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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 - 7/28/09 (Read 444155 times)
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Anna
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #180 on:
July 19, 2009, 09:54:37 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2009, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 01:00:27 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2009, 12:55:27 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2009, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 12:16:54 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2009, 10:17:31 AM
Prior to Kyle Kingman's own words ever becoming an issue ... MumInOhio began having her doubts about CAPS and ... made a stand by questioning his flawed research ... discrepancies ... changing theories and ... overall distraction. Then suddenly Mum backtracked. I requested an explanation for the flip flop and ... was respectfully told that she was not ready to share.
What does it take to be deemed worthy to be among the "informed"?
Janet
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Who said they are worthy and they are the ones informed. Just because they "think" they are informed doesn't mean they are.
CAPS was a diversion and here to distract. I never believed his crap and I never will. JMO.
San ... I was being sarcastic.
Our prodical Monkeys were either deceived by somebody very influencial/pursuasive or ...
they are part of the deception to protect John Silvetti ... to protect the Arubans ...
from being held accountable for actions encompassing the trap issue. IMO.
I would just love to know who has the power ... the influence ... to deceive prodical Monkeys like SS and MumInOhio who saw the light in regards to the Persistence/CAPS deception and ... then flip flopped and returned to the fold.
Janet
And where did it get Mum and SS. What did they accomplish. Were you fooled by them.
Did they influence you.
The only thing that influences people is money.
San
Mum and SS or any of the prodical Monkeys have never shared any backup their positions. They only undermine our positions for which backup is provided.
Janet
Exactly Janet. They never provided squat.
One thing about you Janet you always provide backup. Backup is where it is at.
They never ever provided backup and when you don't provide it why should we believe the person posting.
Not one of them have ever provided any back up of the information that caused them to change their view of Caps and/or the Persistence mission. Instead they have attacked many that are still here, most especially Kermit; in ways that indicate to me that their "information" has not been provided by Natalee's family. I really don't think any of Natalee's loved ones would condone the sick attacks that have been made. Those attacks haven't changed anything except our opinions of some former monkeys..or that's how I feel about it anyway. Did they/do they really think posting personal information, childish pictures, and heinous lies about SM and many of us here would really sway anyone to their way of thinking? I just don't get it!
And just where were those remains Capslockwizard (WLC per his own system of identity, lol) repeatedly stated would be found in that pond? What's the excuse on that whopper? All Dave had to do was go down and collect them.
Yet when I repeated what Hans Mos told me verbatim, I was the one lying? Hardly! But it is very telling as to who is willing to believe whom and I just have to wonder why.
And BASTIBRO, where's my bracelet? You promised!
billb will be very jealous of my quote stack in this post.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 19, 2009, 10:02:03 PM »
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 07:30:58 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on July 19, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
I need to ask ya'll something.
The couple that was killed in the Florida panhandle once owned a strip club called
Back Seat.
Wasn't that one of Mr. Pink's company names?
I am wanting to say it was Back Seat Bangers? I could be wrong.
Thanks, Blue Moon. I was thinking it was Back Seat Productions. Surely, there is no connection.
BlueMoon,
I remember it as Back Seat Bangers as well but that could be the name of their "episodes" or whatever they call them, encounters, whatever and they are produced by a company with similar name. I sort of doubt there is a connection to this murdered couple as like the Lions' Den, I think that may be a common name in the sleaze industry.
However, there is something very hinky about this murder because they could have just taken the safe and left the couple alive but bound and gagged, etc. I think it was a professional hit for some reason or other.
And authorities have said there was an international connection. Maybe drugs? Am watching this case closely as I agree there is much more to it than a simple home invasion.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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I don't know if Natalee's remains were in that trap or not and the reason I don't know is because only ALE was given access and collected from it and I simply don't believe a word they say about much of anything.
That aspect could and should have been handled very differently. Sometimes I wonder if ALE had the remains, made them disappear maybe into the trap and they keep being brought back to them. Now wouldn't that be something. Just speculating but I bet the thought has crossed more minds than just my own.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
from 2NJ:
San, I love your website photo & message.
Sand what is your website photo?
NICE, he was a hunk in his days. I bearly remember Rawhide but I do remember sitting and being fixed on his face.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 19, 2009, 10:25:08 PM »
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
from 2NJ:
San, I love your website photo & message.
Sand what is your website photo?
Or
"Go ahead...make my day."
I can hear him saying it! woooohoooo!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 19, 2009, 10:42:10 PM »
Calling it a night. Have a good one.
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If you ask the wrong question, of course, you get the wrong answer. We find in design it’s much more important and difficult to ask the right question. Once you do that, the right answer becomes obvious.<br />Quote: Amory Lovins
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 19, 2009, 11:01:28 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
Calling it a night. Have a good one.
Good night Blue Moon!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #187 on:
July 19, 2009, 11:09:07 PM »
Quote from: Anna on July 19, 2009, 09:54:37 PM
Quote from: texasmom on July 19, 2009, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 01:00:27 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2009, 12:55:27 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2009, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 12:16:54 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2009, 10:17:31 AM
Prior to Kyle Kingman's own words ever becoming an issue ... MumInOhio began having her doubts about CAPS and ... made a stand by questioning his flawed research ... discrepancies ... changing theories and ... overall distraction. Then suddenly Mum backtracked. I requested an explanation for the flip flop and ... was respectfully told that she was not ready to share.
