Caylee Marie Anthony #139 6/21/09 - 6/24/09

[mamacrazy30]

I do not think Caylee was ever physically abused. Never have.

then casey has some major rage issues to go from not a spanker to killing her kid, duct taping her, and hiding the body...i wanna' know if anybody had scene her pissed off before and how she handled it...yeah, that one time on the tapes it show her getting angry (kind of)  with g&c but its not like she punched the screen or anything.  i show more emotion to other drivers getting to work than her 'outburst'

[joesamas mama]

I do not think Caylee was ever physically abused. Never have. I do believe that if Casey was my daughter, SHE would have been physically abused BY ME long before she was arrested 

  Not me, I would have had the baseball bat and hammer out when I walked up to Tony L's door and didn't find Caylee.

[Cappuccino]

On the last thread, someone mentioned Jose Baez having possession of the diary dated 2003.

I believe it is Brad Conway who has possession of the diary.  IIRC, I heard him say that on the May 13 LKL program.  I believe he said the police photographed it, and that the A's gave it to him for safekeeping.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The thing that still sticks out to me is that there were 12 pages ripped out, I guess by the tears at the binding they could ascertain how many pages it was.  Id be curious if they could do an impression testing on the two pages before and after the last entry to see if it could be determined what was written. 

[Desdemona]

Okay.  Again.  I apologize for making this request, b/c I don't normally do this...  But I am also foggy on the paper towel evidence we keep referring to.

Cannabis and THC residue and what?  Decomp fluid?  Adipocere specifically? And where did we get this info, I am so sorry but I can't recall what report mentions the evidence on the paper towel from Tony's trash bag that was in Casey's trunk. Can someone please help me here, by telling me where this was reported and what exactly was on the paper towel?  TIA and my apologizies for asking.

P.S.  JSM, is it true?  You have your own blog right here at SM?  I will look for it; maybe you could post a link to it, in your signature line?  Congrats!

[joesamas mama]

Okay JSM, we'll all be waiting after you ask at work tomorrow.  All of us, including the and 47 Guests

Will do Muffy. It makes me SO mad that the X-rays and pictures weren't allowed to be seen.

[Fanny Mae]

Hi Monkeys! 

  I am way behind the curve on this synostosis thing.  I told you yesterday I was confused about it... that situation has not improved.

Will some kind Monkey please tell me exactly what the report says?  Does it say "cranial"?  Synostosis can occur in various joints of the body, and I could have sworn I read something about the radial-ulnar something or other.  No?  Did one of the reports say that it was Caylee's skull that showed signs of synostosis?  Why I can't find this reference, I don't know.  Under a lot of stress at the moment d/t real life stuff and lack of sleep, so maybe that can be my excuse.  So will someone please point this confused Monkey to the right place?

P.S.  I feel upset when Monkeys are snarly with each other....   

Blink, if you already have the autopsy report it is on the Osteological Report from Central Florida University on page 8.

[mamacrazy30]

On the last thread, someone mentioned Jose Baez having possession of the diary dated 2003.

I believe it is Brad Conway who has possession of the diary.  IIRC, I heard him say that on the May 13 LKL program.  I believe he said the police photographed it, and that the A's gave it to him for safekeeping.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The thing that still sticks out to me is that there were 12 pages ripped out, I guess by the tears at the binding they could ascertain how many pages it was.  Id be curious if they could do an impression testing on the two pages before and after the last entry to see if it could be determined what was written. 

why give a diary with (with the meat ripped out) what for all we know has only one written page to an lawyer for 'safe-keeping'?

[Blink34]

Without extensive researching, what I have read, this causes pressure on the brain. Would that not at least cause constant headaches and therefor wouldn't a Dr. have been consulted about that?  Just asking.

IDK Tupelo, I have a malformation that I never knew about until I had a CT of the head, but it has never made me kill. JMDO JSM

Ya know what else is interesting in discussing this topic.   Caylee at 2 3/4 years did not appear to be suffering an usual temper or learning disability.  We've seen the videos, she talked, sang complete songs, interacted with people, told her own version of a book she loved to read/have read to her, count seemingly wiser than her very tender young age.   We saw her dance & get around, physically or medically she exhibited no signs of challenges due to a medical condition.

Good Point, and let's not forget counting to 32 in Spanish.

