Caylee Marie Anthony #139 6/21/09 - 6/24/09

[Fanny Mae]

JSM, I used your JSM Banning thread today to let off some steam. I hope you don't mind. I swept up after myself when I left. 

I am really concerned about Northern Rose tonight. They are still having tremors in her area and she has not been back on. I hope it is just she has lost power or her internet.
 

[Miki Monkey]

Thanks Miki, I was just speculating on what day Caylee was at the club. I didn't know it was on the 13th. My bad.  TIA JSM

Aw...JSM wasn't saying nothing, I had just read about it a bit earlier...I'm always getting it wrong so I am right there with you doing my best to make sense of it all 

[joesamas mama]

JSM, I used your JSM Banning thread today to let off some steam. I hope you don't mind. I swept up after myself when I left. 

I am really concerned about Northern Rose tonight. They are still having tremors in her area and she has not been back on. I hope it is just she has lost power or her internet.
 

I replied to you Fanny on my banning post. I hope Northern Rose is okay too. You are welcome anytime in my banning post. Just follow the rules.  Luv you JSM

[leslee]

Good Morning Monkeys 
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That what I thought, but I found this also: June 9 Casey and Caylee spent their last night at Ricardo’s. Tony Lazzaro states that Casey lived with him June 9 through July 16, the day she was arrested. Caylee was not there with them, Casey repeated saying she was with the nanny or grandparents.

June 9 - June 15 Casey was holed up at Tony Lazzaro’s apartment. Casey gave Cindy a whole story about going to Tampa and Zani and Raquel being injured in a wreck just ahead of her a Juliet. Totally false story. I'm not clear on where Caylee was at this time, the 9th thru the 13th, when Caylee was with Cindy that weekend.


http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2008/10/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-oct-2.html

Please excuse large stack I don't know how to select a single quote yet 

I'm missing something here... do you have link to where he says that?

Snipped for space (hope I did this right)

Just thinking out loud.

Comments:

Casey gave June 9th as the last day she saw Caylee (left her with the babysitter)

Casey spent the night with Caylee at Ricardo's on the 9th
Tony L. says kc was with him from June 9th to July 16th (note the overlapping 9th) without Caylee

Did Ricardo lie about both kc and Caylee staying with him the 9th?  Did he say they did (or just kc's word for it?)

Random thoughts:

Does kc give the 9th as the last date she saw Caylee because something DID happen (just not death) starting with the 9th?
Did kc leave Caylee somewhere, while staying with Tony, until she took Caylee to sindy for the Father's Day visit?
Could kc have left Caylee at an empty apartment at Sawgrass during this time in question?  If so, did Caylee say something, during the visit with sindy that would have given sindy pause?  Is this what caused the fight between kc and sindy?

Perhaps an empty apartment was where Caylee was being left, maybe the duct tape wasn't a first time for her.  Maybe kc used the duct tape when she left Caylee in the apartment alone overnight so if she woke up, she wouldn't be heard screaming or crying?  Maybe she used more tape the last time, too much?  Could Caylee have made herself sick crying and choked on her own vomit?  (sorry, no disrespect intended to the baby).

I found the quoted from this site: http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2008/10/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-oct-2.html


I was trying to check it out but couldn't find out where she was from the 10th..so I am looking for an accurate time line, there is so much information out there it's difficult to get the facts.
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Pookey Bear wrote it and here is Yuris Calendar:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5045482/04-Casey-Anthony-Timeline-Calendar

[mamacrazy30]

Mamacrazy, I wasn't ignoring your post. We were having an emergency computer situation here. 

 Everyone of us has a story. I think our life experiences is one of the thing that bring us all here. It fuel our desire for things to be better for others, even those we don't know.   

One thing about it though, my monkey friend. You certainly have kept your sense of humor. 
 

well, thank you miss Mae.  that was sweet!  to be honest i didn't really post to get a rise or conversation.  i had never heard of a thing in my life and when i read the post i was like holy smokin' a cigg!  thats me and my mom!  those were our issues, those were my feelings, and well  that was me and my mom....(hey dr. whoever...have you been spying on me?).  it just gave me a massive amount of insight and a ohhh, i get it moment.
you are a sweety..(when you're not beating people with sticks.. )
 

[Fanny Mae]

Mamacrazy, I wasn't ignoring your post. We were having an emergency computer situation here. 

 Everyone of us has a story. I think our life experiences is one of the thing that bring us all here. It fuel our desire for things to be better for others, even those we don't know.   

One thing about it though, my monkey friend. You certainly have kept your sense of humor. 
 

well, thank you miss Mae.  that was sweet!  to be honest i didn't really post to get a rise or conversation.  i had never heard of a thing in my life and when i read the post i was like holy smokin' a cigg!  thats me and my mom!  those were our issues, those were my feelings, and well  that was me and my mom....(hey dr. whoever...have you been spying on me?).  it just gave me a massive amount of insight and a ohhh, i get it moment.
you are a sweety..(when you're not beating people with sticks.. )
 

So far JSM is the only monkey I have used a stick on. We usually take turns. But now that she has her own thread, I don't think we will have to use the stick on her anymore. 

