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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 - 7/28/09 (Read 439896 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
The hambone connected to the leg bone
Insert a couple of additional names, my friend, and I believe you've got it nailed.
But now with a LOCATION for this person - it should be fairly easy for International Law Enforcement to track down this puppet master. Either with or without the help of those at GM and CNG.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: jen3560 on July 27, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
The hambone connected to the leg bone
Insert a couple of additional names, my friend, and I believe you've got it nailed.
But now with a LOCATION for this person - it should be fairly easy for International Law Enforcement to track down this puppet master. Either with or without the help of those at GM and CNG.
WOW...JUST WOW... THANKS JEN AND KERMIT!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on July 27, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Is this meant to be a joke?Funny?Implying that i'm helping Bastibro?I'm very confused...
of course it was a joke - no one thinks that you have anything to do with Bastibro. I should had added a disclaimer. I apologize - simply teasing Bastibro and not you KTF...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2009, 12:45:58 PM
OK Monkeys ... considering the answer is forthcoming ... let the speculating begin.
Janet
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ARUBAN CONNECTION - SPECULATION
DOMPIG AND SATISH OR DEEPAK OR MICHAEL ?
KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS[/b]
Kyle Kingman:
Just before Christmas they are contacted by a detective and his brother who gave them information that turned out to be the correct latitude
Kyle Kingman:
While we were searching shortly before Christmas, we were contacted by an Aruban detective who was involved in the Holloway case. He claimed that his brother had a vision about Natalee˘s body offshore and had coordinates. He and his brother agreed to meet on the Persistence. The detective˘s brother gave what he thought were coordinates, but turned out to be a line of latitude. This latitude aligned with Arashi beach and came within a half mile of the fish trap.
Kyle Kingman:
IF a keydetective's brother knew the latitude the trap was disposed at or very near, then it's probable the detective knew the same.
Kyle Kingman:
The detective and his brother were both brown-skinned, but not black.
Kyle Kingman:
the detective was very internet and computer savy, which was unusual for the bulk of the Polis.
Kyle Kingman:
It seemed he knew who I was when we were introduced, and said something indicating he had been reading the blog.
Kyle Kingman:
The brother of the detective came to us and was very persistent over the information. He was almost in tears and just had to "clear his conscience" about it. His brother, the detective came with him to 'validate him'.
Kyle Kingman:
I think he used his brother and gave us only the amount of information he felt we needed to come across the trap. Basically, by using his brother and claiming the information he shared was only based on a vision, it distances the detective from responsibility and makes it hard to point back to him should it be a problem later.
Kyle Kingman:
However, this man was intelligent enough, cared about the case, yet was self implicated to a high enough level to want to be kept his knowledge a secret. He spoke well enough english and knew everything in my opinion.
Kyle Kingman:
The implications of this are tremendous. If true, it means that the early investigators knew where and how Natalee was disposed and it was kept secret and covered up.
Kyle Kingman:
Since the trap was only in 90ft of water and the detective knew about the latitude, did the Polis already know if it's location prior to the search?
Kyle Kingman:
The tip Dave got said the trap was 2-3 miles offshore. I found this one 2-3 miles offshore. 2.1-2.2 miles if memory serves.
Kyle Kingman:
The detective originally wouldn't meet with us and only wanted us to meet with his brother. We convinced him to meet along with his brother and made him feel as comfortable as possible. He reluctantly agreed but wouldn't talk.
Kyle Kingman:
After a while the detective started asking some questions and loosened up a bit. With the pointed questions he asked he proved he knew a lot, but we didn't press him
Kyle Kingman:
"Here's a shocker: the confession from one of the former suspects I was refering to was NOT Joran.
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DOMPIG: - SEARCH THE OCEAN
FOX ONLINE - JAMIE COLBY
July 15, 2007
TIM MILLER: ... Gerold Dompig actually told us when Dave and I was over there; that he felt that Natalee was out in the water, that the night the fishermen's hut was broken into, a knife was stolen, a rope was stolen and a large crab trap was stolen.
Gerold Dompig's words were "Natalee was put in that crab trap, they put rocks in it and they took her out 3 to 5 miles and she's 800 to 1,000 feet deep"
and we always thought about the water anyhow.
