Lively Case Discussion #543 11/14 - 11/15/2006

[shadow]

Just thinking out loud. Seeing that San Nicolas is an old fishing port village, could the flying fishbones actually be a reference to a fishing port or an area where the fisherman bring in their catch???

[dkpen]

I didnt even notice any of your typos until you pointed them out!!

   You're too kind blah. <hugs>

[shadow]

(from www.aruba_guide.info)

Though there are three major ports around the island of Aruba, nearly every boat comes in at the Renaissance Marina in Oranjestad, the capital city of Aruba. The Marina is part of the Renaissance Aruba Resort and Casino hotel, though all are welcome to dock there.

The two other Aruban ports are located Barcadera and San Nicolas, or Sint Nicolaas. Both Oranjestad and Barcadera's ports are operated by the Aruba Ports Authority, but the port at San Nicolas is operated by the Coastal Aruba Refining Company and includes oil terminals and reef berths. Barcadera is an industrial port.

[shadow]

(from www.shorediving.com)

Boca Grandi is sparse, out-of-the-way beach area that offers good diving only when the conditions are right. You will rarely see people here; if you are looking for a private beach, this is it!

Directions: Boca Grandi is on the East coast of the Southern tip of the island. Heading East out of San Nicolas, you'll come to a 'T' in the road with an anchor in the center (see the entrance for Bachelor's Beach). Bear left, then turn right in 500m into the parking area for the beach.

[klaasend]

FLYING FISHBONE - SAVANETA - SATELLITE VIEW



FURTHER EAST OF FLYING FISHBONE - SATELLITE VIEW

[dkpen]

Klaas, you got mail!  

[blah]

seems to me that this would not be a good location for a well.  You typically need a well to be so many feet deep for good natural filtration.  This close to the ocean, the water table is likely pretty high and therefore would result in a very shallow well (dig a hole a couple feet deep and hit water)  I dont know, maybe the land rises pretty quick in that area.

[dkpen]

maybe it's an old abandon well they used centuries ago that is blocked off from the public.

[Florida]

dkpen: Hi...Has this ever been proven?

<<Plain View, Florida... I believe a porn video of Natalee was sent there. Maybe Paulus went there to either get it disposed or speak to the ""head honcho" about it when he abruptly flew to Florida while Joran was detained in jail. >>

I agree with your post....Looks to me that the 3 porn sites Joran was checking out ...just may be owned by Mr. Pink, Inc. / Brough.

[LilPuma]

[Who is the Head of the Beast that is in plain view (while the flanks are protected)?  If the Sloots are protected.........hmmmmm

LilPuma, so far we have unearthed dozens if not hundreds of Aruban connections to Plainview, Florida.  Grande alone has that many.  

And since so many involved in this are alleged or wannabee DJ's, there is also the record Hidden in Plain View as well.

So I guess we can take our pick from among them all?  Dunno.

But what are you trying to do to that fish below?  



Just kidding!      

I just wanted to pet the little fishy.  Honest!    

Thanks for the Plainview info.  I guess I don't understand the connection between all these business people and Natalee's disappearance.  We know there are shady goings on down there, things that may even be legal in Aruba or under Dutch law, but not here.  We know there are drug and Mob connections as well as porn.   Other than authorities being dirty - payoffs to look the other way if not direct involvement - I don't see what all these other people have to do with anything.  If there is a belief that Natalee was a victim of human trafficking, then it makes sense.  But the consensus seems to be that she is deceased, so I have trouble following all the Miami-Aruba connections as well as keeping the names straight.  If a video of Natalee was put on the Internet, there's no way of knowing if it's gone.  Even if it was deleted by whoever posted it, there's no way to tell if anyone copied or downloaded it.  But that still doesn't explain all the names and faces of seemingly unrelated people to me.  Oh well.

[MsVada]

lil puma,  your avatar is so adorable!

[dkpen]

hey Vada  <hugs>

[dkpen]

[Who is the Head of the Beast that is in plain view (while the flanks are protected)?  If the Sloots are protected.........hmmmmm

LilPuma, so far we have unearthed dozens if not hundreds of Aruban connections to Plainview, Florida.  Grande alone has that many.  

And since so many involved in this are alleged or wannabee DJ's, there is also the record Hidden in Plain View as well.

So I guess we can take our pick from among them all?  Dunno.

But what are you trying to do to that fish below?  



Just kidding!      

I just wanted to pet the little fishy.  Honest!    