[joesamas mama]

Thanks Miki, I was just speculating on what day Caylee was at the club. I didn't know it was on the 13th. My bad.  TIA JSM

Aw...JSM wasn't saying nothing, I had just read about it a bit earlier...I'm always getting it wrong so I am right there with you doing my best to make sense of it all 

Thanks Miki, I was just thinking she may have thrown the baby in the trunk instead of taking her home straight away on the 14th. My mind was trying to think like Crazy. I'm not sure the distance from Fusion to the Ants, so what I was thinking she didn't want to drive all the way home, give a story as to why she can't keep Caylee, get in a fight with Cindy and then go back to the club.

But I guess when a 20 something wants to party and has raging hormones, they will drive any distance and make up any lie to get back to the party.  Being the old person that I am, I drive in a circle and if it is out of my circle during the week, I wait until the weekend. Hope it makes sense, I am very tired tonight. JSM

[mamacrazy30]

Dr Warner Spitz (defense expert) is another paid for hire jerk - "nothing that says its murder"   HELLOO several layers of duct tape - that is rage & very possible suffocation.

He is implying that the ductape was put there by the state.

really...i mean Really?  oh yes, the state of Florida has nothing better to do with its time then to set-up casey anthony..she has pissed off florida!  Florida is out to get her.
geesh.

Yeah, putting duct tape around a skull that has been in a swamp for almost 6 months is what LE and the ME has on their mind.  What I stupid idiot. LE/ME were out there in the pouring rain IIRC sifting through bones of this poor child and the first thing that pops into their mind is to find the same duct tape on George's gas can, wrap up the skull to prove KC did it? Makes no sense. The man that said that is an idiot. JMO JSM

if i were on a jury and an 'expert' stated something like that to me, well, whoever he is there to defend are goin' down..per me!
nothin' like tellin' people they're stupid to make them see things your way

[joesamas mama]

Mamacrazy, I wasn't ignoring your post. We were having an emergency computer situation here. 

 Everyone of us has a story. I think our life experiences is one of the thing that bring us all here. It fuel our desire for things to be better for others, even those we don't know.   

One thing about it though, my monkey friend. You certainly have kept your sense of humor. 
 

well, thank you miss Mae.  that was sweet!  to be honest i didn't really post to get a rise or conversation.  i had never heard of a thing in my life and when i read the post i was like holy smokin' a cigg!  thats me and my mom!  those were our issues, those were my feelings, and well  that was me and my mom....(hey dr. whoever...have you been spying on me?).  it just gave me a massive amount of insight and a ohhh, i get it moment.
you are a sweety..(when you're not beating people with sticks.. )
 

Mamamonkey, I read your post and know of a person that has that same problem. Not going to any detail, but it isn't in my immediate family. I didn't want to comment because I have guests that lurk a lot and they might think I am talking about them, but definately I am not. Hugs JSM  . PS Fanny doesn't hit hard unless you use the D or S word. 

[Fanny Mae]

I am going to the bunkey early tonight. Early morning tomorrow, and I have to say I hate early mornings. 

Good night, ya'll. And God Bless.   

[joesamas mama]

Mamacrazy, I wasn't ignoring your post. We were having an emergency computer situation here. 

 Everyone of us has a story. I think our life experiences is one of the thing that bring us all here. It fuel our desire for things to be better for others, even those we don't know.   

One thing about it though, my monkey friend. You certainly have kept your sense of humor. 
 

well, thank you miss Mae.  that was sweet!  to be honest i didn't really post to get a rise or conversation.  i had never heard of a thing in my life and when i read the post i was like holy smokin' a cigg!  thats me and my mom!  those were our issues, those were my feelings, and well  that was me and my mom....(hey dr. whoever...have you been spying on me?).  it just gave me a massive amount of insight and a ohhh, i get it moment.
you are a sweety..(when you're not beating people with sticks.. )
 

So far JSM is the only monkey I have used a stick on. We usually take turns. But now that she has her own thread, I don't think we will have to use the stick on her anymore. 

Tell it straight up Fanny, its a hammer not a stick. 

[joesamas mama]

I am going to the bunkey early tonight. Early morning tomorrow, and I have to say I hate early mornings. 

Good night, ya'll. And God Bless.   

Night Fanny. 

[leslee]

I am going to the bunkey early tonight. Early morning tomorrow, and I have to say I hate early mornings. 

Good night, ya'll. And God Bless.   

Night Fanny. 

Nite Fanny. JSM you are funny. IMO I think every family has dysfunction but as adults we can rise above.