CORRUPTION IN PARADISE - DAVE HOLLOWAY
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We had recently gotten another tip that the boys did do something to Natalee and that they either left her at the boat launch or the lighthouse. From there, they supposedly went to a field area where the gardener saw them while they planned their next move. According to the tip, after that, they went home and returned the next day to the fishermen's huts to get a steel cage to put Natalee into; they then used a boat to carry her about two to three miles out into the ocean and drop her there. The tip was sent in an e-mail, and we forwarded it to Dompig. He claimed that was one of the reasons to search at sea now instead of at the landfill ...
GEROLD DOMPIG AND FRED GOLBA
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for March 15
updated 9:08 a.m. PT, Thurs., March. 16, 2006
COSBY: You know, Steve, we‘ve had Tim Miller from EquuSearch, all these different guys on there. They were all sort of turned down by Dompig and it seemed like the Aruban government, of course, the chief of police there. Why this team?
STEVE COHEN, SPECIAL ADVISER TO ARUBAN GOVERNMENT: Well, it‘s a process, of course, that goes back to the Forensic Institute of Holland. Chief Dompig has been back there twice now.
And I think what was happening was a determination of just exactly what techniques, in terms of specificity, could one investigator bring to bear versus another? And, of course,
Dompig and Fred have established a strong rapport and a great deal of trust between them, and that‘s why he is there.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11857796/
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Kermit
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: jen3560 on July 27, 2009, 04:52:46 PM
Here is my own personal message to all FORMER AND CURRENT members of both CNG and GM.
Now is the time for those who have been posting alongside this person at CNG -
FROM THE BEGINNING
- who may not have known this was going on.
Now is the time for all of them to open their eyes, and come forward.
Now is the time for them to oust this person - BY NAME - publicly.
You've all been had.
You've been had by the very people who first helped Joran and Paulus van der Sloot cover up their crimes against Natalee Holloway.
The very people who prevented her Justice four years ago.
The very people who denied her family the answers they so deserve, and who denied them the return of their loved ones remains.
And this is for the CNG members who post alongside this person STILL TODAY.
If any of you thinks I do not have a member list of CNG, and that I won't post it - think again.
Anyone who does NOT stand up now - well, that will tell me, personally, just whether or not you were and/or are unknowingly or KNOWINGLY helping to perpetuate this fraud against Natalee and her family.
The crap all stops NOW.
Remember why you all (ok most) sought out these forums in the first place.
It was for Natalee Holloway.
It was not for personal gain/glory.
It was not for bullshit childish games.
It was not for an "I'm right and you're wrong" stance.
Remember Natalee? Isn't it about time she got Justice?
Very well said!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 05:10:46 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on July 27, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Is this meant to be a joke?Funny?Implying that i'm helping Bastibro?I'm very confused...
of course it was a joke - no one thinks that you have anything to do with Bastibro. I should had added a disclaimer. I apologize - simply teasing Bastibro and not you KTF...
O'Lord.I thought i was in the twilight zone.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 27, 2009, 05:15:55 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on July 27, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
The hambone connected to the leg bone
Insert a couple of additional names, my friend, and I believe you've got it nailed.
But now with a LOCATION for this person - it should be fairly easy for International Law Enforcement to track down this puppet master. Either with or without the help of those at GM and CNG.
I know have the puppets' names - all of them - from the info you complied... and I think I have the master puppeteer.
However, I will allow you the room you need and the finale that is rightfully yours'... respectfully.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 27, 2009, 05:17:06 PM »
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
add: Lorenzo Webb, RV aka Capslockwizard, Geerman, Kawish Miesier
SusanESmithphotobucket.com, P. McL, Destiny.
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on July 27, 2009, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 05:10:46 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on July 27, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Is this meant to be a joke?Funny?Implying that i'm helping Bastibro?I'm very confused...
of course it was a joke - no one thinks that you have anything to do with Bastibro. I should had added a disclaimer. I apologize - simply teasing Bastibro and not you KTF...
