 2009 and Chelsea a year later, and for assaulting Moncayo. No one spoke on his behalf.

Amber’s father, Moe Dubois, said he hopes Gardner suffers for a long time and also used his statement to criticize the system.

“It’s obvious the legal system failed us here, with all of the missed opportunities that ultimately allowed this monster to stalk our streets and harm our loved ones,” he said.

“He will burn in hell for the acts he has committed,” he said. “I just hope that day is an agonizingly long way away and that he will have to suffer as much as well have, actually more.”

David Cave, McGonigle’s former boyfriend, also spoke on Amber’s behalf, decrying the selfish acts and savage actions of Gardner that affected so many. Echoing other speakers, he said Amber inspires him still.

That was a running theme through the comments of Kelly King, Chelsea’s mother.

“I miss and mourn for Chelsea more deeply than one can ever imagine except for my son and husband,” Kelly King said. “The three of us, and millions of others, will never let Chelsea’s light go out.”

The last to speak, she concluded, “You no longer exist. My daughter will always exist. While your name will be quickly forgotten, hers won’t. You have not defeated me. I will carry on my daughter’s beautiful spirit with pride and purpose.”
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« Reply #1802 on: May 14, 2010, 07:00:39 PM »

When nations seek out No Death as penalty..
That agenda is pushed by the criminal networks.
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« Reply #1803 on: May 14, 2010, 07:15:58 PM »

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_969bfdc0-5fa6-11df-9125-001cc4c002e0.html
REGION: Gardner sentenced to two life terms
Sentencing closes another chapter in Amber Dubois and Chelsea King murders
May 14, 2010

Maurice Dubois, father of Amber Dubois, speaks to John Gardner during Gardner's sentencing at the County Courthouse in downtown San Diego on Friday. 



John Albert Gardner III, a convicted sex offender who was previously imprisoned for sexually assaulting a 13-year-old neighbor, was sentenced Friday to two consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole for raping and murdering North County teenagers Amber Dubois and Chelsea King.

The sentencing came after the parents of the slain girls and another woman he assaulted addressed Gardner, 31, directly in court, prompting him to cry at times and, in one instance, to show a dramatic flash of anger.

That moment came when the woman he assaulted on Dec. 27, 2009, Candice Moncayo, ended her emotional statement by saying, "How is your nose?"

That was a reference to her fending off the attack by hitting Gardner in the nose.

Gardner's face changed from one of sadness to rage and he was seen telling his attorneys that she had hit him.

During the hour-long hearing, Moncayo, along with the parents of Chelsea and Amber, variously called Gardner a monster, said he should burn in hell and predicted he would be murdered by a fellow inmate.

Amber's mother Carrie McConigle told Gardner that he extinguished a bright and shining star.

"I believe in my heart that Amber would forgive, and today I choose to take my strength from my daughter's strength and forgive, but I also choose to never forget the pain that you caused or the loss that I feel," she said.

Chelsea's mother Kelly King demanded the handcuffed Gardner, who spent most of the hearing staring downward, face her when she spoke.

"Look at me," she said, pausing, and Gardner eventually did.

"You have taken a life that was worth an infinite number of yours," she said. "You have earned the hatred of millions of people and you now spend the rest of your life and eternity in the worst and deepest parts of hell."

Videos of the two girls shown during the hearing recounted the upbringing of each and their hopes for their adult years.

It was when the first video was played, one telling about the life of Amber, that Gardner began to cry.

Amber's father, Maurice Dubois, told Gardner he had "heartlessly murdered and discarded our beautiful daughter."

"I truly hope you suffer a hundred times the amount of pain you caused," he said. "You will burn in hell for the acts you committed. I just hope that day is an agonizingly long way away and that you will have to suffer as much as we all have, actually more."

Chelsea's father Brent King called Gardner a coward.

"You are not a man," he said. "You are evil."

The Kings also were highly critical of Gardner's mother, who sat in the front row of the packed San Diego courtroom.

Both said she had failed to alert authorities about her son when Amber was abducted and did not tell police that her son was staying at her Rancho Bernardo home when Chelsea went missing in the area.

"You have much to account for," Brent King said to Gardner's mother, who was quickly escorted from the courtroom by deputies when the hearing ended.

Moncayo told Gardner that she wakes up screaming some mornings.

"I had the utter conviction that I was going to die and the pain that comes from being the only survivor," she said. "But I came here today for all of the women who have ever been victims of violence."

