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Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony #139 6/21/09 - 6/24/09 (Read 316276 times)
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #139
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Quote from: Blink34 on June 23, 2009, 02:34:13 PM
Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on June 23, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
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IMO George knew when he went to her trunk on June 24th.How else can the smell in the trunk be explained?Does decomp smell get worse as time goes by?Is it possible for 2.6 days of decomp(going with Caylee dying late night 6/15)not to smell as strong 6-7 days(6/24) in a trunk as it would a whole month later?
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I can assure you that the smell only gets worse as time goes by. I would be willing to bet that the smell is just as bad or worse right now in that car. I hope that the jury will be able to go to the car and get a big sniffer full. It will not go away, even next summer.
So do you think the smell could have been a little strong on 6/24 after decomp sitting in the closed trunk in the hot Florida sun for 6-7 days?
FWIW, I dont believe George ever saw her on the 24th. I think he made it up because they figured out she dumped Caylee the 23rd or 24th and so he wanted to show that he saw her, there was no Casey in the yard, house, no decomp smell that day. He was there with her at her visit. How the flaznock does he show up at the towyard on 7/15 saying his daughter has been missing for a month or 6 weeks or whatever, when he saw her on the 24th?? He doesn't. He did not see them on 6/16 or 6/24.
Ahhhh....I truly never thought of George
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seeing casey on the 24th.
Now I got some more rethinking to do,thanks Blink....your posts always make me think a little bit more,a little bit harder.
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Quote from: KarmaRoundUp on June 23, 2009, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: N2WISHN on June 23, 2009, 02:30:47 PM
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IMO George knew when he went to her trunk on June 24th.How else can the smell in the trunk be explained?Does decomp smell get worse as time goes by?Is it possible for 2.6 days of decomp(going with Caylee dying late night 6/15)not to smell as strong 6-7 days(6/24) in a trunk as it would a whole month later?
Reposting this cause the way the quote stack came out bugs me lol....and hopefully someone will respond.
My guess is a big yes and I'll tell you why. Now I'm not comparing decomp to milk because its my belief decomp is many times worse than spoiled milk. But anyway, here's the true story. I noticed when I would enter my young son's room there was a faint odor of something very foul smelling. I looked around pretty well for anything that could be the source going so far as to get down on my hands and knees and smell the rug in case he had tracked something in. Nothing. As the days passed, the smell increased and when I would walk by the open door I would get a huge whif. I look again, still couldn't find it. Finallly shut the door and the smell started coming out of the room even with the door shut. Well, I got my oldest son to help me completely search the room and low and behold, in the closet behind the closed doors and up on the shelf was a plastic tupperware glass with about 2" of milk in it. I put the glass in a plastic bag and carried it outside to the trash. I never would have believed milk could put out such a disgusting odor. I'm betting decomp would be much stronger and smell many times worse.
Thanks for the reply N2Wishn
If Caylee died the 15th-16th of June do you(or anyone here)think the decomp smell in the car would have been pretty strong by June 24th?
I think the decomp smell would have been very strong by then..but I do not believe for one minute George's story of her being at the house that day.....they started covering up very early for her with LE..and I do not think she would have come back to the house while anyone was there..there was enough time during the late afternoon that GA was at work and CA too..so no need to come while they were there.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #139
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Hey, monkeys...What's the buzz, tell me what's happenin? I've been in and out, (family drama, ailing mom, home repair hell,) so haven't been in tune with the cosmos lately. i promise I will go back and read, scout's honor, but is there any late breaking bombshells I need to know about?
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Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 23, 2009, 07:16:14 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: Cappuccino on June 23, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on June 23, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
I bet all these clothes no longer fit!
Now that is funny, what on earth is that silver lame thing...yikes! Ho Ho Ho
Lee's Princess Leia's outfit?
LMAO..and speaking of LEE..I think once he got wind of what Casey had told a few friends about his advances toward her..which I think are just Casey trying for attention..and making sure her friends don't hook up with Lee...remember Lee's words to TonE..he hoped his lying, stealing sister didn't rob them blind..or something of that nature. I think at that point Lee was done. I think he knew Csey was one sick girl, I don't think he tried anything with her, I think he loved his parents and Caylee..and wished to heck she would just get out of all their lives..things would be simplier.