O'Lord.I thought i was in the twilight zone.
that was my fault - no harm
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 27, 2009, 05:17:48 PM »
Quote from: jen3560 on July 27, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
The hambone connected to the leg bone
Insert a couple of additional names, my friend, and I believe you've got it nailed.
But now with a LOCATION for this person - it should be fairly easy for International Law Enforcement to track down this puppet master. Either with or without the help of those at GM and CNG.
WHY??
What incentive ... what persuasion ... would those who we have posted along side of us for four years in regards to the corrupt investigation that has denied Natalee Holloway justice have received to become participants in such a betrayal to one of their own ... an American citizen.
It does not make sense.
Janet
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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July 27, 2009, 05:19:07 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on July 27, 2009, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
add: Lorenzo Webb, RV aka Capslockwizard, Geerman, Kawish Miesier
SusanESmithphotobucket.com, P. McL, Destiny.
wonder if this is what she meant when she said Dave KNEW why she was down there?
triffffflin' b
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on July 27, 2009, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 05:10:46 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on July 27, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
Is this meant to be a joke?Funny?Implying that i'm helping Bastibro?I'm very confused...
of course it was a joke - no one thinks that you have anything to do with Bastibro. I should had added a disclaimer. I apologize - simply teasing Bastibro and not you KTF...
O'Lord.I thought i was in the twilight zone.
that was my fault - no harm
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I will be very interested to see who the miscreants that are involved from Aruba to America.I must say that there is quite an audience...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #821 7/13/09 -
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Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 05:15:55 PM
Quote from: jen3560 on July 27, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
The hambone connected to the leg bone
Insert a couple of additional names, my friend, and I believe you've got it nailed.
But now with a LOCATION for this person - it should be fairly easy for International Law Enforcement to track down this puppet master. Either with or without the help of those at GM and CNG.
I know have the puppets' names - all of them - from the info you complied... and I think I have the master puppeteer.
However, I will allow you the room you need and the finale that is rightfully yours'... respectfully.
Just go for it Rob! Post the suckers!
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
WHY??
What incentive ... what persuasion ... would those who we have posted along side of us for four years in regards to the corrupt investigation that has denied Natalee Holloway justice have received to become participants in such a betrayal to one of their own ... an American citizen.
It does not make sense.
Janet
Mark Purcell
Julia Renfro
Rosalie Klien
all American
citizens
traitors!
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Quote from: Blonde on July 27, 2009, 05:22:57 PM
Hi Blonde.
You had posted something awhile back and I forgot to answer it. Sorry. I did read it though. lol
I just got busy with something.
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To those that haven't had Natalee Holloway's best interest at heart!
TICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCK
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Quote from: Kermit on July 27, 2009, 05:23:10 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
WHY??
What incentive ... what persuasion ... would those who we have posted along side of us for four years in regards to the corrupt investigation that has denied Natalee Holloway justice have received to become participants in such a betrayal to one of their own ... an American citizen.
It does not make sense.
Janet
Mark Purcell
Julia Renfro
Rosalie Klien
all American
citizens
traitors!
imo
John Silvetti
Louis Schaefer
Kyle Kingman
Tim Trahan
imo
And don't make me include posters names.
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Quote from: Kermit on July 27, 2009, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 27, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
It's Hotshot, Dompig, Jacobs and Burke.
add: Lorenzo Webb, RV aka Capslockwizard, Geerman, Kawish Miesier
SusanESmithphotobucket.com, P. McL, Destiny.
Add Eduardo and Jossy Mansur.
Janet
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Re: ANONIMO AKA CAPSLOCKWIZARD
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2009, 05:17:54 PM »
SPY ON BOARD?
KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS
Kyle Kingman:
We're close to finding the Dirty Hand and a major leak plaguing the investigation. I believe they're linked. I'm assuming Caps isn't deep inside ALE, but do we know that he isn't? We need to figure out who Cap's source is and what he does. Can we confirm Destiny's source is a Dairio reporter? If so, do we know who this would be? Could it be Eduardo Mansur???
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4722.msg735806;topicseen#msg735806
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on July 27, 2009, 05:25:14 PM
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TICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCKTICKTOCK
And that clock is not going to tick for very long.
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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