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« Reply #1680 on: July 01, 2009, 03:23:22 PM »

119,000,000 will be forced out of their private insurance if this new health plan goes through. 
REVOLTING, I'm mad as h*ll and not gonna take it anymore!!!! I'll be d*mned if they are going to take over my healthcare!!!!

I'm going to jump into the health care debate for a minute and will probably get creamed but here goes! We have national health care in Canada.  We each pay approx $50 a month single, there is another amount for families.  With that you can get any kind of health service you require, including any kind of specialist, operation, etc., with any specialist you want. For example, my friends husband has leukemia. He is taking a medication for it that costs $9000 a month, but the healthcare pays for it. If you cannot afford to pay for your healthcare, it is provided free.  If you are in a low-income tax bracket, you will pay a reduced rate. This includes X-rays, diagnostic tests such as Cat scans and MRI's, hip replacements, knee replacements, open heart surgery, etc. And yes, there are waiting lists for non-emergency surgeries.  Oh yes, I forgot transplants are also on the included list, maternity deliveries and any kind of baby care - and on and on.  So we feel very fortunate - at least I do.

We are already practically standing in lines for our health care anyway. Try to make an appointment with a specialist, and you are really lucky to get in to see one in a month!!! When you get there, you are herded arround like a bunch of cattle. Have to get there 45 mins before your appointment only to sit in the office for another hour after your appointment time. Then when you are called in and think you are going in to see the doctor, they put you in another waiting room!!!  Sorry, JSM! I know you work in a doctor's office, but that is why I have to be almost dying before I will go to the doctor. I do, however, love our family physician. 

While I am still on a rant, I think Governor Sanford is proud of himself and is a exhibitionist. He drones on and on and on about his love life and misdeeds. I think he is getting off on his own self!!! 
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« Reply #1681 on: July 01, 2009, 03:24:03 PM »

119,000,000 will be forced out of their private insurance if this new health plan goes through. 
REVOLTING, I'm mad as h*ll and not gonna take it anymore!!!! I'll be d*mned if they are going to take over my healthcare!!!!

I'm going to jump into the health care debate for a minute and will probably get creamed but here goes! We have national health care in Canada.  We each pay approx $50 a month single, there is another amount for families.  With that you can get any kind of health service you require, including any kind of specialist, operation, etc., with any specialist you want. For example, my friends husband has leukemia. He is taking a medication for it that costs $9000 a month, but the healthcare pays for it. If you cannot afford to pay for your healthcare, it is provided free.  If you are in a low-income tax bracket, you will pay a reduced rate. This includes X-rays, diagnostic tests such as Cat scans and MRI's, hip replacements, knee replacements, open heart surgery, etc. And yes, there are waiting lists for non-emergency surgeries.  Oh yes, I forgot transplants are also on the included list, maternity deliveries and any kind of baby care - and on and on.  So we feel very fortunate - at least I do.
Not throwing nanners Grumbles, thanks for your input.  an angelic monkey

I understand all that, but how much do you pay in taxes? Do you have to wait three years to get a CT scan of the tumour growing in your belly like my Aunt did in England?

What about the little premature baby that was born and they had to send him to Buffalo because there wasn't a neonatal bed anywhere in Ontario? The parents can't even come to see the kid cause they don't have passports.

We have free healthcare too, its called the County Hospital. Parkland is one of the best hospitals in the country and you don't get turned away because you can't pay or have no insurance. This is just another move towards closer to Socialism by Obama and the Democrats.

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« Reply #1682 on: July 01, 2009, 03:25:53 PM »

Thanks for your insight Grumbles (Happy Canada Day, btw). 

My problem with the Health Care Bill that Obama is talking about is the fact that the American people will not be able to read the Bill.  With that being said, our country is broke or going broke, and I'm sure the Dems are trying to squeeze anything they possibly can in with that bill, Just like the "Cap and Trade" bill.  Hell, I spend $175/month on insurance for myself that doesn't cover a damn thing.  The problem becomes when it is almost a disencentive to go to work because you actually get more if you have a bunch of kids and stay home.  And no, I'm not going to go to the political forum...I'm done talking now. JMO, Lovinlife
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« Reply #1683 on: July 01, 2009, 03:28:04 PM »

119,000,000 will be forced out of their private insurance if this new health plan goes through. 
REVOLTING, I'm mad as h*ll and not gonna take it anymore!!!! I'll be d*mned if they are going to take over my healthcare!!!!

