Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 - 7/28/09

[hotping]

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I know some still believe the man in the red shirt may have been John Silvetti.  In this picture, I think the yellow arrow points to the visitor tag he was wearing.  It couldn't be seen in most of the other pictures we have because of Richardson standing in front of him.

I want to know WHO he is, and I'd also really like to know WHERE John Silvetti was while the taping was going on.

I thought the guy in the red shirt looked alot like the Weather Guy....

I still do too, and I still think the other guy near him looks like the younger weather guy.

I would LOVE to know for sure if it was them or not!

 

I agree TM.....We will find out one of these days...just gotta keep diggin....and if it was Them why were They involved on the Persistence.....a personal reason maybe...like some involvement in Natalee's Disappearance..... 

[hotping]

Good night Monkeys.  (Where's Janet tonight?)

Have a good one.  It has been educational for me tonight.  Learn something new all the time.

Good Night Blue Moon! Yep... We are never to old to learn! 

[texasmom]

Have you consider that Silvetti is the videographer and that's why he's not in the videos?

juss sayin'

when behind the lens - you tend to be missing from the shots.

Thanks Rob!

No, actually I hadn't even considered that; but that's a possibility!

hmmmm

the plot thickens!

[hotping]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23302581#23302581



I know some still believe the man in the red shirt may have been John Silvetti.  In this picture, I think the yellow arrow points to the visitor tag he was wearing.  It couldn't be seen in most of the other pictures we have because of Richardson standing in front of him.

I want to know WHO he is, and I'd also really like to know WHERE John Silvetti was while the taping was going on.

I was never convinced, TM....I agree and want to know the same. JMHO

PS...I did not abandon ship but was forced by good will to allow equal time online to DH.  Sh*t happens.  

I feel for you 2NJ, I can't imagine having to share again.  I've had to before, with my sons; and it caused many angry moments around here!  

 

Does that mean if there was one piece of bread left, you'd keep the whole damn thing?        That's not how I perceived you.  

They ARE boys...I don't stand a chance with the food!  I wouldn't even get a crumb if there was one piece of bread...and I'd gladly give it to them.  The computer is a different story!

 

  I feel the same way...When My kids come to visit I cringe eveytime I walk into the room and one of them is on MY computer.....Its mine all mine! 

[2NJSons_Mom]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23302581#23302581



I know some still believe the man in the red shirt may have been John Silvetti.  In this picture, I think the yellow arrow points to the visitor tag he was wearing.  It couldn't be seen in most of the other pictures we have because of Richardson standing in front of him.

I want to know WHO he is, and I'd also really like to know WHERE John Silvetti was while the taping was going on.

I was never convinced, TM....I agree and want to know the same. JMHO

PS...I did not abandon ship but was forced by good will to allow equal time online to DH.  Sh*t happens.  

I feel for you 2NJ, I can't imagine having to share again.  I've had to before, with my sons; and it caused many angry moments around here!  

 

Does that mean if there was one piece of bread left, you'd keep the whole damn thing?        That's not how I perceived you.  

They ARE boys...I don't stand a chance with the food!  I wouldn't even get a crumb if there was one piece of bread...and I'd gladly give it to them.  The computer is a different story!

 

When I think I have something in the 'fridge' most likely it won't be there when I look for it.  I was JK about the bread.  We have this computer and it's a time of year that he has some things he has to work on.  That could mean certain times of the day, too.  I did not LIKE doing something else while he was online.

Rob,  I once video'd my DH's reunion and someone commented that I was not in it.  There was a mirror in the banquet room and at the end of the evening, during a 'friends' circle....voila...there I as in the mirror with camera to my eye. 

I did think all of those stills were from Dateline, but I may be mistaken. 

[texasmom]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23302581#23302581



I know some still believe the man in the red shirt may have been John Silvetti.  In this picture, I think the yellow arrow points to the visitor tag he was wearing.  It couldn't be seen in most of the other pictures we have because of Richardson standing in front of him.

I want to know WHO he is, and I'd also really like to know WHERE John Silvetti was while the taping was going on.

I was never convinced, TM....I agree and want to know the same. JMHO

PS...I did not abandon ship but was forced by good will to allow equal time online to DH.  Sh*t happens.  

I feel for you 2NJ, I can't imagine having to share again.  I've had to before, with my sons; and it caused many angry moments around here!  

 

Does that mean if there was one piece of bread left, you'd keep the whole damn thing?        That's not how I perceived you.  

They ARE boys...I don't stand a chance with the food!  I wouldn't even get a crumb if there was one piece of bread...and I'd gladly give it to them.  The computer is a different story!