Thanks for the Plainview info.  I guess I don't understand the connection between all these business people and Natalee's disappearance.  We know there are shady goings on down there, things that may even be legal in Aruba or under Dutch law, but not here.  We know there are drug and Mob connections as well as porn.   Other than authorities being dirty - payoffs to look the other way if not direct involvement - I don't see what all these other people have to do with anything.  If there is a belief that Natalee was a victim of human trafficking, then it makes sense.  But the consensus seems to be that she is deceased, so I have trouble following all the Miami-Aruba connections as well as keeping the names straight.  If a video of Natalee was put on the Internet, there's no way of knowing if it's gone.  Even if it was deleted by whoever posted it, there's no way to tell if anyone copied or downloaded it.  But that still doesn't explain all the names and faces of seemingly unrelated people to me.  Oh well.

Lilpuma, I truly believe that Natalee's rape was filmed and put on the net. Or it was sent to Plain View with underground snuff porn and sold to an underground crowd. This I completely believe. And being Plain View is in Florida, that is the connection.

[sharon]

FLYING FISHBONE - SAVANETA - SATELLITE VIEW


FURTHER EAST OF FLYING FISHBONE - SATELLITE VIEW

klaas -- do you knw what that structure is?? (just to the left of your arrow head)

[dkpen]

Front page still down. Poo!

[MsVada]

lil puma,  your avatar is so adorable!

[Tylergal]

Just posted on the FP by a poster with the name Espionage:

East of where fishbones fly the pathway is blocked with links of chain. The wellspring’s bore is hidden from public view. Is this where someone should be “digging” for truth?

oh great, a new shango

(shhh, don't tell Lala's.)    

[MsVada]

Not sure why it posted that twice,  so sorry......

Hey Dk.  

I agree with you in regards to Plain View.  At one time,  We thought those coded messages meant the PV  was for Paul Vandersloot.....but I too see the connection between Plain View Florida and this case.....

[Anna]

One-On-One with Natalee Holloway's Mother
Seth Seymour
November 14,2006  
Natalee Holloway is a face and name you know too well.

Beth Holloway Twitty is the mother mourning that teenager, now for nearly 19 agnonizing months.

"They have to find Natalee. They have to find our daughter," Twitty pleaded only days after Natalee disappeared on a school trip in Aruba.

That was then.

"And I have just as much hope today as I did in the beginning."

This is Twitty now.

"For Natalee, we know it's too late. We also know it's too late for us," she says.

Natalee has never been found. But it's not too late, she says, for others who travel unaware of what can happen.

That was her message to 400 people in Cleveland Tuesday night at a $75-per-plate fund-raiser for the Tennessee Christian Academy.

"When you have a missing person or a crime committed in a foreign country, you're very restricted with the information you get from officials," Twitty says.

And this mother is still suffering from that same problem.

"As far as Natalee's investigation goes, we really don't know where it stands."

But Twitty charges ahead, trying to find answers, trying to help others through her organization International Safe Travels Foundation.

It's all because of the daughter she might never see again.

"She loved her friends, she loved life. She was dedicated and committed, and she wanted to make a difference. So now we're trying."


 http://tinyurl.com/tjurv


And please note the fund raiser was not for Beth or Natalee but the Academy.

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[Tylergal]

[Who is the Head of the Beast that is in plain view (while the flanks are protected)?  If the Sloots are protected.........hmmmmm

LilPuma, so far we have unearthed dozens if not hundreds of Aruban connections to Plainview, Florida.  Grande alone has that many.  

And since so many involved in this are alleged or wannabee DJ's, there is also the record Hidden in Plain View as well.

So I guess we can take our pick from among them all?  Dunno.

But what are you trying to do to that fish below?  



Just kidding!      

I just wanted to pet the little fishy.  Honest!    

Thanks for the Plainview info.  I guess I don't understand the connection between all these business people and Natalee's disappearance.  We know there are shady goings on down there, things that may even be legal in Aruba or under Dutch law, but not here.  We know there are drug and Mob connections as well as porn.   Other than authorities being dirty - payoffs to look the other way if not direct involvement - I don't see what all these other people have to do with anything.  If there is a belief that Natalee was a victim of human trafficking, then it makes sense.  But the consensus seems to be that she is deceased, so I have trouble following all the Miami-Aruba connections as well as keeping the names straight.  If a video of Natalee was put on the Internet, there's no way of knowing if it's gone.  Even if it was deleted by whoever posted it, there's no way to tell if anyone copied or downloaded it.  But that still doesn't explain all the names and faces of seemingly unrelated people to me.  Oh well.

Lilpuma, I truly believe that Natalee's rape was filmed and put on the net. Or it was sent to Plain View with underground snuff porn and sold to an underground crowd. This I completely believe. And being Plain View is in Florida, that is the connection.

That has always been my DH's theory, that it was an underground snuff porn and they were paid good money for it and those paying the money are paying for this to be kept under raps.