Caylee Marie Anthony #140 6/24/09 - 7/05/09

[trimmonthelake]

O/T  Farrah Fawcett passed away.

[tupelohoney]

Page 25 shows the finding of Timothy Monforte's wallet with a Sears credit card from the inventory list that was posted earlier.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740700/detail.html

[Desdemona]

Hi Desi when you come back I thought I would post this capture of a part of the interview with the neighbor Jean about leaving in KC's car after an argument - I think it is rather confusing because he says "her mom got in her car and drove away" .....did he mean KC got in the car?  But when you read it it sounds like Cindy (the mom) got in the car and drove away.  But none the less he says this occurred in May sometime - end of May maybe.  My brain is fried on this one.

Hi Monks, Hi Mission!  Thanks for posting this!  This is exactly the part I mentioned, where the transcription caused confusion... I believe the "and" should read "at" ("AT her mom, got in her car, and drove away," etc.) -- then it makes more sense.  Or maybe he paused and switched directions after "mom", and the pause isn't indicated... Confusing, to say the least.

Anyway, here is the later part of the interview, where the details surrounding the two arguments that Mr. Couty witnessed were clarified. He specifies that Casey left in her car, the Pontiac.  Thank you again for posting that section... that is the part that caused the confusion.

[Desdemona]

Page 25 shows the finding of Timothy Monforte's wallet with a Sears credit card from the inventory list that was posted earlier.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740700/detail.html

Yuri interviewed Timothy Monforte Feb. 10, 2009.  Short and sweet.  Mr. Monforte and NoRose have something in common -- old unused credit cards stuffed away in a drawer in the garage...

Transcript:  http://abcactionnews.com/media/news/9/a/c/9acf0b67-ddae-483a-b16c-1d50fe1fc0d0/Timothy_Monforte_Interview_Transcript.pdf

[Desdemona]

Hi Desi when you come back I thought I would post this capture of a part of the interview with the neighbor Jean about leaving in KC's car after an argument - I think it is rather confusing because he says "her mom got in her car and drove away" .....did he mean KC got in the car?  But when you read it it sounds like Cindy (the mom) got in the car and drove away.  But none the less he says this occurred in May sometime - end of May maybe.  My brain is fried on this one.

Hi Monks, Hi Mission!  Thanks for posting this!  This is exactly the part I mentioned, where the transcription caused confusion... I believe the "and" should read "at" ("AT her mom, got in her car, and drove away," etc.) -- then it makes more sense.  Or maybe he paused and switched directions after "mom", and the pause isn't indicated... Confusing, to say the least.

Anyway, here is the later part of the interview, where the details surrounding the two arguments that Mr. Couty witnessed were clarified. He specifies that Casey left in her car, the Pontiac.  Thank you again for posting that section... that is the part that caused the confusion.

[ETA:  Guess it would help if I included the transcript screenshot, huh?]

[Cappuccino]

Is Your Child or Teen "Huffing?"
Common Household Products - A Source of Inhalant Abuse

Medical Author: Melissa Conrad Stoppler, MD
Medical Editor: Dennis Lee, MD

Recently, several teens have died after inhaling the chemical difluoroethane from a popular computer cleaning spray known as Dust-Off. Falcon, the manufacturer of Dust-Off, labels cans of Dust-Off with conspicuous warnings about misuse of the product. The product Dust-Off itself is not the source of the problem; it is only one example of hundreds of common household products with the potential to be abused by inhalant abusers.

Inhalant abuse (commonly called "huffing") is the intentional inhalation of chemical vapors to attain a mental "high" or euphoric effect. A wide variety of substances, including many common household products, are abused by inhalers. The 2000 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse revealed that the primary population of inhalant abusers is the 12 to 17 age group, followed by the 18 to 25 year old population. In 2000, 18% of eighth graders admitted having used inhalants (huffing) at least once in their lifetime.

Inhalants produce an effect that may be similar to alcohol intoxication. Initial symptoms described by abusers who were "huffing" include:

drowsiness,
lightheadedness, and
loss of inhibition.
Further use can lead to the following:

dizziness,
hallucinations or delusions,
belligerence,
apathy, and
impaired judgment.
Long-term inhalant abusers can suffer damaging health consequences including:

depression and mood changes,
weight loss,
inattentiveness,
lack of coordination,
irritability, and
weakness.
More serious consequences can include permanent damage to the brain and other organs or even death. Sudden cardiac death from fatal cardiac arrhythmias has been reported even in teen inhalant abusers. Death from huffing can occur upon the first time of use, or after prolonged inhalant abuse. Other causes of death include asphyxiation, aspiration, or suffocation.

