Lively Case Discussion #543 11/14 - 11/15/2006

[igsigs]

I wanna see Van der Straten's phone records.

Rudy Croes says he looked at em...

[robots]

Hi Monkeys.  Lurking about this evening.  Do I need to go back and read the previous thread or can someone give me a general idea?

Klaasend, thanks for posting the pictures of Jaycee in the Crimes against Children thread.  I will try and post links to other news articles.

hi crazy
         


just teasing ya


im just typing away, not really reading,,, i cant help you much  

[Carnut]

thats the best we can hope for

someone made copies of something that was never meant to be copied  

Kinda wonder if that's how some of the statements got out.

Even then I wonder if the publicized statements were not just rough drafts thrown in the trash and retrieved.

[AZLady]

I wanna see Van der Straten's phone records.

Rudy Croes says he looked at em...

Igsigs, when did you hear this?  Croes said he looked at Van der Straten's phone records?  Why would he do this?  And what do you think it means?

[klaasend]

The "Surveillance Photo" of Lorenzo was taken in June 2005 by Art Woods.

He gave it to me to compare with who I saw in Savaneta as Lorenzo in Aug.2005.

I didn't think they matched.

I did not want the pic posted as it belonged to Art Wood.

You must have posted it somewhere for it to be floating around for over 12 months.  

[AZLady]

thats the best we can hope for

someone made copies of something that was never meant to be copied  

Kinda wonder if that's how some of the statements got out.

Even then I wonder if the publicized statements were not just rough drafts thrown in the trash and retrieved.

Beth said that when she and Dave met with Janssen, they were given copies of statements made by the three suspects.  Not all of the statements, but some of them.  I think these are the statements we are reading.  Maybe some that Jossy obtained, too.

[memphis]

Lorenzo?  The 5th suspect?  Oops!  Sorry I just could not resist.  I will behave now.  

Yes, Guido 'Lorenzo' Wever.

Surely you do not believe what Tito says?  He didn't know what network he was speaking to most times, much less the names of people he was talking about.  Besides, he may have been given the wrong name on purpose.

Even thru his mumbles I think there was a thread of truth as to what he was saying.

Sure he could have been given the 'wrong' name, but then we are back to not really knowing of 'any' name at that point.

I'm thinking that was when Tito was here at SM. People were shooting questions at him and he was trying to keep up and answer. He was asked about Lorenzo and Tito said something like, "You mean the Wever kid? He worked at the casino and left for Holland." That is not word for word, but I honestly got the feeling that Tito was just confused.

[robots]

my guess is someone has some REALLY GOOD EVIDENCE

why it hasnt come out yet

i dont know

but im a supersticious person when it comes to this

i dont believe in Karma

but i do believe in WHAT GOES AROUND can come back and BITE you in the _ _ _
 

[AZLady]

The "Surveillance Photo" of Lorenzo was taken in June 2005 by Art Woods.

He gave it to me to compare with who I saw in Savaneta as Lorenzo in Aug.2005.

I didn't think they matched.

I did not want the pic posted as it belonged to Art Wood.

You must have posted it somewhere for it to be floating around for over 12 months.  

That pic is on more harddrives than most cookie trackers!!

[Lala'sMom]

thats the best we can hope for

someone made copies of something that was never meant to be copied  

It's hard to make copies of things when Jacobs is sitting on them while eating his corn flakes.

[klaasend]

Memphis - I agree with you on the Tito/Lorenzo Wever thing

[robots]

my guess is someone has some REALLY GOOD EVIDENCE

why it hasnt come out yet

i dont know

but im a supersticious person when it comes to this

i dont believe in Karma

but i do believe in WHAT GOES AROUND can come back and BITE you in the _ _ _
 

DOCTOR EVIL will be BITTEN

and i cant wait

[robots]

thats the best we can hope for

someone made copies of something that was never meant to be copied  

It's hard to make copies of things when Jacobs is sitting on them while eating his corn flakes.

           

[crazymom]

Hi Monkeys.  Lurking about this evening.  Do I need to go back and read the previous thread or can someone give me a general idea?

Klaasend, thanks for posting the pictures of Jaycee in the Crimes against Children thread.  I will try and post links to other news articles.

hi crazy
         


just teasing ya


im just typing away, not really reading,,, i cant help you much  

You make me laugh.  Maybe we should call you Crazybot!!!  

[Carnut]

I'm thinking that was when Tito was here at SM. People were shooting questions at him and he was trying to keep up and answer. He was asked about Lorenzo and Tito said something like, "You mean the Wever kid? He worked at the casino and left for Holland." That is not word for word, but I honestly got the feeling that Tito was just confused.

Well, dosen't that sequence mean the 'guy who worked at the casino and left town' was the 'Wever kid' and in his mind was 'Lorenzo'?

[Lala'sMom]

Florida
That photo was seen by me at another pro Natalee site in August or September of last year.  It has been around for a while.  I bet that it was posted by some of Art Wood's own people.

[igsigs]

I wanna see Van der Straten's phone records.

Rudy Croes says he looked at em...

Igsigs, when did you hear this?  Croes said he looked at Van der Straten's phone records?  Why would he do this?  And what do you think it means?

Rudy said van der Straten made "inappropriate" phone calls during the first few weeks of the case. MF did a translation on FOB. It's still there, i happened upon it today.

[robots]

the odds that k2 and joran were able to get rid of Natalee THAT NIGHT
and not have anyone able to find her....

SLIM



the odds that K2 and Joran killed her and hid her body temporarily that night and missed school the next day and had help with the complete plan the next day


HUGE

[Tylergal]

Lorenzo?  The 5th suspect?  Oops!  Sorry I just could not resist.  I will behave now.  

Yes, Guido 'Lorenzo' Wever.

[memphis]

Memphis - I agree with you on the Tito/Lorenzo Wever thing

Ahh...well thanks Klaas.