 

  I feel the same way...When My kids come to visit I cringe eveytime I walk into the room and one of them is on MY computer.....Its mine all mine! 

 

[hotping]

hotping, 2NJSons_Mom, texasmom, Debbie, wreck, Keepthefaith, Seamonkey, cajun miracle and 9 Guests

[texasmom]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

[texasmom]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23302581#23302581



I know some still believe the man in the red shirt may have been John Silvetti.  In this picture, I think the yellow arrow points to the visitor tag he was wearing.  It couldn't be seen in most of the other pictures we have because of Richardson standing in front of him.

I want to know WHO he is, and I'd also really like to know WHERE John Silvetti was while the taping was going on.

I thought the guy in the red shirt looked alot like the Weather Guy....

I still do too, and I still think the other guy near him looks like the younger weather guy.

I would LOVE to know for sure if it was them or not!

 

I agree TM.....We will find out one of these days...just gotta keep diggin....and if it was Them why were They involved on the Persistence.....a personal reason maybe...like some involvement in Natalee's Disappearance..... 

When I was thinking about WHY they would be on there...being fishermen is the only thing I could think of.  But I don't know if they actually use traps or not.  I know they own a fishing charter, and supposedly have caught fish for the restaurant they own for years from what I gather.  I've also thought that if it was them that could possibly be how the VDS parents knew to be out watching from the beach when they were.  I haven't ruled them out as having something to do with the case otherwise either.  Lots of things have made me go hmmmm.

[Keepthefaith]

APRIL 20, 2007, Superior Offshore and Company insiders sold over 10 million shares of common stock to the public, raising gross proceeds in excess of $152 million
http://securities.stanford.edu/1039/DEEP_01/


NOVEMBER 2007 LOUIS SCHAEFER SELLS HIS STOCK:

11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.84
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.82
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 62 $8.80
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 187 $8.75
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 125 $8.74
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.72
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 313 $8.71
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 658 $8.70
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 313 $8.69
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.68
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.64
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.60
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.50
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 94 $8.42
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.34
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.23
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 31 $8.22
11/15/07 SCHAEFER LOUIS E JR Sell 62 $8.17

AFTER SELLING OFF HIS STOCK AND RUNNING OUT OF MONEY TO CONTINUE THE SEARCH IN ARUBA LOUIS SCHAEFER TURNS AROUND AND BUYS CAPTAIN ELLIOTT'S CHARTER BUSINESS AND A BED & BREAKFAST.

January 4, 2008 -  Kemah resident Louis Schaefer, chairman of Superior Offshore International Inc., a worldwide commercial diving company, has bought the two boats and is expected to close on a deal to buy the docks and buildings next month, said Casey Cundieff, vice president of Captain Elliott’s.

FEBRUARY 1, 2008 Superior is reorganizing & in a cash flow crunch.
http://tinyurl.com/55995b


FEBRUARY 29 LAWSUIT ANNOUNCED ON SCHAEFFER'S COMPANY BY A LAW FIRM IN LOUISIANA
http://au.us.biz.yahoo.com/iw/080229/0368776.html



APRIL 24 OF ALL OF THE OFFICERS RESIGNED FROM SUPERIOR OFFSHORE COMPANY

APRIL 25 THEY ANNOUNCED FILING A CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080425/laf521.html?.v=2

On May 8, 2008, the Company filed a motion with the Court for authority to sell a
12-Man 300 meter skid-mounted saturation diving system and related
equipment to Global Industries Offshore LLC (“Global”) for a cash payment
of $6,750,000.00

April 20, 2007-  defendants conducted the IPO pursuant to a false and misleading
Registration Statement and Prospectus filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC").

4/25/07 - Louis Schafer and R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR. were selling their stocks

Schaefer sold or otherwise disposed of over 1.725 million shares of his Superior Offshore stock for proceeds of $25.87 million in the Offering.