Gardner did not speak during the hearing. The public defender's office issued a statement following the sentencing:

"Mr. Gardner has accepted responsibility for his actions. Mr. Gardner wishes to express remorse for his actions, knowing that nothing he can say or do can possibly atone for the harm he has caused the victims and their families. Mr. Gardner is willing to assist by giving authorities some insights as to his thought process at the time these crimes were committed."

The punishment for Gardner was the result of a plea deal that pulled the death penalty off the table. The deal spared the families of the slain girls a lengthy and brutal trial. And because Gardner waived his right to an appeal, Friday's sentencing brought an end to the legal cases.

The sentence was handed down by San Diego Superior Court Judge David Danielsen.

The crimes

Amber, 14,  was a freshman at Escondido High School when she vanished while walking to school the morning of Feb. 13, 2009. She might have been the victim of foul play, or she might have run away from home, police said.

Hundreds searched for the shy girl who had planned on the day she disappeared to buy a lamb through the Future Farmers of America Club. She went to school carrying a $200 check to pay for the animal she was going to name Nannette.

Police had little, if anything, to go on. They questioned parents, neighbors, even sex offenders in the area ---- including Gardner ---- but turned up nothing.

What followed was a cruel year for her family. No way she ran away, they insisted. She had been abducted. In fact, two weeks before Amber vanished, her mother spoke to her about news reports of a man who was following young girls in inland North County. Amber's mom warned her to run away if it happened to her.

On Dec. 27, 2009, college student Moncayo was taking a run on trails at Rancho Bernardo Community Park near Lake Hodges when a man tackled her and asked for money.

Fearing the stranger would rape her, she jammed her elbow to his nose and fled.

Two months later, on Feb. 25, Poway High School senior Chelsea went for a run on those same trails and vanished.

Authorities searched the area and made an ominous find: the 17-year-old teenager's underwear. Lab tests revealed the material contained the DNA of Gardner, a registered sex offender.

On Feb. 28, authorities tracked Gardner to a popular restaurant on the north side of Lake Hodges, and arrested him for the rape and murder of Chelsea.

It took another two days to find Chelsea's body, buried alongside a lake tributary.

Gardner pleaded not guilty the day after Chelsea was found, on March 3. But behind the scenes, he was confessing.

On March 5, Gardner secretly led authorities to a remote site in Pala northeast of Escondido where he had raped, killed and buried Amber.

Amber's parents were told her remains were found in the rural spot, adjacent to a paved road off Pala-Temecula Road near the Pala Casino. The remote spot is about a 30-minute drive from Escondido High School.

But authorities kept mum, even to the slain girl's parents, regarding the truth of how they knew where to look.

Publicly, the only information Escondido police shared was that Gardner was "a focus" of their investigation into Amber's slaying.

Gardner pleads guilty

Then, on April 16, came the bombshell: Gardner pleaded guilty to killing both teens.

Amber, he raped and stabbed within 90 minutes of grabbing her, he admitted.

Chelsea, he raped and strangled inside of an hour after dragging her from the running trail, he said.

San Diego County District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis said her office struck a deal: Gardner would plead guilty to both killings, and they would not seek to have him executed.

She said there was simply no evidence linking Gardner to Amber ---- other than the fact that he told authorities what he had done.

But in exchange for leading investigators to the Amber's remains, prosecutors agreed not to use Gardner's confession against him.

If they found anything else tying Gardner to Amber, that was fair game. But there was nothing.

The dilemma: authorities said they had enough evidence in Chelsea's slaying to send Gardner to death row. But they could not win justice for Amber's slaying without Gardner's confession.

Chelsea's parents ---- who said they had wanted their daughter's killer to be executed ---- agreed to a deal that spared Gardner from execution, in part to give Amber's parents the answers and justice they needed.

McGonigle then did what for many was unthinkable: on Wednesday, she sat down with her daughter's killer to get answers.

McGonigle said the 30-minute encounter at a downtown San Diego jail brought her the answers she needed.

She is not yet willing to share what he told her, other than to say Gardner said he had targeted Amber at random.

McGonigle said she does plan to share the answer to a vital question for parents: how he got Amber into the car as she walked on a very busy street in the light of day.

Gardner's case brought changes

The plea deal, coming just six weeks after Gardner was charged with killing Chelsea, brought a lightning-fast resolution to crimes that shook the North County community.

"I think it's another step toward closure," said Joe Peters of Carlsbad, a longtime friend of Amber's family who helped organize searches for the teen. "Hopefully, it gives them peace. And hopefully it would also serve to remind the community again to take care of their children ... because there's people like John Gardner still out there."