Chronic inhalant abuse may result in serious and sometimes irreversible damage to the user's heart, liver, kidneys, lungs, and brain. Brain damage may result in personality changes, diminished cognitive functioning, memory impairment, and slurred speech.

The Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) Medical Examiner data revealed that inhalants were involved in over 500 deaths in the United States from 1996 to 1999.

Substances commonly used by inhalant abusers fall into several categories:

Volatile solvents, such as those found in paint thinner, gasoline, felt-tip markers, nail polish remover, glue, and other household products.
Aerosol sprays containing propellants and solvents. Examples include spray paint, deodorant, and hair care products.
Gases, most commonly nitrous oxide (laughing gas).
Nitrites, a group of chemicals that are used in room deodorizers, are more often abused by those seeking sexual enhancement rather than a euphoric state. Nitrites are most commonly abused by adults.
Parents of teens need to be especially vigilant about signs of inhalant abuse (huffing), since the abused substances are simple household items and not readily identifiable as drugs of abuse. These substances are also easily purchased and inexpensive, making them attractive to curious teens. In addition to signs of intoxication, parents should be warned of potential inhalant abuse by sores and scratches around the mouth area along with the presence of unusual odors.

For additional information, please visit the following areas:

Teen Center 
Drug Abuse

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SOURCES: United States Department of Health & Human Services.


Last Editorial Review: 7/18/2005

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=47975

So is this ultimately what the defense will be, that Casey suffered poor judgment/brain damage due to being a hoe & taking things to lose her inhibitions...yea that would be a new one for certain.   Not exactly a sympathetic approach nor forgiveable due to its negligent and disgusting nature -- it wont explain Casey's long term behavioral issues.

[Lovinlife]

Lovin',was it something like this?
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=47975

  exactly.  But I wanted to find the inventory list of evidence with it on it. 

Page 201        http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740700/detail.html

That's it, item #19.  You are an 

[no rose colored glasses]

One of the main things of this case that I can't figure out, if the Anthonys were so concerned about Caylee, why in the world didn't they call the police, the car Casey was driving was in their name, they should have done that. That will never make sense to me, they could have come up with something, stolen car, anything if they were that darned concerned. Nothing adds up, and the more you look at all this the more confused this gets with Cindy and George and their actions when they were trying to figure out where the two of them were. There is no way that I believe that Cindy believed the crap Casey was telling her about Caylee. You would have to have half a brain, and even then how could you buy that bs?

[CasuallyCool]

Txs a bunch NR for posting the article.  They seem SO nice of a couple that I'm thinking about putting them up in my house.     

[no rose colored glasses]

Txs a bunch NR for posting the article.  They seem SO nice of a couple that I'm thinking about putting them up in my house.     

If you do, make sure your cupboards and fridge have locks on them 

[always 1]

Txs a bunch NR for posting the article.  They seem SO nice of a couple that I'm thinking about putting them up in my house.     

Will you use nails or screws???

[MuffyBee]

OT Farrah Fawcett thread:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5494.msg852894#msg852894

[cuteascanbe]

Is anyone else getting upset that everyone keeps saying "No motive?" Casey did nothing but lie. Little Caylee was getting to the age where she could talk and blow Casey's life out of the water...For a sociopath, what better motive did she need? That is why I believe it was premeditated, not a rage killing. Caylee was going to cramp more than her lovelife, she could expose Casey and back her into a corner...Lots of motive...

[TURBOTHINK]

Page 25 shows the finding of Timothy Monforte's wallet with a Sears credit card from the inventory list that was posted earlier.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740700/detail.html

Did you notice that Joy Wray gave them 11 photographs?

[Cappuccino]

One of the main things of this case that I can't figure out, if the Anthonys were so concerned about Caylee, why in the world didn't they call the police, the car Casey was driving was in their name, they should have done that. That will never make sense to me, they could have come up with something, stolen car, anything if they were that darned concerned. Nothing adds up, and the more you look at all this the more confused this gets with Cindy and George and their actions when they were trying to figure out where the two of them were. There is no way that I believe that Cindy believed the crap Casey was telling her about Caylee. You would have to have half a brain, and even then how could you buy that bs?

Cindy certainly did not believe Casey but as exhibited over and over again Cindy continued to excuse & ignore so much, I believe because she did not want the outside world knowing her family's dirty laundry.   The most obvious conclusion to this is that they did not call 911 after making that stenching coming from Casey's car.   Instead they drove that stomach turning vehicle of death home attempting to clean it out & Cindy went back to work & refused to call 911 at the wise and encouraged advice of her co-workers...she was quoted as saying she wanted to wait to get an explanation from Casey which indicates she knew darn well they did not suspect Casey was not a victim. 