[AnnetteInMn]

Since we talked about Amy's checks it just doesn't make sense to me that she'd sign her own name and write one to herself.  How on earth did she figure she was going to explain this away AND maintain friendship with the very people she partied with????  Of course that may have been her way out of the whole "mom's giving me the house and we'll live there" fairy tale that she had Amy believing.  It seems pretty clear to me that consequences of one's actions are not on the top of Casey's list of concerns.

[joesamas mama]

I am going to the bunkey early tonight. Early morning tomorrow, and I have to say I hate early mornings. 

Good night, ya'll. And God Bless.   

Night Fanny. 

Nite Fanny. JSM you are funny. IMO I think every family has dysfunction but as adults we can rise above.

Thanks Leslee, we all have dysfunction. Even the Beaver Cleaver family had it.

No family is "normal". The way I look at it, you use it as a tool and pray that it is a learning tool, not a disability. In the case of KC, she used the dysfunction as a tool to play one Ant against the other. KC against Cindy with Caylee as the tool or prize. But on the 15th or 16th of June, KC took the prize away from Cindy.  JMO JSM

[Miki Monkey]

Since we talked about Amy's checks it just doesn't make sense to me that she'd sign her own name and write one to herself.  How on earth did she figure she was going to explain this away AND maintain friendship with the very people she partied with????  Of course that may have been her way out of the whole "mom's giving me the house and we'll live there" fairy tale that she had Amy believing.  It seems pretty clear to me that consequences of one's actions are not on the top of Casey's list of concerns.

It seemed to me as if she wanted to get the most out of her life before they found out she was a child killer and they locked her away for ever. Burned all her bridges in that one month, now she has free room and board for life and no worries.

[joesamas mama]

Since we talked about Amy's checks it just doesn't make sense to me that she'd sign her own name and write one to herself.  How on earth did she figure she was going to explain this away AND maintain friendship with the very people she partied with????  Of course that may have been her way out of the whole "mom's giving me the house and we'll live there" fairy tale that she had Amy believing.  It seems pretty clear to me that consequences of one's actions are not on the top of Casey's list of concerns.

KC lives for the moment, she was probably thinking she would be in California by the time Amy figured out who stole her checks. Cindy is the one that told Amy KC is a thief and a liar IIRC. So Amy went and checked her account and it was overdrawn. I am probably wrong about why Amy checked her bank balance, but I think it was at Cindy's suggestion on the drive to Tony's from the mall. I'm probably wrong, usually am. JMO JSM

[joesamas mama]

Nite Monkeys. I have a horrible week this week. I will try and lurk at work and come back in the evenings. Sleep well. JSM

[mamacrazy30]

Hello Monkeys, i finally made it! ::cartwheel::after catching up from last night i have many questions and a few comments...
comments first
Ya' don't take your baby to the bar...sometimes we post about how casey is crazy like a fox and is not stupid etc. etc.  She took her toddler to a dance club?  who does that?  i can't believe they let her do it !  maybe everybody she knows is only stupid when it comes to how to act right? 
if the defense didn't see any duct tape on the skull by the time they got it, it was already removcome on, talk to me like i'm stupid defense...keep it up..i like it!  (sorry, i guess i'm not completely over the fun of this yet)ed at the first autopsy![/b]poop fire and save matches...
questions..
what happened to the office zfg?  did they find who took her puter?
what was that card that le pulled out of caseys wallet?  i don't expect ya'll too know but i'm nosey.
now i need a lawyer monkey
at what point does bank fraud turn into id theft?  i may be wrong, and please let me know if i am, that since the patriot act, id theft can be considered a federal crime.  can Casey get a fed case...if it came to light that she really did open credit cards in cindys name and charged them to heck..is that id theft?

if some chick (say a young mother) hooks up with some guy, and say, has him watch the kid for a few hours.  she comes back, baby is gone...it was only baby and dude, dud says he was on the pot and after he wiped, he realized the baby was MISSING, he was gonna' tell mom, but he has seen movies about that kind of thing...months later baby body is found dude is arrested, and says i didn't do it, while i was makin' poo someone came in and took the baby...story doesn't make since, evidence points to dude, etc.  and he still just say's it wasn't me.  everybody knows he's full of it and they're gonna nail him to the wall...hurtin' a baby and liein' about it....would nancy grace feel compelled to say that there must be a motive in order to have a defense? 
how about it was zanny the invisible nanny.  works for me as much as i didn't do it.  and if someone else did it, that means i didn't, and so no need for motive.  how about this for motive??
Casey got pissed about ??? and took it out and her small child, thus killing her..motive, she was pissed, reason? i don't know and even if i did the outcome of this would be the same.  Caylee is dead and casey killed her.
(man, now my fingers are cramping up)

[mamacrazy30]

miss Mae..sorry i missed you..get some rest lady, you've been stayin' up late with me the past few nights, get 'cha some shut eye!
sweet dreams of shiney hineys.. sweet dreams of shiney hineys