What does it take to be deemed worthy to be among the "informed"?
Janet
+++++
Who said they are worthy and they are the ones informed. Just because they "think" they are informed doesn't mean they are.
CAPS was a diversion and here to distract. I never believed his crap and I never will. JMO.
San ... I was being sarcastic.
Our prodical Monkeys were either deceived by somebody very influencial/pursuasive or ...
they are part of the deception to protect John Silvetti ... to protect the Arubans ...
from being held accountable for actions encompassing the trap issue. IMO.
I would just love to know who has the power ... the influence ... to deceive prodical Monkeys like SS and MumInOhio who saw the light in regards to the Persistence/CAPS deception and ... then flip flopped and returned to the fold.
Janet
And where did it get Mum and SS. What did they accomplish. Were you fooled by them.
Did they influence you.
The only thing that influences people is money.
San
Mum and SS or any of the prodical Monkeys have never shared any backup their positions. They only undermine our positions for which backup is provided.
Janet
Exactly Janet. They never provided squat.
One thing about you Janet you always provide backup. Backup is where it is at.
They never ever provided backup and when you don't provide it why should we believe the person posting.
Not one of them have ever provided any back up of the information that caused them to change their view of Caps and/or the Persistence mission. Instead they have attacked many that are still here, most especially Kermit; in ways that indicate to me that their "information" has not been provided by Natalee's family. I really don't think any of Natalee's loved ones would condone the sick attacks that have been made. Those attacks haven't changed anything except our opinions of some former monkeys..or that's how I feel about it anyway. Did they/do they really think posting personal information, childish pictures, and heinous lies about SM and many of us here would really sway anyone to their way of thinking? I just don't get it!
And just where were those remains Capslockwizard (WLC per his own system of identity, lol) repeatedly stated would be found in that pond? What's the excuse on that whopper? All Dave had to do was go down and collect them.
Yet when I repeated what Hans Mos told me verbatim, I was the one lying? Hardly! But it is very telling as to who is willing to believe whom and I just have to wonder why.
And BASTIBRO, where's my bracelet? You promised!
billb will be very jealous of my quote stack in this post.
The pond, The cemetary, The Cave, Bits and pieces (he/they said peaces iirc) all over the place, but still at least one part at the pond. Well....Dave finally spent the money and sent Golba to search the pond...nothing. Wonder what the story is now. Maybe back to the cemetary or the cave?
I'm just glad I'm not caught up in all that BS anymore.
The stories that group came up with...they'll pay one day. I'm counting on it!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Reply #188 on:
July 19, 2009, 11:25:54 PM »
Quote from: San on July 19, 2009, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on July 19, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
from 2NJ:
San, I love your website photo & message.
Sand what is your website photo?
Yep....and I think there's a few more that feel that way....if we get half way there, it's still good. Make my day.
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R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!
I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Justice for Natalee.
See you, later.
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R.I.P Dear 2NJ - say hi to Peaches for us!
I expect a miracle _Peaches ~ ~ May She Rest In Peace.
SOMEONE KNOWS THE TRUTH
None of us here just fell off the turnip truck. - Magnolia
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: 2NJSons_Mom on July 20, 2009, 12:21:56 AM
Justice for Natalee.
See you, later.
Later 2nj..
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Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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MARRIOTT VACATION CLUB APPOINTS NEW GENERAL MANAGER AT MARRIOTT'S FRENCHMAN'S COVE
ORLANDO, Fla. – May 26, 2009 – Marriott Vacation Club International (MVCI) – the vacation ownership division of Marriott International, Inc. (NYSE:MAR) – has appointed
Pieter Knot
to general manager at Marriott's Frenchman's Cove on St. Thomas, U.S.V.I.
http://www.arda.org/Content/NavigationMenu/PressRoom/MemberPressReleases/June2009/042609_Marriott.pdf
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Good Night Monkeys! Good Night Zookeepers!
Janet
10:10 PM PT
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 20, 2009, 01:07:51 AM
Good Night Monkeys! Good Night Zookeepers!
Janet
10:10 PM PT
Good night Janet!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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I'm calling it a night too! Good night KTF!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on July 20, 2009, 01:15:23 AM
I'm calling it a night too! Good night KTF!
GoodNight Janet & TM..Got my head buried in the computer but,need to go to bed myself..God Bless!
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Quote from: texasmom on July 20, 2009, 12:52:34 AM
Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Quote from: texasmom on July 20, 2009, 01:17:37 AM
Quote from: texasmom on July 20, 2009, 12:52:34 AM
Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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FL couple = Back Seat, Inc.
Pensacola strip club Arety's Angels
Billings worked as a consultant for Back Seat Inc., a holding company for a topless bar
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31960212/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
connection/Mr. Pink/Paul B. / doubtful
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===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Natalee Holloway
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