I'm going to jump into the health care debate for a minute and will probably get creamed but here goes! We have national health care in Canada.  We each pay approx $50 a month single, there is another amount for families.  With that you can get any kind of health service you require, including any kind of specialist, operation, etc., with any specialist you want. For example, my friends husband has leukemia. He is taking a medication for it that costs $9000 a month, but the healthcare pays for it. If you cannot afford to pay for your healthcare, it is provided free.  If you are in a low-income tax bracket, you will pay a reduced rate. This includes X-rays, diagnostic tests such as Cat scans and MRI's, hip replacements, knee replacements, open heart surgery, etc. And yes, there are waiting lists for non-emergency surgeries.  Oh yes, I forgot transplants are also on the included list, maternity deliveries and any kind of baby care - and on and on.  So we feel very fortunate - at least I do.

We are already practically standing in lines for our health care anyway. Try to make an appointment with a specialist, and you are really lucky to get in to see one in a month!!! When you get there, you are herded arround like a bunch of cattle. Have to get there 45 mins before your appointment only to sit in the office for another hour after your appointment time. Then when you are called in and think you are going in to see the doctor, they put you in another waiting room!!!  Sorry, JSM! I know you work in a doctor's office, but that is why I have to be almost dying before I will go to the doctor. I do, however, love our family physician. 

While I am still on a rant, I think Governor Sanford is proud of himself and is a exhibitionist. He drones on and on and on about his love life and misdeeds. I think he is getting off on his own self!!! 
Don't be sorry, say what you feel. Gov Sanford needs to shut his yap and move to Argentina.
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« Reply #1684 on: July 01, 2009, 03:28:31 PM »

119,000,000 will be forced out of their private insurance if this new health plan goes through. 
REVOLTING, I'm mad as h*ll and not gonna take it anymore!!!! I'll be d*mned if they are going to take over my healthcare!!!!

I'm going to jump into the health care debate for a minute and will probably get creamed but here goes! We have national health care in Canada.  We each pay approx $50 a month single, there is another amount for families.  With that you can get any kind of health service you require, including any kind of specialist, operation, etc., with any specialist you want. For example, my friends husband has leukemia. He is taking a medication for it that costs $9000 a month, but the healthcare pays for it. If you cannot afford to pay for your healthcare, it is provided free.  If you are in a low-income tax bracket, you will pay a reduced rate. This includes X-rays, diagnostic tests such as Cat scans and MRI's, hip replacements, knee replacements, open heart surgery, etc. And yes, there are waiting lists for non-emergency surgeries.  Oh yes, I forgot transplants are also on the included list, maternity deliveries and any kind of baby care - and on and on.  So we feel very fortunate - at least I do.
I have talked to others that were satisfied as well, socialized medicine. For me, because I have a HMO, Healthnet, I already feel that I have somekind of socialized medicine. It isn't the best, but we have always gotten the care we needed. And our prescriptions are five dollars for generic, and fifteen dollars for nongeneric.
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« Reply #1685 on: July 01, 2009, 03:29:40 PM »


  Why would you have to go to the political forum Lovin? TIA JSM
Because I get on a tirade and can't shut my mouth, but I can't go there because it is scary and I'd be scared!!!!  I just meant, please don't make me go "over there"!
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« Reply #1686 on: July 01, 2009, 03:31:27 PM »

People here do still have an extended health program that comes with most employment, which they pay for. It covers things such as massages, chiropractor visits, glasses and frames, counselling services for those going off the deep end (Hello? Spindy? I bet you had this benefit and didn't use it!) life insurance, prescription services, etc. etc., and most employers also completely pay the healthcare for their employees as a company benefit. The young man who lives below me was traveling and in a car accident in Manitoba, which is three  provinces (states) away from where I live.  He was badly injured, brain, and pelvis. He's a teacher but has been unable to work while he is in rehab. Even though he has returned home, Manitoba health continues, almost one year later, to pay him 90% of his salary he was making before the accident because he was injured in their province.
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« Reply #1687 on: July 01, 2009, 03:32:56 PM »


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« Reply #1688 on: July 01, 2009, 03:34:23 PM »

Thanks for your insight Grumbles (Happy Canada Day, btw). 

