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« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2009, 11:12:10 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2009, 11:19:05 PM »

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Organization Name/
Address    FIRST CHURCH OF GOD
910 SYCAMORE ST
CLARKSTON, WA

99403-2139
Asset Amount    n/r
Income Amount    n/r
Form 990 Revenue Amount    n/r
Employer Identification Number
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(category under which an organization may be tax exempt)    Religious Organization
Filing Requirement
(the primary return(s) the organization is required to file)    Form 990 - Not required to file (church)
Taxonomy
(classifies an exempt Internal Revenue Code 501 (c)(3) organization)    n/r
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(another name under which this nonprofit organization does business. Also used for trade names, chapter names, or local numbers for subordinate organizations of group rulings)    n/r
Affiliation
(defines the organizational grouping)    This organization is a subordinate in a group ruling.
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« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2009, 11:19:12 PM »

First Church of GOD - Clarkston Washington
Where alleged abuse occurred in the eighties

Ok... this seems a bit weird...
Wrong church????
1 member???

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Address: 910 Sycamore Street, Clarkston, WA 99403
Denomination: Not listed
Service Times: Not listed
Members: 1

I don't think this is the correct church -- not a Church of God, heaven forbid, it would have to be a Baptist church
Lane pastored WA church in mid-1980s
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/1182/reftab/36/t/FBI-Visits-Washington-State-Church-Where-Huckaby-s-Grandfather-Was-Once-the-Pastor/Default.aspx
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« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2009, 11:37:34 PM »

Reverse Phone Search
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Dale Johnson

work
910 Sycamore St
Clarkston, WA 99403-2139

(509) 758-2363
Type: Land Line
Provider: Qwest Corporation
Location: Clarkston, WA
Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider.

Job title: Pastor
Company: First Church of God


Here's the church...
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http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&tab=wl&q=910%20Sycamore%20St%2C%20Clarkston%2C%20WA
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« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2009, 11:41:24 PM »

Good gravy, was there an Donald Earl Johnson we were searching for?  Don't quote me on that, me ole brain in slowed way down, but it does ring a bell.
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« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2009, 11:42:57 PM »

First Church of GOD - Clarkston Washington
Where alleged abuse occurred in the eighties

Ok... this seems a bit weird...
Wrong church????
1 member???

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Address: 910 Sycamore Street, Clarkston, WA 99403
Denomination: Not listed
Service Times: Not listed
Members: 1

I don't think this is the correct church -- not a Church of God, heaven forbid, it would have to be a Baptist church
Lane pastored WA church in mid-1980s
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/1182/reftab/36/t/FBI-Visits-Washington-State-Church-Where-Huckaby-s-Grandfather-Was-Once-the-Pastor/Default.aspx


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I think you are right!

Sources cited by KCRA indicate that the FBI's investigation centered on Pastor Clifford Lane Lawless, the grandfather of Melissa Huckaby. . KHe was reportedly the pastor of a church in the Lewiston-Clarkston area in the 1980's however KHQ was unable to confirm which church he lead because of a lack of records and the fact that several area churches have similar namesKCRA reports that Lawless was possibly questioned in connection with allegations of child abuse at the time of that original investigation. However the Asotin County Sheriff's Department and the Clarkston Police Department say they do not have any records of a criminal case ever being filed.

Pastor Bill Creutzberg in a telephone interview said that the FBI was "trying to put the pieces of their puzzle together. They were asking about certain people who might be able to lead them to other people."

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« Reply #66 on: June 14, 2009, 11:47:02 PM »

Whoa...
Check this out
So, he is listed at the same address...BOTH as Pastor!

Bill Creutzberg

work

910 Sycamore St
Clarkston, WA 99403-2139

(509) 758-2363
Type: unavailable
Provider: unavailable
Location: unavailable

Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider.

Job title: Pastor
Company: Clarkston First Church of God
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« Reply #67 on: June 14, 2009, 11:53:06 PM »

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FBI visits Clarkston church in connection with Sandra Cantu murder investigation

Current First Church of God Rev. Bill Creutzberg, who was not at the church at the time the allegations were made, said he was aware of an earlier investigation.

Video: Questions Surround Tracy Pastor, Former Church

"There are deep emotions about that incident," Creutzberg told KCRA 3. "People here never mention it."

[First Church of God]
First Church of God

Creutzberg said he was unsure if FBI agents visited First Church of God in relation to the earlier investigation or the Cantu case.

After going through records, Creutzberg said he couldn't find any evidence that Lawless ever regularly attended the church.

Instead of Lawless, Creutzberg said the FBI was more interested in talking with a former pastor named Dale Johnson.