Aside from the local impact, the stories of Chelsea and Amber have prompted scrutiny of state sex offender laws and whether enough is being done to protect the public from sexually violent predators.

Within two weeks of Gardner's arrest, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered a review of the way the state handled Gardner's molestation case from 2000.

The scrutiny also led Schwarzenegger to change a corrections department policy of destroying parole agents' field notes a year after ex-convicts were released from supervision. Now, the field notes are kept indefinitely.

Cheslea's parents worked with state Assemblyman Nathan Fletcher, R-San Diego, to introduce a bill dubbed "Chelsea's Law," which would tighten laws governing violent sex offenders.

Amber's parents turned their attention toward the search for missing kids. Her father, Moe Dubois, has started an organization he named "More Kids," which focuses on bringing media attention and resources in the search for missing children.

Amber's mother, McGonigle, last month hosted a four-day search-and-rescue training, and plans to hold similar programs again.

Dawn Davis, a senior case manager for the Texas-based Laura Recovery Center Foundation, which helped organize searches for both Amber and Chelsea, said the case will always scar the families of Gardner's victims. Closure, she said, is a fallacy.

"As glad as we are that he's going to be sentenced, there's still going to be missing pieces. Amber's still missing. Chelsea's still missing. ... For the families, I don't think there's any such thing as closure. There's always an open wound."

Call staff writer Teri Figueroa at 760-740-5442. Call staff writer Mark Walker at 760-740-3529.

Staff writer Chris Nichols contributed to this report.





   
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« Reply #1804 on: May 14, 2010, 07:17:05 PM »


Gardner immediately appeared agitated and while whispering to his attorney said, “She did it for publicity.”  He is nothing but vile and vicious, and I do hope when he gets to prison, the guards turn their backs, and let what needs to happen, happen.
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« Reply #1805 on: May 14, 2010, 07:30:17 PM »

You know what makes me very happy? For the rest of his life he will play over and over again in his mind his victim getting the last word and publically embarrassing him. He lost control because the control he felt as he sat there in the court room shifted out of his sorry hands right back to the victims. That will be his hell on earth. Good for her, what a brave young lady she is.

BTW, I have not wanted to say this but Gardner looks like my ex husband to the point my autistic son saw his pic and said " that is my daddy" Freaky isn't it? God I hope they are not related but if so, it would answer a lot of questions.
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« Reply #1806 on: May 14, 2010, 07:35:49 PM »

You know what makes me very happy? For the rest of his life he will play over and over again in his mind his victim getting the last word and publically embarrassing him. He lost control because the control he felt as he sat there in the court room shifted out of his sorry hands right back to the victims. That will be his hell on earth. Good for her, what a brave young lady she is.

BTW, I have not wanted to say this but Gardner looks like my ex husband to the point my autistic son saw his pic and said " that is my daddy" Freaky isn't it? God I hope they are not related but if so, it would answer a lot of questions.

I almost always have the same thoughts on these cases as you do Tracygirl... an angelic monkey 

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« Reply #1807 on: May 14, 2010, 07:43:38 PM »

Actually we did see some remorse out of him but when the gal talked of hitting him in the nose.. Well then you see in him what got our 2 girls murdered.
He ignites on being hit.. That is when the rage comes out. That tells me that Our 2 girls most likely tried to fight him off. The girl that got away was able to land one on his nose which makes the eyes water... and she ran ! thank god for that.


What you and we saw as remorse, I did not see it that way. I saw holding something back. Maybe it was tears, but it seemed to me like anger.  You know I love all you do here Edward. We can't agree all the time. 
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« Reply #1808 on: May 14, 2010, 07:48:12 PM »

Jag also gets to die in a peaceful manner. Maybe Carrie should have been wearing running shorts and holding onto a beer? She needs to be fired from her job. She is as worthless as her son.

Tracygirl-your comment really got to me. "Jag also gets to die in a peaceful manner".
  No human being should have to go through what those sweet, young inncocent young ladies went through.
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« Reply #1809 on: May 14, 2010, 07:50:38 PM »

I hope that one day Carrie does share with everyone how Gardner got Amber into his vehicle as that will then give everyone a tool to use in defense for there childs safety.
Something to say...Look at this, do not allow this to happen.. or RUN...