I also think Cindy and George felt the same way about Casey..just get the heck out of our lives..you have made life unbearable and we are stuck with yur problems..as usual. Which is motive enough to kill Caylee..Skanky Pants didn't want her unless she was worth a free ride..and I think the free ride was coming to an end.
I truly believe Lee didn't make a pass towards her. I also think you could be right about the free ride is over and that is what caused Caylee's demise. JMO JSM
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #139
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I bet all these clothes no longer fit!
Now that is funny, what on earth is that silver lame thing...yikes! Ho Ho Ho
Lee's Princess Leia's outfit?
LMAO..and speaking of LEE..I think once he got wind of what Casey had told a few friends about his advances toward her..which I think are just Casey trying for attention..and making sure her friends don't hook up with Lee...remember Lee's words to TonE..he hoped his lying, stealing sister didn't rob them blind..or something of that nature. I think at that point Lee was done. I think he knew Csey was one sick girl, I don't think he tried anything with her, I think he loved his parents and Caylee..and wished to heck she would just get out of all their lives..things would be simplier.
I also think Cindy and George felt the same way about Casey..just get the heck out of our lives..you have made life unbearable and we are stuck with yur problems..as usual. Which is motive enough to kill Caylee..Skanky Pants didn't want her unless she was worth a free ride..and I think the free ride was coming to an end.
And maybe we could reinterpret his creepy CMA speech at the memorial. Maybe the promise he made was to Casey was that if he knew she had done something to Caylee, he'd make her pay. We certainly haven't seen him around lately, have we?
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Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
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Quote from: monkalicious on June 23, 2009, 07:22:58 PM
Hey, monkeys...What's the buzz, tell me what's happenin? I've been in and out, (family drama, ailing mom, home repair hell,) so haven't been in tune with the cosmos lately. i promise I will go back and read, scout's honor, but is there any late breaking bombshells I need to know about?
Hey Monk. Nothing really new. Been rehashing the old news. Blink has a really good new blog about the Autopsy.
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Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Go to your blog and I will put the directions up there.
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Wow, you monkeys have been busy today. I just got caught up.
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Did you read the post of what one of my doctors at work said about the sagittal sutures and premature synostosis, if so any input.
TIA JSM
Yes, I did. You may have seen that I had a post the other day that my son had a small opening which was found when he suffered a concussion at 4 playing one of his favorite characters from Ghostbusters. I chuckle now but he put a blanket over his head and rammed right into the porch door head first in what can only be described as a very excited moment, it was scary at the time because it was within an instant and I was right there. The doctors at the time said basically that it should close & not to be concerned about it - I didnt know what it was called then, l since then became familiar with the term. Later on in HS he was playing varsity football & he suffered a rather significant concussion from a "spearing" a head on collison with another player helmet-to-helmet. He had x-rays, MRI's, neurological and neuropsychological testing & the once small gap was not detected (he was 17 at the time), by the grace of God he healed from his injury rather well with no residual long-term side effects. I asked the forensic psychiatrist I worked for as an assistant about synostosis (he specialized in brain trauma & PTSD in addition to a host of other credits to his 28 page curriculum vitae including that he was also an attorney, passed the bar again in an additional state while I worked for him, studying for it in a week I kid you not!) & he said that in a majority of cases it does not result in serious health issues, maybe a slight learning disability, headaches but it is very rare serious medical issues result from it, the gap usually closes by early adulthood.
Personally, I hold little to no significance to this medical condition to what Casey did, nor do I with most explanations for her evil due to her never having been diagnosed in life & the fact that she has since incarceration been examined with a battery of tests - she isnt in a psy ward nor were any concerns raised by her defense regarding health issues when first arrested. To me that ship sailed a long long time ago...if these issues are raised now it would be laughable but the defense may try regardless. I fully expect issues of this nature may arise during the penalty phase of her conviction (notice my confidence in stating that).
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 23, 2009, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: monkalicious on June 23, 2009, 07:22:58 PM
Hey, monkeys...What's the buzz, tell me what's happenin? I've been in and out, (family drama, ailing mom, home repair hell,) so haven't been in tune with the cosmos lately. i promise I will go back and read, scout's honor, but is there any late breaking bombshells I need to know about?