"He just left town, and we never heard from him again," Clarkston resident Pamela Verges said.

Creutzberg said the FBI agent assured him that Johnson did nothing wrong.


Neighbors told KCRA 3 that Johnson left town when his house was foreclosed upon.
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« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2009, 12:00:07 AM »

So, this current Pastor Bill is saying that former Pastor Dale left without a word???...The one who was Pastor just after the incident with Pastor Lawless occurred???

And...

Paperwork and records were shotty so that they do not even know if Lane Lawless ever served there...
Whaaat???
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« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2009, 12:08:56 AM »

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The possible missing Pastor Dale??...

Dale Johnson

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15320 Mill Creek Blvd, Apt Z103

Mill Creek, WA 98012-1549

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Household: Richard C Dempsey, Melissa A Dempsey, Jessica A Dempsey, Lindsey Dempsey
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« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2009, 12:10:52 AM »

Dale Johnson is who the FBI is searching for.

The below is posted to remind to get the info on Rev. Harless, or whatever -- he is connected to CLL.  Just need to find again and cut and paste.
Children of MARY DODSON and JOHN SMITHSON are:
2.   i.   EFFIE JOETTA2 SMITHSON, b. September, Arkansas City, Arkansas, Arkansas, USA; d. 1971, Modesto, California, USA.
3.   ii.   HARVEY H SMITHSON, b. January 1878, Arkansas, USA.
   iii.   WALTER BURTON SMITHSON, b. 1883.
   iv.   GREENBURY SMITHSON, b. 1890.
   v.   OLLIE ELNORA SMITHSON, b. 1892.
   vi.   ELLA SMITHSON, b. 1895.
   vii.   MAUDE SMITHSON, b. 1898.


Generation No. 2

2.  EFFIE JOETTA2 SMITHSON (MARY E1 DODSON) was born September in Arkansas City, Arkansas, Arkansas, USA, and died 1971 in Modesto, California, USA.  She married JOHN BAILEY "WILLIS" COOPER June 23, 1901 in Webbers Falls, Haskell, Oklahoma, USA, son of HENRY COOPER and SARAH CURRY.  He was born November 30, 1880 in Jasper, Newton, Arkansas, USA, and died 1956 in California, USA.
   
Children of EFFIE SMITHSON and JOHN COOPER are:
4.   i.   IRENE3 COOPER, b. August 07, 1921, Wynona, Oklahoma, USA.
   ii.   UNKNOWN COOPER, m. PASTOR HARLESS.

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« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2009, 12:18:03 AM »

Good gravy, was there an Donald Earl Johnson we were searching for?  Don't quote me on that, me ole brain in slowed way down, but it does ring a bell.

When plugging in the name Dale Johnson...
I got this Sister...
I know the middle name is off ...but you know HOW that GOES! Monkey Devil!
   JOHNSON,�DONALD�J (Age 59)

Alias:
�JOHNSON,�DALE�A
�JOHNSON,�DON�A
�JOHNSON,�DONALD�A
   Available(6)    Available

BATON ROUGE,�LA
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VANCOUVER,�WA    

Possible Relatives:
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PENNEBAKER,�KIMBERLY�ANN
JOHNSON,�KAREN�M�(Age�52)
JOHNSON,�PAUL�MICHAEL�(Age�31)
JOHNSON,�DON
JOHNSON,�CORI
JOHNSON,�LORA�L�(Age�45)

Possible Roommates / Associates:
DMITRIYEV,�IVAN�VASILYEVICH�(Age�80)
WILLIAMS,�RUSSELL�B�(Age�32)
NOSENKO,�LEONID�G�(Age�69)

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« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2009, 12:24:14 AM »

back some time ago, Blink asked about this Dale Johnson.  Tomorrow I'll find her question.  We never could find one tied to the Lawless clan.
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« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2009, 12:30:20 AM »

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I do not know if this is the CORRECT Dale Johnson...