[no rose colored glasses]

One of the main things of this case that I can't figure out, if the Anthonys were so concerned about Caylee, why in the world didn't they call the police, the car Casey was driving was in their name, they should have done that. That will never make sense to me, they could have come up with something, stolen car, anything if they were that darned concerned. Nothing adds up, and the more you look at all this the more confused this gets with Cindy and George and their actions when they were trying to figure out where the two of them were. There is no way that I believe that Cindy believed the crap Casey was telling her about Caylee. You would have to have half a brain, and even then how could you buy that bs?

Cindy certainly did not believe Casey but as exhibited over and over again Cindy continued to excuse & ignore so much, I believe because she did not want the outside world knowing her family's dirty laundry.   The most obvious conclusion to this is that they did not call 911 after making that stenching coming from Casey's car.   Instead they drove that stomach turning vehicle of death home attempting to clean it out & Cindy went back to work & refused to call 911 at the wise and encouraged advice of her co-workers...she was quoted as saying she wanted to wait to get an explanation from Casey which indicates she knew darn well they did not suspect Casey was not a victim. 

I hear what you are saying, but my God it was her grandchild.

[Fanny Mae]

Lovin',was it something like this?
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=47975

  exactly.  But I wanted to find the inventory list of evidence with it on it. 

Page 201        http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740700/detail.html

That's it, item #19.  You are an 

I hope MAMACRAZY sees this. I really couldn't remember where it was found last night.   

[Fanny Mae]

Page 25 shows the finding of Timothy Monforte's wallet with a Sears credit card from the inventory list that was posted earlier.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740700/detail.html

Did you notice that Joy Wray gave them 11 photographs?

I wonder if that was the pictures that Joy had and was trying to give the LE at the Suburban search site that supposedly showed she had already searched that area?

[Cappuccino]

One of the main things of this case that I can't figure out, if the Anthonys were so concerned about Caylee, why in the world didn't they call the police, the car Casey was driving was in their name, they should have done that. That will never make sense to me, they could have come up with something, stolen car, anything if they were that darned concerned. Nothing adds up, and the more you look at all this the more confused this gets with Cindy and George and their actions when they were trying to figure out where the two of them were. There is no way that I believe that Cindy believed the crap Casey was telling her about Caylee. You would have to have half a brain, and even then how could you buy that bs?

Cindy certainly did not believe Casey but as exhibited over and over again Cindy continued to excuse & ignore so much, I believe because she did not want the outside world knowing her family's dirty laundry.   The most obvious conclusion to this is that they did not call 911 after making that stenching coming from Casey's car.   Instead they drove that stomach turning vehicle of death home attempting to clean it out & Cindy went back to work & refused to call 911 at the wise and encouraged advice of her co-workers...she was quoted as saying she wanted to wait to get an explanation from Casey which indicates she knew darn well they did not suspect Casey was not a victim. 

I hear what you are saying, but my God it was her grandchild.

O I know NoRose, from the very beginning this fact has been turmoil for me as in evidently millions.   It is one thing to love your children, its another to defend their despicable acts foresaking all others much less another blood relative, an innocent babygirl.

[Fanny Mae]

One of the main things of this case that I can't figure out, if the Anthonys were so concerned about Caylee, why in the world didn't they call the police, the car Casey was driving was in their name, they should have done that. That will never make sense to me, they could have come up with something, stolen car, anything if they were that darned concerned. Nothing adds up, and the more you look at all this the more confused this gets with Cindy and George and their actions when they were trying to figure out where the two of them were. There is no way that I believe that Cindy believed the crap Casey was telling her about Caylee. You would have to have half a brain, and even then how could you buy that bs?

Cindy certainly did not believe Casey but as exhibited over and over again Cindy continued to excuse & ignore so much, I believe because she did not want the outside world knowing her family's dirty laundry.   The most obvious conclusion to this is that they did not call 911 after making that stenching coming from Casey's car.   Instead they drove that stomach turning vehicle of death home attempting to clean it out & Cindy went back to work & refused to call 911 at the wise and encouraged advice of her co-workers...she was quoted as saying she wanted to wait to get an explanation from Casey which indicates she knew darn well they did not suspect Casey was not a victim. 

I hear what you are saying, but my God it was her grandchild.

That is why I said that George and Spindy were not truthful about wanting to take Caylee away from Skanky. They were both so self-absorbed with their own lives, and they really didn't have time to be concerned with a two year old. They had too many other issues between them. Now they are trying to pull the devoted grandparents and it just ain't flying. JMO