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« Reply #1800 on: July 01, 2009, 07:36:39 PM »

Oh my Lawd!! There is a Patty from New Jersey on the phone on HLN complaining about the character assasination of MJ. 

I think MJ, the talented dancer, singer, etc persona, needs to be separated from MJ the person.

I think his gifts should be celebrated because he developed what God gave him.

I think MJ, the person, was someone we will never understand.  I think the truth is somewhere out there, but I don't know what it is.  What he did was inappropriate (I mean letting kids sleep in his bed).  I am not sure what happened, as I was not there.  I am going to leave that judgment up to God and let it go. 

I will continue to fight for justice for our abused and missing children.  I would like for us to be able to learn from past crimes to be able to prevent abuse from happening in the first place.  I would like to see justice for all those who were abused already.  We are far, far too lenient on the perps.  Since you can't fix them, lock them away forever, for their own good and the good of all. 

I know there are some RSOs who are unjustly accused.  It has been used as a weapon also.  I have a friend who is a teacher and the parents of one of her kids spends the day in the bar.  Since she is a woman and the child a boy, the parents have threatened if she does not back off, they will say she was inappropriate with her son (she was not, she is married with 2 children of her own).  I also know a Dad who was put in prison and now a RSO and his daughter, who is now an adult, says her Mom told her to say those things and they were never true, he never touched her. 

How do we tell?  Sometimes we can't.


You are totally right Bearly. I shouldn't be the judge of MJ because he was found innocent of the charges. For that I am wrong and apologize.

I just have always found it strange that he would let kids sleep in his bed. Kids that weren't his. But that is me being judgemental. I see the negative in these types of cases and I should look at both sides of the story.

I also know what you are saying about being accused of a sexual assault and it not being true. It happened to a friend's son, he was 17 the girl was 16, she said he tried to rape her. She was of the KC Anthony slore type and was mad because he was breaking up with her.

Thank God it never went to trial, but he would have been a RSO for life. So I see both sides of the story. It just about broke this kid's family because of the legal fees.

I just have always thought if you are a high profile person like MJ, don't put yourself in the position to be accused. JMO and hope it makes sense. JSM

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« Reply #1801 on: July 01, 2009, 07:41:08 PM »

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« Reply #1802 on: July 01, 2009, 07:42:05 PM »

Oh my Lawd!! There is a Patty from New Jersey on the phone on HLN complaining about the character assasination of MJ. 

I think MJ, the talented dancer, singer, etc persona, needs to be separated from MJ the person.

I think his gifts should be celebrated because he developed what God gave him.

I think MJ, the person, was someone we will never understand.  I think the truth is somewhere out there, but I don't know what it is.  What he did was inappropriate (I mean letting kids sleep in his bed).  I am not sure what happened, as I was not there.  I am going to leave that judgment up to God and let it go. 

I will continue to fight for justice for our abused and missing children.  I would like for us to be able to learn from past crimes to be able to prevent abuse from happening in the first place.  I would like to see justice for all those who were abused already.  We are far, far too lenient on the perps.  Since you can't fix them, lock them away forever, for their own good and the good of all. 

I know there are some RSOs who are unjustly accused.  It has been used as a weapon also.  I have a friend who is a teacher and the parents of one of her kids spends the day in the bar.  Since she is a woman and the child a boy, the parents have threatened if she does not back off, they will say she was inappropriate with her son (she was not, she is married with 2 children of her own).  I also know a Dad who was put in prison and now a RSO and his daughter, who is now an adult, says her Mom told her to say those things and they were never true, he never touched her. 

How do we tell?  Sometimes we can't.



I totally agree with you about MJ the person, and MJ the personna. There is no way that he was not a tortured soul. I really felt his family has let him down over the years, and have taken advantage of him.

I also agree with you that we don't know what happened, and that there are people, especially during divorces that are unfaily accused of things they didn't do.

I just have a hard time balancing the feelings of protecting children from predators and letting MJ get a pass because he had money and talent and had a bad childhood. We see it everyday with all these cases. He was evidently a drug addict to boot. We would not give most other accused people the benefit of the doubt. We would mostly take the kids side of it every time. It is a fine line we are walking.....So mostly I just joke about the charade going on out in LA and feel really sorry for how sad his life really was.  JMO
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« Reply #1803 on: July 01, 2009, 07:43:21 PM »

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« Reply #1804 on: July 01, 2009, 07:47:47 PM »

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« Reply #1805 on: July 01, 2009, 07:54:20 PM »

I had company again. 
Now Bearly is gone again.
I agree with you guys.I feel like MJ did have some iappropriate behavior.
Then there are the family issues.
Then there's the drugs.What a mess.
The thoughts of an abused child bothers me the most.I just have a hard time getting past that.   
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« Reply #1806 on: July 01, 2009, 07:56:15 PM »


Sounds good to me.Grandson is coming tomorrow to stay for a few days.Pizza,hot pocket and hot dogs.How can i stay on a diet?
Maybe I could get some lean cuisines.   
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« Reply #1807 on: July 01, 2009, 07:56:19 PM »

I had company again. 
Now Bearly is gone again.
I agree with you guys.I feel like MJ did have some iappropriate behavior.
Then there are the family issues.
Then there's the drugs.What a mess.
The thoughts of an abused child bothers me the most.I just have a hard time getting past that.   

