Lively Case Discussion #543 11/14 - 11/15/2006

[robots]

well IF DOCTOR EVIL'S son was not in school that day

then where are the FREAKING CELL PHONE records for DEEPAK, SATISH,
and JORAN that DAY ???????????????????????????????????????????


       

this is important

cause i bet they told police they were sleeping

and yet the cell phones tell another story  

[AZLady]

Maybe this is Charles Croes' role in the game.  Master of the cell phone logs.

[igsigs]

then where are the FREAKING CELL PHONE records for DEEPAK, SATISH,
and JORAN that DAY ??????????????????????????????????????????

In the bone drawer at Noord Station...with all the other evidence.

Where's HAT?

[robots]

Maybe this is Charles Croes' role in the game.  Master of the cell phone logs.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Lala'sMom]

Lorenzo?  The 5th suspect?  Oops!  Sorry I just could not resist.  I will behave now.  

Lala's, when this comes down, I think more than just three young men are going to answer for it.  Didn't Beth say at one time that she felt 10 or 12 were involved (can't remember the exact number)?

Let's think about it...Joran and Kalpoes commit the crime.  Paulus covers it up. Somebody helps bury the body. Maybe there is someone with a boat that helps remove it from the island. Somebody else loses all the evidence. Someone hides the truth about the confession. Someone manipulates the media enough to confuse everyone. Freddy needs to tell the truth.  Yep. I would think that 3 guys with only one car could not disappear a young girl's body and have no trace of it any where and no evidence that implicates them without several people helping them.  As I count it, that is more than 3.

[Lala'sMom]

Lorenzo?  The 5th suspect?  Oops!  Sorry I just could not resist.  I will behave now.  

Yes, Guido 'Lorenzo' Wever.

Surely you do not believe what Tito says?  He didn't know what network he was speaking to most times, much less the names of people he was talking about.  Besides, he may have been given the wrong name on purpose.

[klaasend]

Lorenzo?  The 5th suspect?  Oops!  Sorry I just could not resist.  I will behave now.  

Lala's, when this comes down, I think more than just three young men are going to answer for it.  Didn't Beth say at one time that she felt 10 or 12 were involved (can't remember the exact number)?

Let's think about it...Joran and Kalpoes commit the crime.  Paulus covers it up. Somebody helps bury the body. Maybe there is someone with a boat that helps remove it from the island. Somebody else loses all the evidence. Someone hides the truth about the confession. Someone manipulates the media enough to confuse everyone. Freddy needs to tell the truth.  Yep. I would think that 3 guys with only one car could not disappear a young girl's body and have no trace of it any where and no evidence that implicates them without several people helping them.  As I count it, that is more than 3.

I agree!  The people that harmed Natalee are the original 3.  Many aided in the coverup.

[Lala'sMom]

well IF DOCTOR EVIL'S son was not in school that day

then where are the FREAKING CELL PHONE records for DEEPAK, SATISH,
and JORAN that DAY ???????????????????????????????????????????


       

ALE was supposed to get the cell phone records?  I bet they just forgot in all the excitement.

[robots]

well IF DOCTOR EVIL'S son was not in school that day

then where are the FREAKING CELL PHONE records for DEEPAK, SATISH,
and JORAN that DAY ???????????????????????????????????????????


       

ALE was supposed to get the cell phone records?  I bet they just forgot in all the excitement.

yea.....frosted flakes first        

[AZLady]

Lorenzo?  The 5th suspect?  Oops!  Sorry I just could not resist.  I will behave now.  

Lala's, when this comes down, I think more than just three young men are going to answer for it.  Didn't Beth say at one time that she felt 10 or 12 were involved (can't remember the exact number)?

Let's think about it...Joran and Kalpoes commit the crime.  Paulus covers it up. Somebody helps bury the body. Maybe there is someone with a boat that helps remove it from the island. Somebody else loses all the evidence. Someone hides the truth about the confession. Someone manipulates the media enough to confuse everyone. Freddy needs to tell the truth.  Yep. I would think that 3 guys with only one car could not disappear a young girl's body and have no trace of it any where and no evidence that implicates them without several people helping them.  As I count it, that is more than 3.

Yup.  Let's see, there is:

Joran
Paulus
Deepak
Satish
Freddy
Geoffrey
Guido
Koen

This is the minimum.  We might also include Steve Croes, Michael Dompig, Daddy Dompig, Karen Janssen, Van der Straatten, Dennis Jacobs.  They are at least accomplices in the coverup, if not more.  
Yup, that's a lot more than three.

[robots]

i really want to see cell phone records from K2 and Joran the missing day of school

[Florida]

The "Surveillance Photo" of Lorenzo was taken in June 2005 by Art Woods.

He gave it to me to compare with who I saw in Savaneta as Lorenzo in Aug.2005.

I didn't think they matched.

I did not want the pic posted as it belonged to Art Wood.

[klaasend]

i really want to see cell phone records from K2 and Joran the missing day of school

You and me both Robots.  I have a feeling those are either destroyed or we'll never see them.

[Lala'sMom]

i really want to see cell phone records from K2 and Joran the missing day of school

Me too.  Betcha they don't exist.

[AZLady]

i really want to see cell phone records from K2 and Joran the missing day of school

Me too.  Betcha they don't exist.

Nope, they went into the circular file.

[Lala'sMom]

The "Surveillance Photo" of Lorenzo was taken in June 2005 by Art Woods.

He gave it to me to compare with who I saw in Savaneta as Lorenzo in Aug.2005.

I didn't think they matched.

I did not want the pic posted as it belonged to Art Wood.

Did the Lorenzo you saw have long or short hair?

[robots]

i really want to see cell phone records from K2 and Joran the missing day of school

You and me both Robots.  I have a feeling those are either destroyed or we'll never see them.

hmmmm

i think youre right

but if we could just see them......maybe there is ONE good person working in the police force that maybe had photo   copied something

[robots]

thats the best we can hope for

someone made copies of something that was never meant to be copied  

[crazymom]

Hi Monkeys.  Lurking about this evening.  Do I need to go back and read the previous thread or can someone give me a general idea?

Klaasend, thanks for posting the pictures of Jaycee in the Crimes against Children thread.  I will try and post links to other news articles.

[Carnut]

Lorenzo?  The 5th suspect?  Oops!  Sorry I just could not resist.  I will behave now.  

Yes, Guido 'Lorenzo' Wever.

Surely you do not believe what Tito says?  He didn't know what network he was speaking to most times, much less the names of people he was talking about.  Besides, he may have been given the wrong name on purpose.

Even thru his mumbles I think there was a thread of truth as to what he was saying.

Sure he could have been given the 'wrong' name, but then we are back to not really knowing of 'any' name at that point.