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« Reply #120 on: June 25, 2009, 02:26:14 PM »

here is richard allen lawless, brother of gerald dee lawless, carlee lawless, john mack lawless, etc
this is the son of richard birdette lawless. 

he is also knows as dick lawless or at least someone is connected to him with that name. 

LAWLESS, RICHARD A (Age 72)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, R
 DEER PARK, WA
WENATCHEE, WA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DEANNA L (Age 64)
LAWLESS, DICK 

DD, I'm confused, I thought the children of Richard Birdette Lawless were Carleen nee Lawless Sheperd, John Mack Lawless married to Shutt, Nancy nee Lawlesss Pizzitola, and Gerald D. Lawless married to Luanne nee Warner, et al.  With RBL's first wife (Wilma Holt), there may be a Bill Lawless.  Where did Richard Allan Lawless fit in?  Me very confused.
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« Reply #121 on: June 25, 2009, 03:07:26 PM »

here is richard allen lawless, brother of gerald dee lawless, carlee lawless, john mack lawless, etc
this is the son of richard birdette lawless. 

he is also knows as dick lawless or at least someone is connected to him with that name. 

LAWLESS, RICHARD A (Age 72)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, R
 DEER PARK, WA
WENATCHEE, WA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DEANNA L (Age 64)
LAWLESS, DICK 

DD, I'm confused, I thought the children of Richard Birdette Lawless were Carleen nee Lawless Sheperd, John Mack Lawless married to Shutt, Nancy nee Lawlesss Pizzitola, and Gerald D. Lawless married to Luanne nee Warner, et al.  With RBL's first wife (Wilma Holt), there may be a Bill Lawless.  Where did Richard Allan Lawless fit in?  Me very confused.

he is a brother we did not have that I have been told does exist, he is the brother of Carlee/Carleen, John Mack, Nancy and Gerald Dee Lawless. 

I am not sure who his mother is, whether bette june grimes or wilma holt, I will find out at some point. 


The only bill is the adopted son of William Bill Lawless uncle of CLL.
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« Reply #122 on: June 25, 2009, 03:09:34 PM »

let me add. 

I am being TOLD this, I am still looking for docs to confirm, however we are probably not going to find confirmation of adoption.  But I believe what I am being told.  The person KNOWS without a doubt who everyone is. 
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« Reply #123 on: June 25, 2009, 03:31:11 PM »

DD, I am so glad you have found someone who knows, what a huge help!
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« Reply #124 on: June 25, 2009, 03:33:23 PM »

DD, I am so glad you have found someone who knows, what a huge help!

yes, it is helping, but it is a strange situation I can't explain and I can't just ask for info.  I just wait to be offered it 
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« Reply #125 on: June 25, 2009, 03:35:23 PM »

One other thing I am confused about (not really, there are lots but that would be O/T), Richard and Betty were married in 1945.  Would that mean that Carleen, John M, and Richard A. were born before they were married?  We know Nancy was born around 1946 and Gerald after her.
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« Reply #126 on: June 25, 2009, 07:40:25 PM »

One other thing I am confused about (not really, there are lots but that would be O/T), Richard and Betty were married in 1945.  Would that mean that Carleen, John M, and Richard A. were born before they were married?  We know Nancy was born around 1946 and Gerald after her.

carlee/carleen A Lawless is abt 54 years old so she would have been born abt 1955

hmmm if richard allen lawless is born nov 1936 he must be the son of wilma holt?

let me go check on all these dates. 

I know carlee's is right.
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« Reply #127 on: June 25, 2009, 08:05:26 PM »

ok this is correct so far, will find the other dates and add them

Descendants of Richard Birdette Lawless


Generation No. 1

1.  RICHARD BIRDETTE3 LAWLESS  (JAMES H "W"2, MCNEALY A. "MACK"1) was born March 22, 1910 in Wenatchee, Washington, USA, and died May 26, 1962 in Brewster, Okanogan, Washington, United States.  He married (1) WILMA TOOTS HOLT 1936 in Seattle, King, Washington, USA.    He married (2) BETTE JUNE GRIMES December 31, 1945 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, USA.  She was born June 27, 1923 in Albion, Carter, Montana, USA.
   
Child of RICHARD LAWLESS and WILMA HOLT is:
   i.   RICHARD ALLEN4 LAWLESS, b. November 1936.

