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« on: June 22, 2009, 12:22:21 AM »

NEW YORK —  When Jerry Damman first got news his son may have been found after vanishing from Long Island more than 50 years ago, he said it "was almost too good to believe."

It turned out he was right.

His new hope was dashed when DNA tests last week revealed that John Barnes, the man who claimed he was the missing boy, actually wasn't — an outcome that didn't surprise law enforcement officials and experts.

They say a storybook ending was a long shot from the start. Past cases show that it's rare for someone purporting to be a long-lost child to suddenly come forward, and rarer still that he or she ultimately proves to be the person who vanished.

"That would be extraordinary," said Joseph A. Pollini, a former New York Police Department cold-case investigator now teaching at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

At least 15 people have approached the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children in the last decade with beliefs like Barnes', but none turned out to be the missing children they sincerely thought they were, said Jerry Nance, who oversees long-term missing child investigations for the organization.

Like Barnes, most started with a feeling that they simply didn't belong in their families, then researched old missing-child cases and found one that seemed to fit, Nance said.

More than 778,000 people nationwide were reported missing last year. Nearly 80 percent of them were under 18, FBI statistics show.

Most missing children are found fairly quickly, according to a 2002 study done for the federal Department of Justice. The study found fewer than 10 percent of missing children were kidnapped, usually by relatives.

Police in New York — where 8,202 missing persons cases were opened last year — also say that nearly all children reported missing soon turn up.

One exception was the headline-grabbing case of 6-year-old Etan Patz, who vanished 30 years ago after leaving his apartment to catch a bus to school. The disappearance remains unsolved, though the family members have said they believe a baby sitters' boyfriend, a convicted child molester, killed the boy.

The boyfriend, who remains in prison, has not been charged in the case. But he was ruled responsible for the boy's disappearance in a civil case. A judge ordered him in 2005 to pay Etan's family $2 million.

New York City police procedures require an immediate and aggressive search for missing children under 16. Detectives can call in police helicopters or boats, and they often contact social workers because many disappearances involve child custody disputes.

In the Long Island case, Stephen Damman was 2 when he disappeared while his mother shopped on Oct. 31, 1955.

Investigators chased down leads around the country, to no avail. A hope for a major break came and went in 1957, when a boy's body was found buried in a cardboard box in Philadelphia. But it was determined not to be Stephen's.

Other police departments have contacted Nassau County investigators about four times in the last six years about cases that might match Stephen's disappearance, but none of the inquiries led anywhere, Nassau police Lt. Kevin Smith said.

Detectives were initially leery when Barnes, an unemployed Michigan laborer in his 50s, contacted them earlier this year, Smith said. But when Barnes called back some weeks later to say a private DNA test had shown he and Stephen's sister might be related, Nassau police turned the case over to the FBI.

The FBI said Thursday that more extensive DNA tests found Barnes and the woman could not be siblings.

While the finding may send the Damman case back into limbo, it isn't the only 1950s missing-child mystery getting renewed attention.

As Barnes' claims made headlines this week, FBI agents and local authorities explored possible leads in the disappearance of Daniel Barter, who vanished on a family camping trip along Perdido Bay in southern Alabama on June 18, 1959, when he was 4 1/2 years old.

Hundreds of volunteers conducted a manhunt and even gutted alligators to see if they had eaten the boy. Then-FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover sent the family a telegram pledging the agency's aid.

But the investigation stalled before new details emerged in recent years. A conversation about the case was overheard in a doctor's office, and investigators got a tip that someone elsewhere was familiar with an abduction in the area in the 1950s, FBI Special Agent Angela Tobon said.

After five decades, Mike Barter isn't sure what he thinks happened to his older brother. But he, his siblings and supporters held a candlelight vigil Saturday at the campsite in Lillian, Ala., to draw attention to the case's 50th anniversary.

"The more you bring any missing person up," he said, the more chance "some little something — some wording, something to flash back in someone's memory — brings back something that they can work with."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528038,00.html
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 07:38:08 PM »

One that did show up was Steven Stayner, who later died in a car accident.
When he did show up it was to save another boy from what Steven had experienced during his years of abduction..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Stayner

Tragedy surrounded the stayner boys and years later his own brother cary stayner would turn himself in for the murders of the Sund mom and daughter and a friend as well as a yosemite park worker who was also murdered..

 
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 08:31:06 PM »

Another 2 boys that showed up was Ben Ownby and Shawn Hornbeck.
But unlike Steven stayner who saved a victim, had a police officer not been at his door I doubt Shawn Hornbeck would have tried to find help for Ben Ownby.
 Shawn was an interesting victim..
 
" Neighbors thought Shawn was Devlin's son and said the boy was free to ride a bike, hang out with friends and cruise the Internet.
When Ben was abducted soon after getting off a school bus in January, a witness got a
description of a white pickup seen speeding away. The description matched Devlin's vehicle,
leading to his arrest."


I have always wondered if that behavior of his was really stockholm syndrome. But what do I know..

Ben was a real victim and a very observant police officer saved him from his abductor and ultimately saved Shawn too.
Anyways.. All is well that ends well.

I have mixed feelings on this case..
But it does show that sometimes missing kids do in fact show up even years later..


 
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 06:51:02 PM »

Another 2 boys that showed up was Ben Ownby and Shawn Hornbeck.
But unlike Steven stayner who saved a victim, had a police officer not been at his door I doubt Shawn Hornbeck would have tried to find help for Ben Ownby.
 Shawn was an interesting victim..
 
" Neighbors thought Shawn was Devlin's son and said the boy was free to ride a bike, hang out with friends and cruise the Internet.
When Ben was abducted soon after getting off a school bus in January, a witness got a
description of a white pickup seen speeding away. The description matched Devlin's vehicle,
leading to his arrest."