Hey Monk. Nothing really new. Been rehashing the old news. Blink has a really good new blog about the Autopsy.
Thanks, Fanny. I love it when monkeys rehash, my brain is like a sieve lately, and it really helps remind me of what's going on.
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Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Hi JSM. Here are the instructions I have:
1. In Youtube click on the EMBEDED link and copy it
2. Paste that link in your message
3. PREVIEW your message and notice the hyperlink that is showing (usuallly ends in a -1)
4. Copy that hyperlink because that is the one you are really going to use
5. Go back and FIX your post by deleting the EMBEDED links and pasting the Hyperlink you copied
6. Highlight the hyperlink
7. Click on the FLASH icon
8. Change the size from 200,200 to 600,485
9. Preview (just to be certain) and post
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Oh, and Fanny, hope the hub is doing well. Mine had flu all last week and no one in the history of illness, (according to him,) has been so sick. Thank God he doesn't get ill often!
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Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
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JVM is on & defense attny says the check fraud case should not go forward. The other atty saying it should.
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Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Go to your blog and I will put the directions up there.
Thank you Miss Fanny could you post how to do photobucket pictures for me too? TIA JSM
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Quote from: cece on June 23, 2009, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Hi JSM. Here are the instructions I have:
1. In Youtube click on the EMBEDED link and copy it
2. Paste that link in your message
3. PREVIEW your message and notice the hyperlink that is showing (usuallly ends in a -1)
4. Copy that hyperlink because that is the one you are really going to use
5. Go back and FIX your post by deleting the EMBEDED links and pasting the Hyperlink you copied
6. Highlight the hyperlink
7. Click on the FLASH icon
8. Change the size from 200,200 to 600,485
9. Preview (just to be certain) and post
Hey, Cece, thank you from me as well. I never know how to do this, your explanation was stellar!
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Quote from: cece on June 23, 2009, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Hi JSM. Here are the instructions I have:
1. In Youtube click on the EMBEDED link and copy it
2. Paste that link in your message
3. PREVIEW your message and notice the hyperlink that is showing (usuallly ends in a -1)
4. Copy that hyperlink because that is the one you are really going to use
5. Go back and FIX your post by deleting the EMBEDED links and pasting the Hyperlink you copied
6. Highlight the hyperlink
7. Click on the FLASH icon
8. Change the size from 200,200 to 600,485
9. Preview (just to be certain) and post
Cece, was it you that posted the direction before? I couldn't remember if it was you or Tevye. I would like to give whoever credit.
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Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Go to your blog and I will put the directions up there.
Thank you Miss Fanny could you post how to do photobucket pictures for me too? TIA JSM
Do you have a Photobucket?
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Quote from: monkalicious on June 23, 2009, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: cece on June 23, 2009, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Hi JSM. Here are the instructions I have:
1. In Youtube click on the EMBEDED link and copy it
2. Paste that link in your message
3. PREVIEW your message and notice the hyperlink that is showing (usuallly ends in a -1)
4. Copy that hyperlink because that is the one you are really going to use
5. Go back and FIX your post by deleting the EMBEDED links and pasting the Hyperlink you copied
6. Highlight the hyperlink
7. Click on the FLASH icon
8. Change the size from 200,200 to 600,485
9. Preview (just to be certain) and post
Hey, Cece, thank you from me as well. I never know how to do this, your explanation was stellar!
Hi Monk & you are very welcome. I copied the directions into a word document so I could remember how to do it. I got them from somewhere here. So thank you to those that have posted this before.
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Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 23, 2009, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on June 23, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Sorry for the off topic, can someone help me where to find how to put a youtube video up. I cant seem to remember how to do it. TIA JSM
Go to your blog and I will put the directions up there.
Thank you Miss Fanny could you post how to do photobucket pictures for me too? TIA JSM
Do you have a Photobucket?
If you already have a Photobucket account, go to the pic you want, rt click and copy the IMG code on the pic and select all. Rt click again on IMG code and copy. Go to the reply post you want to put it on and rt click to paste. That's it!
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=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
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===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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