Always RUN
IF encountered and grabbed fight, bite, scream and yell, rip eyes .. do not be afraid to harm him or them in any way.. Blood under your finger nails is a good thing in that kind of situation.
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« Reply #1810 on: May 14, 2010, 07:57:58 PM »



I really liked it that that big old blob  of a bully was called a coward over and over.

They got the last word. I imagine he is fuming now.

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« Reply #1811 on: May 14, 2010, 08:05:14 PM »

Actually we did see some remorse out of him but when the gal talked of hitting him in the nose.. Well then you see in him what got our 2 girls murdered.
He ignites on being hit.. That is when the rage comes out. That tells me that Our 2 girls most likely tried to fight him off. The girl that got away was able to land one on his nose which makes the eyes water... and she ran ! thank god for that.


What you and we saw as remorse, I did not see it that way. I saw holding something back. Maybe it was tears, but it seemed to me like anger.  You know I love all you do here Edward. We can't agree all the time. 

I rewatched, and did see some tears fall.
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« Reply #1812 on: May 14, 2010, 08:08:57 PM »

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« Reply #1813 on: May 14, 2010, 08:51:52 PM »

Our local news is reporting that the COWARD said "She did not hit me, she is doing this for publicity". What an idiot he is. They got his DNA off of Candace from the blood from his nose after she broke it. I am still trying to figure out why that blood was not rushed to a lab for immediate processing. Perhaps if Candace was a minor, it would have been. So many lost opportunities. It is a scary thing to watch how pathetic our system really is. I blame the dirt bag judge that let the COWARD get such a light sentence in 2000. These liberal judges who feel sorry for predators have to go. He blatantly ignored the psychiatrists recommendation and because of that two innocent girls had to die. Then there is the probation department, Cathy Osborne, etc etc etc. It is mind boggling.
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« Reply #1814 on: May 14, 2010, 09:41:44 PM »

My own tear were falling much harder than Gardner's. He was fighting back some emotions thats for sure. I'm sure his heart was pounding so hard he probably wished he were dead. Now he has years to do nothing but think.
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« Reply #1815 on: May 14, 2010, 10:14:52 PM »

My own tear were falling much harder than Gardner's. He was fighting back some emotions thats for sure. I'm sure his heart was pounding so hard he probably wished he were dead. Now he has years to do nothing but think.

I hate to be so jaded but I think the sobbing and tears were an act. Having said that, the only time I have seen any kind of emotion from him is where Amber is concerned. Perhaps because he spent more time with Amber? Maybe she became a person to him. Hard to say. He was nodding yes when Chelsea's father pointed out how the other prisoners would no doubt come after him. Perhaps he was looking for some sympathy from the other prisoners? If he had any real remorse, he would have turned himself in, the moment he started having his sick thoughts. He spent 3 years in prison for a prior sex offense, I am sure that he could have gotten counseling if he truly wanted it. He is just a selfish piece of garbage that in my opinion does not have any feelings for anyone other than himself. Now he can watch and wait and wonder when his life will be over. He is such a coward that I am sure he will be terrified. That prison is not filled with little girls. There are real men there, men his own size. All I can say to that is YIPPEE! Goodbye Coward and good riddance!
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« Reply #1816 on: May 14, 2010, 10:36:44 PM »

Kodo's to Carie for taking the hi road and doing what Amber would do. She forgave the man, but not the crime. She is my role model for handling her self in a crises.
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« Reply #1817 on: May 14, 2010, 10:47:09 PM »

http://www.10news.com/news/23551255/detail.html

If you scroll to the bottom of the news story, you can read some comments from local San Diego residents.
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« Reply #1818 on: May 14, 2010, 10:51:34 PM »

Kodo's to Carie for taking the hi road and doing what Amber would do. She forgave the man, but not the crime. She is my role model for handling her self in a crises.

I was awed by all of those that spoke. I honestly do not know if I would have had the strength to get up in front of that court in front of that monster. They are the pillars of strength and I was just so overcome with emotion. They are all such incredible people. I truly believe that one day they will be able to move forward. Perhaps in a different manner but they will one day be able to experience laughter and joy again. They are all so strong and remarkably courageous during such a horrific ordeal. I have said it before, Carrie is an amazing, remarkable, strong woman.
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« Reply #1819 on: May 14, 2010, 11:46:13 PM »

http://media.signonsandiego.com/news/documents/2010/04/26/sdge.pdf

In this document it states that the coward followed another girl, 11 years old. An "unknown female" thought it looked suspicious and trailed the girl until she got home. I am so thankful to that unknown female. We all need to be aware of our surroundings and anything that looks suspicious or out of place.
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