[trimmonthelake]

I wanna go too.  Pleeease?  I'll bring my Steve Martin dvd to play on the way.  "King Tut (King Tut)
Now when he was a young man,
He never thought he’d see
People stand in line to see the boy king.

(King Tut) How’d you get so funky?
(funky Tut) Did you do the monkey?
Born in Arizona,
Moved to Babylonia (king Tut).
<snip>

   Road Trip.We'll take our undercover car. 

[Fanny Mae]

Hi Monkeys! 

  I am way behind the curve on this synostosis thing.  I told you yesterday I was confused about it... that situation has not improved.

Will some kind Monkey please tell me exactly what the report says?  Does it say "cranial"?  Synostosis can occur in various joints of the body, and I could have sworn I read something about the radial-ulnar something or other.  No?  Did one of the reports say that it was Caylee's skull that showed signs of synostosis?  Why I can't find this reference, I don't know.  Under a lot of stress at the moment d/t real life stuff and lack of sleep, so maybe that can be my excuse.  So will someone please point this confused Monkey to the right place?

P.S.  I feel upset when Monkeys are snarly with each other....   

Blink, if you already have the autopsy report it is on the Osteological Report from Central Florida University on page 8.

Sorry! I meant Desi. And it was me that said that Baez had the journal. I could have been wrong, but I thought that was what I heard. But why would Conman have it anyway? I would have thought it was Police Evidence.

[Desdemona]

Hi Monkeys! 

  I am way behind the curve on this synostosis thing.  I told you yesterday I was confused about it... that situation has not improved.

Will some kind Monkey please tell me exactly what the report says?  Does it say "cranial"?  Synostosis can occur in various joints of the body, and I could have sworn I read something about the radial-ulnar something or other.  No?  Did one of the reports say that it was Caylee's skull that showed signs of synostosis?  Why I can't find this reference, I don't know.  Under a lot of stress at the moment d/t real life stuff and lack of sleep, so maybe that can be my excuse.  So will someone please point this confused Monkey to the right place?

P.S.  I feel upset when Monkeys are snarly with each other....   

Desi, it says sagittal suture appears to be in the beginning of stages of premature synostosis. If I knew how to post a link I would. I am looking at it right now.

 I hope you are feeling better. JSM

  Thank you, JSM!  "sagittal suture" would be the cranium all right.  (I take your word for it!)  Appreciate it.

[no rose colored glasses]

Just got caught up, and what was that all about? I'm sure the defense if they thought for a minute that Casey had some skull problem or any problem that could get her off they have researched, x-rayed, and whatever else they could possibly do to save her from going down.    Andrea will be all over any problem that might have caused Casey to murder, imo. That's what she does.

[MuffyBee]

Okay.  Again.  I apologize for making this request, b/c I don't normally do this...  But I am also foggy on the paper towel evidence we keep referring to.

Cannabis and THC residue and what?  Decomp fluid?  Adipocere specifically? And where did we get this info, I am so sorry but I can't recall what report mentions the evidence on the paper towel from Tony's trash bag that was in Casey's trunk. Can someone please help me here, by telling me where this was reported and what exactly was on the paper towel?  TIA and my apologizies for asking.

P.S.  JSM, is it true?  You have your own blog right here at SM?  I will look for it; maybe you could post a link to it, in your signature line?  Congrats!

OT JSM's Begging for Ban Thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5458.0  I just added my two cents there.

[mamacrazy30]

Okay.  Again.  I apologize for making this request, b/c I don't normally do this...  But I am also foggy on the paper towel evidence we keep referring to.

Cannabis and THC residue and what?  Decomp fluid?  Adipocere specifically? And where did we get this info, I am so sorry but I can't recall what report mentions the evidence on the paper towel from Tony's trash bag that was in Casey's trunk. Can someone please help me here, by telling me where this was reported and what exactly was on the paper towel?  TIA and my apologizies for asking.

P.S.  JSM, is it true?  You have your own blog right here at SM?  I will look for it; maybe you could post a link to it, in your signature line?  Congrats!

i feel your pain.  decomp fluid would make since considering both the trash and Caylee were in the trunk.  if its adipocere then that would put things in a different ball park.

[FLGrammy]

Muffy Bee, thanks for linking the Steve Martin video!   

I needed that.