I have always wondered if that behavior of his was really stockholm syndrome. But what do I know..

Ben was a real victim and a very observant police officer saved him from his abductor and ultimately saved Shawn too.
Anyways.. All is well that ends well.

I have mixed feelings on this case..
But it does show that sometimes missing kids do in fact show up even years later..


I know this is an old thread.. Just did a search on the site and this was one of threads that had posts about Shawn.

There was a show dedicated to this case on 48 Hours on the I.D. channel today. Some interesting information was shared. Shawn was tied up everyday while Devlin was at work for about a month and the show said he was tortured during this time. At some point Devlin told him that he would bring him home, so they got in his truck and drove in that direction.. but later got off on this deserted road where Devlin got him to get outside of the truck tried to strangle Shawn. Shawn said that he plead for his life and say that he would do what Devlin wanted or Devlin would kill him.

Remembering that this boy was 11 years old at the time when he was abducted, then almost murdered and his captor decided to let him live.. I don't doubt that there was some form of staying quiet and obedient in order to stay alive and believing there would be death or punishment if he tried to leave. Some of thse captors even warn there will be violence against the family if the child gets away.

How about the Elizabeth Smart story.. where she was at parties and in public at times and never hinted at her abduction or asked for help.. She even gave a different name when she was found, didn't she. These aren't adults with reasoning skills that may be able to recognize that others would believe them if they saught help. These are children who have been abducted from their families and are fighting to stay alive and safe while being tormented by adults.

The obediency showed by the abducted children wasn't taught overnight.. it was probably grilled into them over a time of systematic torture/rape/psychological breaking of their will. Their eventual "freedoms" were probably only given once the abductor broke them down enough that the children believed that there was no hope for getting away from their abductors, even if they saught help.

(Sorry for the rant.. did a search on Shawn on google and came up with this interview of Bill O'Reilly's where he says that Shawn liked being abducted.. which got me all riled up. As if Shawn enjoyed the being tied up, tortured, raped, almost murdered, taken from his parents and would rather that than going to school. He was 11!!! What eleven year old would think like that. pfft!)
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 07:01:57 PM »

Another 2 boys that showed up was Ben Ownby and Shawn Hornbeck.
But unlike Steven stayner who saved a victim, had a police officer not been at his door I doubt Shawn Hornbeck would have tried to find help for Ben Ownby.
 Shawn was an interesting victim..
 
" Neighbors thought Shawn was Devlin's son and said the boy was free to ride a bike, hang out with friends and cruise the Internet.
When Ben was abducted soon after getting off a school bus in January, a witness got a
description of a white pickup seen speeding away. The description matched Devlin's vehicle,
leading to his arrest."


I have always wondered if that behavior of his was really stockholm syndrome. But what do I know..

Ben was a real victim and a very observant police officer saved him from his abductor and ultimately saved Shawn too.
Anyways.. All is well that ends well.

I have mixed feelings on this case..
But it does show that sometimes missing kids do in fact show up even years later..


I know this is an old thread.. Just did a search on the site and this was one of threads that had posts about Shawn.

There was a show dedicated to this case on 48 Hours on the I.D. channel today. Some interesting information was shared. Shawn was tied up everyday while Devlin was at work for about a month and the show said he was tortured during this time. At some point Devlin told him that he would bring him home, so they got in his truck and drove in that direction.. but later got off on this deserted road where Devlin got him to get outside of the truck tried to strangle Shawn. Shawn said that he plead for his life and say that he would do what Devlin wanted or Devlin would kill him.

Remembering that this boy was 11 years old at the time when he was abducted, then almost murdered and his captor decided to let him live.. I don't doubt that there was some form of staying quiet and obedient in order to stay alive and believing there would be death or punishment if he tried to leave. Some of thse captors even warn there will be violence against the family if the child gets away.

How about the Elizabeth Smart story.. where she was at parties and in public at times and never hinted at her abduction or asked for help.. She even gave a different name when she was found, didn't she. These aren't adults with reasoning skills that may be able to recognize that others would believe them if they saught help. These are children who have been abducted from their families and are fighting to stay alive and safe while being tormented by adults.

The obediency showed by the abducted children wasn't taught overnight.. it was probably grilled into them over a time of systematic torture/rape/psychological breaking of their will. Their eventual "freedoms" were probably only given once the abductor broke them down enough that the children believed that there was no hope for getting away from their abductors, even if they saught help.

(Sorry for the rant.. did a search on Shawn on google and came up with this interview of Bill O'Reilly's where he says that Shawn liked being abducted.. which got me all riled up. As if Shawn enjoyed the being tied up, tortured, raped, almost murdered, taken from his parents and would rather that than going to school. He was 11!!! What eleven year old would think like that. pfft!)

Oh yea.. and hearing about when the families were reunited with their boys brought me to tears.. I only wish more children are found after being abducted.

The police woman/detective who interviewed Devlin at his work that day was brilliant.. the way she was able to get the information out of him about his nephew "Shawn" and then realized he was the missing boy.

Also, the boy who saw Devlins vehicle the day that Ben went missing is probably the sole reason they were found. He was a truck enthusiast who was able to give them a make, model, description of dirt/rust spots, and description of the truck itself (types of windows, latches, etc.) even where it sped out from. (he felt bad for not remembering the plate #). They were able to get tire marks. And that description tipped off Devlins boss, who noticed Devlin had a truck exactly like that and left early that day.. and then didn't come to work the next day or two.. The boss called police and that great detective just worked Devlin over.
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Thanks Brandi!


« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2011, 09:06:02 PM »

Etan Patz case, May 25, 1979 missing on way to school bus

Nancy Grace has the case tonight. Says the case is being reopened. I will post the transcript when posted.
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