Defendant Koch prepared and signed the materially false and misleading Registration Statement.
Koch sold 1.3 million shares of Superior Offshore stock through Schaefer Holdings LLP for
proceeds of $19.5 million in the Offering. During the relevant period, Koch sold an additional
64,667 shares of his Superior Offshore stock for proceeds of over $634,486.15.
Source: Case 6:08-cv-00400
Document 1
Filed 03/25/2008
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KFT Re: Natalee Case Discussion #802 2/21/08 -
« Reply #889 on: Today at 10:45:04 PM »
Kermit!But after the unloading of close to a 100 million dollars in stock they didn't have any more money for the  search in Aruba??????? :http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=1ccc3bdbbe3b980b734123b5971eff0b;topic=4574.new#new



Feb. 11, 2008 Kyle asked for donations
Feb. 14, 2008 Kyle flew to the east coast to meet with media executives to sell the ROV footage
March 1, 2008 The Persistence asked for donations and said they had to leave, they ran out of money
April 3, 2008 John Silvetti asked for donations at BFN
April April 20, 2007-  defendants conducted the IPO pursuant to a false and misleading
Registration Statement and Prospectus filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC").
4/25/07 - Louis Schafer and R. JOSHUA KOCH, JR. were selling their stocks

BUMP

[2NJSons_Mom]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I'm holding out on that from what I know about TV video production from people I know. 

[texasmom]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I'm holding out on that from what I know about TV video production from people I know. 

 

I know absolutely nothing about how that all works!  Just thought it might be a possibility.

[2NJSons_Mom]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I'm holding out on that from what I know about TV video production from people I know. 

 

I know absolutely nothing about how that all works!  Just thought it might be a possibility.

It should all be mentioned in the credits, is a thought.   Production companies have their own videographers or contract them, to my knowledge.  If they used footage that was taken by anyone other, then I would think the credits would/should state that....unless there was some other transaction prior that I would have no knowledge of. 

[texasmom]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I'm holding out on that from what I know about TV video production from people I know. 

 

I know absolutely nothing about how that all works!  Just thought it might be a possibility.

It should all be mentioned in the credits, is a thought.   Production companies have their own videographers or contract them, to my knowledge.  If they used footage that was taken by anyone other, then I would think the credits would/should state that....unless there was some other transaction prior that I would have no knowledge of. 

Thanks 2NJ!   

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_59966.php

Google translation:

Prime Minister Oduber: 'Valero not turn back'

23 Jul, 2009, 13:08 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY - In a TV interview gave Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) that Valero currently busy looking for hard currency and the refinery in Aruba as soon as possible of the hand to do. "They want to sell, that is final. I think Valero ready to Aruba. "

Meanwhile there is a growing uncertainty among employees and contractors at the refinery. Since the closure of the refinery last week only maintenance and repair work performed. According to the workers, the current owner to the facility as attractive as possible for potential buyers without too much investment. The doubts that Valero will have the owner of the refinery if the weather turning, the employees and contractors with the day. The company holds at least the rigid jaws together and makes no statement regarding the future of the refinery.

Petro China
Last week were representatives of oil company Petro China to the island to negotiate with the government about possible investment and fiscal conditions in a possible takeover of the facilities. To be present at these talks would not be prejudice. Even before the negotiations said Prime Minister Nelson Oduber stated that Petro China and the Valero could not agree on a price for the refinery. In addition to Petro China would have a Swiss and a Russian oil company interest and would have shown the Brazilian Petrobras the door still ajar have. Even then, he also implied that the future of the refinery in the long run the greatest risk was not as large-scale investment in upgrades of the facilities. An injection of over a half billion dollars needed to raise the refinery to the standards of our time to. In the short term, the risk of the refinery at least as acute as long as there is from Venezuela and Mexico discounts to heavy sour crude oil. The fact that Aruba, in contrast to oil-producing countries in the region, no oil refining industry for making the site vulnerable. An operator who is willing not only to make money in a stabbing obsolete refinery but also, in contrast to Valero, it refines its own oil would be possible solution. Both Petro China and Petrobras have their own oil for refining.

[Magnolia]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I do not remember anything about the weather guys. ::MonkeyWaa::Please tell me.

[2NJSons_Mom]

YW, Texasmom....and I do not claim to know ALL, by any means. 

Goodnight, everyone....See you, later. 

We're not going away. 

Justice for Natalee, is our focus.

(anyone else looking at double spaced posts and trying to relate them to members we've known?  Just a thought.)      Leave no stone overturned.       

[2NJSons_Mom]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I do not remember anything about the weather guys. ::MonkeyWaa::Please tell me.

I'm so glad you said this....I thought the same and then got sidetracked with video stills. 

Goodnight, again....I'll catch up later. 

[hotping]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I do not remember anything about the weather guys. ::MonkeyWaa::Please tell me.

This will tell You about it Magnolia...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5523.0

[Magnolia]

2NJ, the stills are from Dateline.  I was thinking if Rob is right maybe they submitted the footage for the story.

JMO

I do not remember anything about the weather guys. ::MonkeyWaa::Please tell me.

This will tell You about it Magnolia...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5523.0

Thank you, hotping.   I don't know how I missed the weather guys.  I will study up.