Thank you FLGrammy.  I was hoping it would take some of the tension off.  It's been difficult recently with the autopsy release, but I think many are bothered like I am that there is more information we aren't privy to about Caylee and the time up to her death to the way she was treated after her demise.  I think there is a lot of sadness and anger. 

Yes, and we shouldn't take out that frustration, sadness and anger on each other.  I personally have not been able to get through reading all of the recent reports.  It makes me sick to my stomach.  I am hoping the jurors in this case have the same response.

[mamacrazy30]

Without extensive researching, what I have read, this causes pressure on the brain. Would that not at least cause constant headaches and therefor wouldn't a Dr. have been consulted about that?  Just asking.

IDK Tupelo, I have a malformation that I never knew about until I had a CT of the head, but it has never made me kill. JMDO JSM

Ya know what else is interesting in discussing this topic.   Caylee at 2 3/4 years did not appear to be suffering an usual temper or learning disability.  We've seen the videos, she talked, sang complete songs, interacted with people, told her own version of a book she loved to read/have read to her, count seemingly wiser than her very tender young age.   We saw her dance & get around, physically or medically she exhibited no signs of challenges due to a medical condition.

Good Point, and let's not forget counting to 32 in Spanish.

i think that was a lie...Caylee was a bright and beautiful girl, but listening to her on videos would lead me to think.. maybe..if someone was counting with her, it could happen.

[A_News_Junkie_Monkey]

No drama queen here. I am just giving my opinion for what it is worth. 

Fanny I thought it was clear in my post, I was in no way referring to you. Actually I was defending an intelligent discussion of the topic, which is appropriate. Someone saying they have to run to detectives and potentially tesify, and not the first time, is not, imo. If you thought otherwise, please accept my apology, your a poster I deeply respect the contribution of.
B

Blink - not sure if you saw, so I will respond one last time.  I am resigning from this board.  However, I never said I needed to run off and tell detectives ( I was encouraged to and felt that for the value of making sure SA was ready for that defense maybe I should, after further research. )  I never said I would need to testify - I said it is not something that I have expertise on and to the contrary would not a potential witness.  And I actually have never had words with you that I recall.  I do feel attacked by you and you came in saying that you wanted an explaination what this was all about - why not read back and see that my intent was never to BAIT anyone. 
I feel misunderstood here, so I won't be back - so have at it - slam me, use me to release aggression or just move on.
Best to you all.

[SunnyinTX]

I don't care if she has the face of a horses ass...she killed her kid, she deserves to die ASAP

I am in complete agreement Nut!!

[Northern Rose]

What I was referring to was the findings about the skull on Caylee and the premature closing of the cranium bones, and the fact that it was hereditary. No big discrepancy, just some facts to look into. There were some posts earlier today about the abnormality that are easily looked up on the previous thread.

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dhhzksxr_1gd6hrfcc

http://img.medscape.com/fullsize/migrated/405/637/nf0903.03.fig3.jpg

but it were to the point of being a concern, wouldn't it have been recognized after Caylee's birth and while still in the hospital?  even if not, i'm just gonna jump in and say if thats what caused her death, well, whats up with the duct-tape and body dumping?

I highly doubt that the premature fusing has anything whatsoever to do with COD.  There are more than one area in the skull that are left open at birth and fuse as children grow.  Caylee was three.  If her case was severe enough to have caused issues her head would have been mishappen - think shape of a light bulb with the possibility of protruding forehead.  If her case were sever you would have easily seen it in pictures. The way I read it was there were signs of this not that the skull had actually closed yet.  This to me read as if the gap was smaller than it should have been. JMO

[Cappuccino]

On the last thread, someone mentioned Jose Baez having possession of the diary dated 2003.

I believe it is Brad Conway who has possession of the diary.  IIRC, I heard him say that on the May 13 LKL program.  I believe he said the police photographed it, and that the A's gave it to him for safekeeping.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The thing that still sticks out to me is that there were 12 pages ripped out, I guess by the tears at the binding they could ascertain how many pages it was.  Id be curious if they could do an impression testing on the two pages before and after the last entry to see if it could be determined what was written. 

why give a diary with (with the meat ripped out) what for all we know has only one written page to an lawyer for 'safe-keeping'?

Who knows why Cindy thinks she can out smart or outplay anyone...nothing she says or does points to anything but her covering for Casey.   The pants, the hairbrush, the diary, refusal to give her JC Penney statements to detectives...on and on it goes.