My problem with the Health Care Bill that Obama is talking about is the fact that the American people will not be able to read the Bill.  With that being said, our country is broke or going broke, and I'm sure the Dems are trying to squeeze anything they possibly can in with that bill, Just like the "Cap and Trade" bill.  Hell, I spend $175/month on insurance for myself that doesn't cover a damn thing.  The problem becomes when it is almost a disencentive to go to work because you actually get more if you have a bunch of kids and stay home.  And no, I'm not going to go to the political forum...I'm done talking now. JMO, Lovinlife
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Don't stop talking, and you are right, if you are single without kids you are penalized. Many years ago, before kids, my husband was laid off, we didn't want to but went to ask about food stamps. We were told we qualified for so little food stamps, basically enough to eat popcorn and white bread, I told them to shove it up their azzes. We were penalized because we had no kids. Don't we already in this country have medicaid, and in Cal it is called Medi Cal. Is that not like socialized medicine?
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« Reply #1689 on: July 01, 2009, 03:35:43 PM »


  Why would you have to go to the political forum Lovin? TIA JSM
Because I get on a tirade and can't shut my mouth, but I can't go there because it is scary and I'd be scared!!!!  I just meant, please don't make me go "over there"!
I'm with you, I wondered over there once, and flew out of there fast. I go on many tirades 
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« Reply #1690 on: July 01, 2009, 03:37:48 PM »

119,000,000 will be forced out of their private insurance if this new health plan goes through. 
REVOLTING, I'm mad as h*ll and not gonna take it anymore!!!! I'll be d*mned if they are going to take over my healthcare!!!!

I'm going to jump into the health care debate for a minute and will probably get creamed but here goes! We have national health care in Canada.  We each pay approx $50 a month single, there is another amount for families.  With that you can get any kind of health service you require, including any kind of specialist, operation, etc., with any specialist you want. For example, my friends husband has leukemia. He is taking a medication for it that costs $9000 a month, but the healthcare pays for it. If you cannot afford to pay for your healthcare, it is provided free.  If you are in a low-income tax bracket, you will pay a reduced rate. This includes X-rays, diagnostic tests such as Cat scans and MRI's, hip replacements, knee replacements, open heart surgery, etc. And yes, there are waiting lists for non-emergency surgeries.  Oh yes, I forgot transplants are also on the included list, maternity deliveries and any kind of baby care - and on and on.  So we feel very fortunate - at least I do.
I have talked to others that were satisfied as well, socialized medicine. For me, because I have a HMO, Healthnet, I already feel that I have somekind of socialized medicine. It isn't the best, but we have always gotten the care we needed. And our prescriptions are five dollars for generic, and fifteen dollars for nongeneric.
I just know the care my relatives in England get, and it is Crap. Took 4 years for my Uncle to get a hip replaced. The man survived North Africa, and Sicily and couldn't get a hip. 
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« Reply #1691 on: July 01, 2009, 03:39:00 PM »


  Why would you have to go to the political forum Lovin? TIA JSM
Because I get on a tirade and can't shut my mouth, but I can't go there because it is scary and I'd be scared!!!!  I just meant, please don't make me go "over there"!
I have never been there no would I want you to be sent somewhere scary. JSM  an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1692 on: July 01, 2009, 03:40:32 PM »

119,000,000 will be forced out of their private insurance if this new health plan goes through. 
REVOLTING, I'm mad as h*ll and not gonna take it anymore!!!! I'll be d*mned if they are going to take over my healthcare!!!!

I'm going to jump into the health care debate for a minute and will probably get creamed but here goes! We have national health care in Canada.  We each pay approx $50 a month single, there is another amount for families.  With that you can get any kind of health service you require, including any kind of specialist, operation, etc., with any specialist you want. For example, my friends husband has leukemia. He is taking a medication for it that costs $9000 a month, but the healthcare pays for it. If you cannot afford to pay for your healthcare, it is provided free.  If you are in a low-income tax bracket, you will pay a reduced rate. This includes X-rays, diagnostic tests such as Cat scans and MRI's, hip replacements, knee replacements, open heart surgery, etc. And yes, there are waiting lists for non-emergency surgeries.  Oh yes, I forgot transplants are also on the included list, maternity deliveries and any kind of baby care - and on and on.  So we feel very fortunate - at least I do.
Not throwing nanners Grumbles, thanks for your input.  an angelic monkey

I understand all that, but how much do you pay in taxes? Do you have to wait three years to get a CT scan of the tumour growing in your belly like my Aunt did in England?