   
Children of RICHARD LAWLESS and BETTE GRIMES are:
2.   ii.   GERALD DEE4 LAWLESS.
   iii.   JOHN MACK LAWLESS.
3.   iv.   NANCY LAWLESS, b. October 1946.
   v.   CARLEE LAWLESS, b. Abt. 1955; m. TOM SHEPARD.
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« Reply #128 on: June 25, 2009, 08:28:06 PM »

I believe this is correct, but will check more
Descendants of Richard Allen Lawless
                              
   1     Richard Allen Lawless   1936 -   b: November 1936                  
.      +Virginia Hammond                        
........   2     child Lawless                        
........   2     child Lawless                        
      *2nd Wife of Richard Allen Lawless:                        
.      +Nellie Phyllis Lawless   1942 - 1975   b: August 01, 1942   d: November 09, 1975 in Lincoln, Montana, USA      Age at death: 33         
........   2     child Lawless                        
      *3rd Wife of Richard Allen Lawless:                        
.      +Unknown                        
........   2     child Lawless                        
........   2     child Lawless                        
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« Reply #129 on: June 25, 2009, 10:32:20 PM »

I believe this is correct, but will check more
Descendants of Richard Allen Lawless
                              
   1     Richard Allen Lawless   1936 -   b: November 1936                  
.      +Virginia Hammond                        
........   2     child Lawless                        
........   2     child Lawless                        
      *2nd Wife of Richard Allen Lawless:                        
.      +Nellie Phyllis Lawless   1942 - 1975   b: August 01, 1942   d: November 09, 1975 in Lincoln, Montana, USA      Age at death: 33         
........   2     child Lawless                        
      *3rd Wife of Richard Allen Lawless:                        
.      +Unknown                        
........   2     child Lawless                        
........   2     child Lawless                        

I'm noticing the child rapist, Richard Ray Lawless, committed those crimes in Washington but resides in Montana...just like Richard Allen Lawless...
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« Reply #130 on: June 25, 2009, 11:39:54 PM »

richard allen lawless lives in washington, his exwife died in montana. 
he is born 1936
richard ray lawless is born 1948

too old to be the same
not enough years apart to be father and son. 
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« Reply #131 on: June 28, 2009, 09:02:04 PM »

Anthony Christopher Gomes is born 04/07/1966
Isn't one of the Gary D. Lawless birth date the same?
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« Reply #132 on: June 28, 2009, 09:15:46 PM »

Anthony Christopher Gomes is born 04/07/1966
Isn't one of the Gary D. Lawless birth date the same?

CA Sex Offender Registry, CA
Full Name:  Gary Wayne Gomes     Date of Birth:      09/01/1960
AKAs:      G Gomes
CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
Case Number:      18699068C6997
Offense Type:    Rape
Offense Code:    261(A)(2)
Offense Description:    RAPE BY FORCE/FEAR/ETC
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« Reply #133 on: June 28, 2009, 09:16:33 PM »

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« Reply #134 on: June 28, 2009, 09:23:26 PM »

Full Name: Dick Lawless Date of Birth: 08/05/1948
AKAs: Height: 5'11"
Weight: 150 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: HAZEL
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
Offense Date:
S Sex Related
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 4
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:
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« Reply #135 on: June 28, 2009, 09:26:56 PM »

Full Name: Dick Lawless Date of Birth: 08/05/1948
AKAs: Height: 5'11"
Weight: 150 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: HAZEL
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
Offense Date:
S Sex Related
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 4
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:


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Sexual or Violent Offender Search Details

Offender
Name: Lawless, Richard Ray
Offender Type: Sexual
Level: Non-Designated


Photo Date: 11/26/2007

Physical Description (Updated 03/22/2007)  Race: Caucasian Sex: Male Age: 60
Height: 5'11" Weight: 150 Birth Date: 08/05/1948
Skin Tone:  Hair: Brown Eyes: Hazel
Scars, Marks, Tattoos: 

Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail 
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728
County: Powell
 
Offense Non-Montana Statute:  Washington Rape Of A Child  Counts:  1 
Sentence Date:  09/24/1986 
 
Registration Agency  Agency: Powell County Sheriff Phone: (406) 846-2711

Registrant Information Updated: 03/24/2009 09:32:28 AM
Source: Montana Sexual or Violent Offender Registry



Name:   Lawless, Richard Ray  Year of birth:  1948   
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID   

Case History
Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Richard Ray Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-1997-0005906   Magistrate   Judge:  Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  02/16/1997  I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit
Arresting Officer:  Hill, George, LPD  29644  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 03/03/1997
Fines/fees: $48.00
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« Reply #136 on: June 30, 2009, 12:47:18 AM »

Does anyone else think it took "Lane" a long time to get through school.  I don't know about California, but back in the 20s and 30s, many graduated by only going 11 years and not 12.

1931 - Lane born in August, currently age 77, tho some reports say 67

1941 - Connie born in August

1943 - Arthur DeWayne Harris (Connie's brother) born

1950 - Lane attended Brewster High School, on debate squad in Brewster WA 

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