Lively Case Discussion #543 11/14 - 11/15/2006

[dkpen]

New Google Alert post...

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Night Klaas, sweet dreams!  

[memphis]

nite Klaas

I'm following....nite everyone

[dkpen]

night memphis

[Anna]

From:
http://www.bastardly.com/archives/2005/07/23/what-really-happened-to-natalee-holloway/

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 at 11:42 am
ALLYINMIAMI wrote:

Stefani–u get a life this is AllyinMiami…my email was alina626@aol.com …it is me…i have nothing to hide…I still converse with Katcall, CRS, Jake, and everyone else on SM..(but we are no longer there, as u know we were banned)…Therefore, i really do not give a shit if u believe me or not; however, checkme “Rick”…and Simian “Es la unica hija”….email me jalicealina@aol.com ….Whoah….what a surprise, i have ally’s exact last name…check my IP address it is the same one…

Would this be the Ally the prom date or the All the thirty year old??

I think a lot of us have heard and read things and think things but we don't know things for a fact.  Same with the riddlers.  They may have known a few things in the beginning like who was being brought in for questioning but they sure didn't tell us where Natalee is.

But this far along most have formed their opinions about what happened and are pretty set in their ways about them.

I do continue to hope deVries will shake something or somebody lose.

.

[dkpen]

I'm going to go look for the post on who it was that supposedly cracked the Shango code. When I find it I will post what little info I go, IF I didn't delete the e-mail.  May take some time.

God bless~

[dkpen]

From:
http://www.bastardly.com/archives/2005/07/23/what-really-happened-to-natalee-holloway/

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 at 11:42 am
ALLYINMIAMI wrote:

Stefani–u get a life this is AllyinMiami…my email was alina626@aol.com …it is me…i have nothing to hide…I still converse with Katcall, CRS, Jake, and everyone else on SM..(but we are no longer there, as u know we were banned)…Therefore, i really do not give a shit if u believe me or not; however, checkme “Rick”…and Simian “Es la unica hija”….email me jalicealina@aol.com ….Whoah….what a surprise, i have ally’s exact last name…check my IP address it is the same one…

Would this be the Ally the prom date or the All the thirty year old??

I think a lot of us have heard and read things and think things but we don't know things for a fact.  Same with the riddlers.  They may have known a few things in the beginning like who was being brought in for questioning but they sure didn't tell us where Natalee is.

But this far along most have formed their opinions about what happened and are pretty set in their ways about them.

I do continue to hope deVries will shake something or somebody lose.

.

Maybe the person Garrison was talking about that came forward was one of those who posted as Shango since he/she appeared to be in the know for quite sometime.

[memphis]

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:49 pm
The phone call to the father was made at 4:00 in the morning. No wonder he was late for school.

AllyinMiami Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:51 pm
Simian, estoy contenta que regresaste

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:51 pm
Remember when they were pumping the pond by the Marriott? That is what they need to do in Montaña Noord.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:55 pm
The confrontation is going down. “You made me lie.” “You conspired against me.” “Coward.”

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:57 pm
The waters are low. The street are full. The night of Saint John. The fires will burn all around on the island. The smoke will clear tomorrow morning.

I’m leaving…

 Could someone please translate the bolded commentby Allyinmiami? TIA

from Babelfish... I am contented that you returned

OK, I'm really gone now. Nite dkpen!  

[msmarple]

Night Klaas, sweet dreams.

Ms Marple...I am trying to find it right now...I always have to hunt for what I want.

Well, I think it's just the two of us and I never finished my letter ...

But I have to tell you that when I looked at those stills - at the meeting -"in plain view" (or sight, not sure which) immediately came to mind, and thus Shango or Simian.

I had never been able to see what other people claimed to see in those videos. It was sort of an "Aha" moment.

[Lala'sMom]

Ms Marple
I think I am going to have to get myself in the bed now.  I will find it for you tomorrow, that is if some other monkey doesn't find it for me.  Hugs to Nemo. Night all.

[msmarple]

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:49 pm
The phone call to the father was made at 4:00 in the morning. No wonder he was late for school.

AllyinMiami Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:51 pm
Simian, estoy contenta que regresaste

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:51 pm
Remember when they were pumping the pond by the Marriott? That is what they need to do in Montaña Noord.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:55 pm
The confrontation is going down. “You made me lie.” “You conspired against me.” “Coward.”

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 5:57 pm
The waters are low. The street are full. The night of Saint John. The fires will burn all around on the island. The smoke will clear tomorrow morning.