What about the little premature baby that was born and they had to send him to Buffalo because there wasn't a neonatal bed anywhere in Ontario? The parents can't even come to see the kid cause they don't have passports.

We have free healthcare too, its called the County Hospital. Parkland is one of the best hospitals in the country and you don't get turned away because you can't pay or have no insurance. This is just another move towards closer to Socialism by Obama and the Democrats.

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Oh dear - CT scans are given on the basis of need - if you need one now, you get one now. The neonatal baby was shipped to Buffalo to save it's life. It is unfortunate the parents do not hold passports, however because so many women in their late 30"s are having their first baby, there are many many more who have preemies and preemies with serious problems.  This is a new phenomenum (sp!#*#@!!) and it is true our neo-natal units need to catch up to the rate it's happening. I don't know if we pay higher taxes than you do - and I don't know what Obama is planning for you all - I just don't know why a family should have to lose everything and go bankrupt because a family member has cancer or needs heart surgery. I was just trying to say sometimes it's not all bad. And yes, the national insurance in England is a mess - and needs to be revamped.  At least they have stopped ex-pats from flying back to England to completely have all their dental work done for free.
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« Reply #1693 on: July 01, 2009, 03:40:49 PM »

People here do still have an extended health program that comes with most employment, which they pay for. It covers things such as massages, chiropractor visits, glasses and frames, counselling services for those going off the deep end (Hello? Spindy? I bet you had this benefit and didn't use it!) life insurance, prescription services, etc. etc., and most employers also completely pay the healthcare for their employees as a company benefit. The young man who lives below me was traveling and in a car accident in Manitoba, which is three  provinces (states) away from where I live.  He was badly injured, brain, and pelvis. He's a teacher but has been unable to work while he is in rehab. Even though he has returned home, Manitoba health continues, almost one year later, to pay him 90% of his salary he was making before the accident because he was injured in their province.
Luckily my insurance is paid for by my employer 100%. I just think the US is going down a deep slippery slope where there will be no return. I hope your friend is okay now.
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« Reply #1694 on: July 01, 2009, 03:41:57 PM »

Thanks for your insight Grumbles (Happy Canada Day, btw). 

My problem with the Health Care Bill that Obama is talking about is the fact that the American people will not be able to read the Bill.  With that being said, our country is broke or going broke, and I'm sure the Dems are trying to squeeze anything they possibly can in with that bill, Just like the "Cap and Trade" bill.  Hell, I spend $175/month on insurance for myself that doesn't cover a damn thing.  The problem becomes when it is almost a disencentive to go to work because you actually get more if you have a bunch of kids and stay home.  And no, I'm not going to go to the political forum...I'm done talking now. JMO, Lovinlife
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Don't stop talking, and you are right, if you are single without kids you are penalized. Many years ago, before kids, my husband was laid off, we didn't want to but went to ask about food stamps. We were told we qualified for so little food stamps, basically enough to eat popcorn and white bread, I told them to shove it up their azzes. We were penalized because we had no kids. Don't we already in this country have medicaid, and in Cal it is called Medi Cal. Is that not like socialized medicine?
I would be so screwed if I didn't have a job and I have no kids.
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« Reply #1695 on: July 01, 2009, 03:42:52 PM »

I wonder where CC has been lately..
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« Reply #1696 on: July 01, 2009, 03:43:03 PM »

Karl Malden dead at 97
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« Reply #1697 on: July 01, 2009, 03:43:11 PM »


  Why would you have to go to the political forum Lovin? TIA JSM
Because I get on a tirade and can't shut my mouth, but I can't go there because it is scary and I'd be scared!!!!  I just meant, please don't make me go "over there"!

LOVIN, JSM's thread is the be-all do-all as far as ranting!! I don't know how we had been able to contain ourselves before BEARLY gave her this thread. 
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« Reply #1698 on: July 01, 2009, 03:43:49 PM »

Karl Malden dead at 97

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« Reply #1699 on: July 01, 2009, 03:44:29 PM »


  Why would you have to go to the political forum Lovin? TIA JSM
Because I get on a tirade and can't shut my mouth, but I can't go there because it is scary and I'd be scared!!!!  I just meant, please don't make me go "over there"!
I have never been there no would I want you to be sent somewhere scary. JSM  an angelic monkey
I have heard that also about England, but not about Canada. Does Canada and England have the same type of socialized medicine? Maybe Canada's is better, Grumbles, what you wrote it doesn't sound bad.
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