Me too, and also all the weirdness around his three kids, and the masks he made them wear.
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« Reply #1808 on: July 01, 2009, 07:57:22 PM »


Sounds good to me.Grandson is coming tomorrow to stay for a few days.Pizza,hot pocket and hot dogs.How can i stay on a diet?
Maybe I could get some lean cuisines.   
Some of those lean cuisines are okay, but I'll take a hot pocket any day over those.
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« Reply #1809 on: July 01, 2009, 07:57:43 PM »

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I just have a hard time balancing the feelings of protecting children from predators and letting MJ get a pass because he had money and talent and had a bad childhood. We see it everyday with all these cases. He was evidently a drug addict to boot. We would not give most other accused people the benefit of the doubt. We would mostly take the kids side of it every time. It is a fine line we are walking.....So mostly I just joke about the charade going on out in LA and feel really sorry for how sad his life really was.  JMO
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« Reply #1810 on: July 01, 2009, 07:59:40 PM »

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« Reply #1811 on: July 01, 2009, 07:59:42 PM »


Sounds good to me.Grandson is coming tomorrow to stay for a few days.Pizza,hot pocket and hot dogs.How can i stay on a diet?
Maybe I could get some lean cuisines.   
Some of those lean cuisines are okay, but I'll take a hot pocket any day over those.

I like the pizza hot pockets.
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« Reply #1812 on: July 01, 2009, 08:01:13 PM »


Sounds good to me.Grandson is coming tomorrow to stay for a few days.Pizza,hot pocket and hot dogs.How can i stay on a diet?
Maybe I could get some lean cuisines.   
Lean Pockets, they taste like cardboard, but are good in a pinch. 
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« Reply #1813 on: July 01, 2009, 08:05:19 PM »

I had company again. 
Now Bearly is gone again.
I agree with you guys.I feel like MJ did have some iappropriate behavior.
Then there are the family issues.
Then there's the drugs.What a mess.
The thoughts of an abused child bothers me the most.I just have a hard time getting past that.   

Me too, and also all the weirdness around his three kids, and the masks he made them wear.
That always bothered me too. But I read somewhere today I think it was the Daily Mail, that he was freaked out by the world. That he wanted LMP to go out a back door of some hotel when they were married and she high tailed it to the elevator. He thought she was gonna be kidnapped or something. His body guards found her in a bar sipping a martini. He was pararnoid beyond belief and I am sure his lovely family upbringing didn't help. The man was a freak, he needed help. He didn't get it. Whether he was a pedophile or not, I can't make that call. JMO JSM
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« Reply #1814 on: July 01, 2009, 08:06:27 PM »


Sounds good to me.Grandson is coming tomorrow to stay for a few days.Pizza,hot pocket and hot dogs.How can i stay on a diet?
Maybe I could get some lean cuisines.   
Some of those lean cuisines are okay, but I'll take a hot pocket any day over those.
Lean cuisines are okay, but you gotta eat three to get full.  Monkey Devil! Give me a good old fashion Hungry Man Dinner any day! 
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« Reply #1815 on: July 01, 2009, 08:06:49 PM »

You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.
I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late.
So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife. 
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« Reply #1816 on: July 01, 2009, 08:08:58 PM »


Sounds good to me.Grandson is coming tomorrow to stay for a few days.Pizza,hot pocket and hot dogs.How can i stay on a diet?
Maybe I could get some lean cuisines.   
Lean Pockets, they taste like cardboard, but are good in a pinch. 

I am way past eating anything that tastes like cardboard. I no longer stick my feet in any shoes that are uncomfortable, and I have cut up all my pantyhose to tie my tomatoes up. If I can't wear something comfortable, I don't go. I have decided at my age to make myself as comfortable and happy as I can. I try to do the same for my family, but if that means occassionally eating sloppy joes for dinner, so be it. My family and my cats mostly love me....the rest of the time they just put up with me and roll their eyes or sometime hide. 
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« Reply #1817 on: July 01, 2009, 08:09:04 PM »

Maybe Bearly will take us out to eat.  If Muffy goes too,surely we won't get into trouble. Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #1818 on: July 01, 2009, 08:11:50 PM »

Fanny.     I tie stuff with panty hose too.
I'm not a 48 fixing to be 49 year old trying to look 20.I just want to get into my smaller jeans with out losing consciousness.  Monkey Devil!   
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« Reply #1819 on: July 01, 2009, 08:12:39 PM »

You guys,my friend next door just told me that a guy she dated years ago has cancer in his kidneys.I felt so bad for her.She had been crying.
I then told her the first guy I ever dated in high school passed away in a VA hospital last weekend.I just found out 2 days ago.I always wanted to talk to him after we broke up and I never did.All these years gone and never got to clear the air between us.I was crazy for him at the time.Now it's too late.
So to make this all go together,I told her if she had things to say to him,she should find a way before it's too late.I hope it doesn't get the mess beat out of her by his wife. 


I hope she doesn't beat her up either!!

Have you ever listened to the words, UNANSWERED PRAYER, by my heart throb Garth Brooks???   an angelic monkey
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