I’m leaving…

 Could someone please translate the bolded commentby Allyinmiami? TIA

from Babelfish... I am contented that you returned

OK, I'm really gone now. Nite dkpen!  

memphis - that was nice of you to translate. I meant to try it and forgot.

I have been talking about too many things tonight!

[Anna]

The videos had to have been taken over a period of a few weeks because one has the F16 jets in it and that was a bit later.  So it is not one long movie cut up but taken on different days.

Will see if there is any follow up on the crime Leslie posted today for the M&C and maybe it iwll be in Diario.

Good night, all.  I miss Spooky and CBB coming in the cage late at night.

.

[dkpen]

Night to those heading out.

Think I will follow and say goodnight as well.  I will keep looking through my old emails. If I find the info on the person who supposedly cracked the Shango code I will post it. If I deleted it, well, sorry....

Night and sweet dreams.

God bless~

[sirensong]

Looks like everyone went to bed! I was still looking around for that Peter guy, and found a business that was owned by Rudy Croes and Victor Espinola.  Now am I dreaming, or has this name come up here before. If not, forgive me, I must be losing my mind.  

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=J15777&n2=OFFFWD&n3=0001&n4=P&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=&r5=&r6=&r7=CROESRUDY&r8=

[dkpen]

I haven't found the email on Shango but came across the email on the instructions by Blonde on how to produce the pictures like Blonde did of the bag view....

1. Original Picture...put original pic in photoshop


2. click negative on photo program to see inside the bag


3. turn/rotate around until you see something, reverse the photo-rotate by 270


4. dropped the top area and hit auto correct color- Then hit auto color fix


Blonde thinks Natalee (if this is Natalee) was ducted taped together in a ball, also you can see blue on her face bruising? Blonde also thinks their were rocks or something put in the bay to keep the bag in the water.



You can also do it from in Paint....

1. get original pic of bag or get it from video
2. rotate 270
3. flip horizontal
4. click invert colors
That's it, all done in Paint.


Hope this helps for those who want to attempt to reproduce the same image Blonde did. I did it once. Took me forever to figure it out. I'm not photoshop savey.

God bless~

[blah]

This was posted at BFN....

The National Enquirer

I was told by a representative from the National Enquirer that the issue with the photos should be available on newsstands Thursday, November 16, 2006. This all came about after the photos were shown at the family meeting in October.

After the meeting, Art Wood contacted me and asked me to send the photos to three different email addresses. I did so and was subsequently contacted by David Wright from the National Enquirer. By complying with Art's request, my only goal was to help in the search for Natalee and I did this with Beth and Dave's knowledge and approval. The other email addresses were to forensic labs.

I'm not a scientist and I do not know what if anything these photos may lead to. It's now in the hands of professionals

I have been told I will be receiving a nominal fee from the National Enquirer. I did not do this for personal gain and the money will be donated in Natalee's name.

I will continue to do whatever is within my power to see that Natalee is returned to her family. My thoughts and prayers are with them.

Blonde
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=5455.30

refering to the plastic bag pictures from chicago video

does anyone know specifically which pictures they are referring to in this letter?  Does anyone have a link to these same pictures?

[blah]

Joran: That's your problem. If they find that girl, then they will see that shit.


BOMBSHELL

Robots, I quoted this because it needs to be repeated.  This shows Joran knows that Natalee is dead and that there is some evidence with/on her linking them back to her.


Any half twit police office could have solved this case.

[yapperz1]

Morning Monkeys

found the date of the "Plain View" post by Shango

Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:11 am

All Secrets are hidden in Plain View

[yapperz1]

Seems I remember "AllyinMiami" stating she was an attorney/worked for an attorney. She always spoke to Simian in Spanish.

[Peaches]

MsMarple, I just took a look at the Crimes thread.  This is top-notch work!!  You are to be commended.  Everyone needs to read this thread.  While some threads are pure speculation and wishful guessing, this thread is based on facts and verifiable reports.  I'm very impressed and will make this thread one of my stops each time I login to catch up with the Monkeys.

I agree!  This is an excellent reference and shows a great deal of time and attention.

Good morning.

[robots]

Joran: That's your problem. If they find that girl, then they will see that shit.


BOMBSHELL

Robots, I quoted this because it needs to be repeated.  This shows Joran knows that Natalee is dead and that there is some evidence with/on her linking them back to her.


Any half twit police office could have solved this case.

  yep