Name
DALE A JOHNSON    Info



Recent Image of Offender

Employer Address

Residence Name
DALE A JOHNSON    Address
8996 SMOKY ROW RD    City/State/ZIP Code
GREENS FORK,INDIANA 47345    County
WAYNE

School Address

none found
Employer Address

Employer Name
MANCHESTER INDUSTRIES    Address
63 PAUL FOULKE DR.    City/State/ZIP Code
HAGERSTWON,INDIANA 47346    County
WAYNE

Physical Description

Age
52    Sex
Male    Race
White    Complexion
Medium
Height
5' 09    Weight
175 lb    Eye Color
Blue    Hair Color
Gray or Partially Gray
Build
Medium

Aliases

none found
Charges

Charge
[Out Of State Charge] IN - CHILD MOLESTING    Cause
18D01-9202-CF-17    Sentence
5 YEARS    Conviction County
DELAWARE
Conviction State

INDIANA    Conviction Date
Thu Aug 27 00:00:00 EDT 1992

Status

Status
ACTIVE    Offender Type
LIFETIME NOTIFICATION    Released
Fri Jan 20 00:00:00 EST 1995    End Registration Date
Next Registration Date
Tue Jul 07 00:00:00 EDT 2009    Remarks
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« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2009, 12:32:52 AM »

back some time ago, Blink asked about this Dale Johnson.  Tomorrow I'll find her question.  We never could find one tied to the Lawless clan.

I wonder if HOW they connect...
Is thru this church Pastor Lane was accused of molesting a child in WA?!
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« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2009, 12:42:02 AM »

I can't remember and it's almost 1 a.m. here and me tired.
Nite new dear friend.
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« Reply #76 on: June 15, 2009, 12:45:33 AM »

I can't remember and it's almost 1 a.m. here and me tired.
Nite new dear friend.
 an angelic monkey
Me too,
I'm sleepy!!!
Night-Night Sweet Sister!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! an angelic monkey

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You are really AWESOME!!!!
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« Reply #77 on: June 15, 2009, 01:27:15 AM »

I remember watching a video of two people interviewed in front of the church, there was a sign out there and this is the right church you have.  I have the info somewhere will try to find it tomorrow.  Its somewhere in my notes or on a private board, I will try to find it, maybe the video is still up.  anyway the two people interviewed were also both named johnson a man and a woman, I think I remember his name was bob johnson?  let me find that tomorrow.  and they said something about being really worried this was all being brought up and they did not feel safe or something to that affect, it was weird. 

falling asleep so will look for this tomorrow, if I forget, someone remind me.
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« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2009, 03:40:19 PM »

tracy non-profit tax exempt
Donald R Huckaby (above posts)


FIRM FOUNDATION PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH OF CHRIST
647 LOURENCE CT
TRACY, CA
95376-8737
Asset Amount n/r
Income Amount n/r
Form 990 Revenue Amount n/r
Employer Identification Number
(nine digit number assigned by the IRS to identify a company) (available with data download)
In Care Of Name
(the officer, director, etc. to whose attention any correspondence should be directed) DONALD R HUCKABY see above
Classification
(category under which an organization may be tax exempt) Religious Organization
Filing Requirement
(the primary return(s) the organization is required to file) Form 990 - Not required to file (church)
Taxonomy
(classifies an exempt Internal Revenue Code 501 (c)(3) organization) Religion Related, Spiritual Development N.E.C.
Secondary Name
(another name under which this nonprofit organization does business. Also used for trade names, chapter names, or local numbers for subordinate organizations of group rulings) n/r
Affiliation
(defines the organizational grouping) This organization is an independent organization or an independent auxiliary (i.e., not affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of organizations).
Deductibility Status Contributions are deductible
Principal Activity (available with data download)
Foundation Type Church
Tax Period
(the date of the latest return filed) n/r
Accounting Period
(accounting month end date of organization) 12
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« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2009, 04:29:48 PM »

tracy non-profit tax exempt
Donald R Huckaby (above posts)
HUH???  whoa
I wonder if he's related to Johnny???

 



FIRM FOUNDATION PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH OF CHRIST
647 LOURENCE CT
TRACY, CA
95376-8737
Asset Amount n/r
Income Amount n/r
Form 990 Revenue Amount n/r
Employer Identification Number
(nine digit number assigned by the IRS to identify a company) (available with data download)
In Care Of Name
(the officer, director, etc. to whose attention any correspondence should be directed) DONALD R HUCKABY see above
Classification
(category under which an organization may be tax exempt) Religious Organization
Filing Requirement
(the primary return(s) the organization is required to file) Form 990 - Not required to file (church)
Taxonomy
(classifies an exempt Internal Revenue Code 501 (c)(3) organization) Religion Related, Spiritual Development N.E.C.
Secondary Name
(another name under which this nonprofit organization does business. Also used for trade names, chapter names, or local numbers for subordinate organizations of group rulings) n/r
Affiliation
(defines the organizational grouping) This organization is an independent organization or an independent auxiliary (i.e., not affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of organizations).
Deductibility Status Contributions are deductible
Principal Activity (available with data download)
Foundation Type Church
Tax Period
(the date of the latest return filed) n/r
Accounting Period
(accounting month end date of organization) 12

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