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« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2009, 12:26:58 AM »

I have been TOLD this info..

 James Webster Lawless {1865-1945}, had: George Webster, John Mack, William Bryan, Ralph Devere, and Richard Birdette. They all lived, and are now buried, in Brewster WA. there is no one named Gary. There are no second cousins on this line, as none of James' siblings had any children.  George had 2 sons: Lane and Paul, Lane had 2 sons: Brian and Brett and all 3 live in CA. Paul never married or had children and is deceased.  John and Uncle Ralph never married or had children.  Bill had 1 adopted son: Bill, who is not married nor does he have any children and lives in the same town Brewster, WA. Sons of richard birdette lawless are Gerald Dee, Richard Allen, and John Mack, all living in WA. So I don't think James Lawless could be related to the Gary D or Ronald Sutton. But it is a mystery where James was for a # of years, so there is a possibility of a second family I suppose. But we do know that $ was sent to Missouri to bury James, in Nov 1945. So I don't think there is a CA connection, but who knows. I guess anything is possible.
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« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2009, 12:27:49 AM »

the info in the previous post is about the BOYS.  does not include daughters.  this is because I was asking about boys / is there a gary etc. 
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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2009, 12:28:17 AM »

Is he the Richard Lawless that married Clarenda Harris McKey?
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« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2009, 12:30:29 AM »

I just wanted to say that I have followed this research from the beginning of Blink's article on BOC. Everyday, few times a day, I come in to catch up. I suck at researching, and I suck at computers, but all you guys are doing a fantastic job, and I really wish that I could offer some kind of assistance.

I look forward to the day I come in to see this all wrapped up with a pretty bow!

You guys rock! Carry on...     an angelic monkey 

Hi Gizzie.  you don't have to know how to research to help, just brainstorming ideas sometimes triggers something everyone else misses.  or you might be scanning through info and notice someone connects to something else where we have alll mjissed it.  there is so much info on these threads it is osmetimes hard to connect it all.
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« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2009, 12:32:37 AM »

ok, Richard Birdette Lawless actually goes by the name Dick who is carleen Shepards father in Brewster?

I never saw that he goes by the name of Dick, though seems logical, I have seen him go by Birdette.  Anyway, Carleen Lawless, daughter of Richard/Dick Birdette Lawless and Betty June Grimes/Lawless/Johnson have four children.  She is the first child and she married Tom Shepherd and they have three children, Judd, Sarah, and Terry.  Second child is John M. Lawless, third child is Nancy Lawless, and fourth child is Gerald Dee Lawless who married the infamous Luann Warner/Campbell/Fox/Lawless.

Nancy Lawless married & became Nancy Pizzatola nee lawless
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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2009, 12:36:44 AM »

Is he the Richard Lawless that married Clarenda Harris McKey?

richard birdette lawless married wilma toots first then he married bette june grimes, I have not found any other marriages. 
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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2009, 12:40:46 AM »

ok, I got something else I need to have clarified:
Betty June Grimes/Lawless/Johnson -- her father was Paul Johanthan Grimes (1887-1962) married Florence Lucile Shepard (1889-1987).  That can't be right????
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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2009, 12:46:36 AM »

ok, I got something else I need to have clarified:
Betty June Grimes/Lawless/Johnson -- her father was Paul Johanthan Grimes (1887-1962) married Florence Lucile Shepard (1889-1987).  That can't be right????

what are you seeing that it can't be right? LOL

I can recheck it though
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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2009, 12:50:47 AM »

there is also a richard allen lawless, son of richard birdette lawless. 

I know you have better things to do, so this is my last confused
who did richard allen lawless marry?
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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2009, 12:54:19 AM »

there is also a richard allen lawless, son of richard birdette lawless. 

I know you have better things to do, so this is my last confused
who did richard allen lawless marry?

I don't mind at all.. all good questions. 

I don't know yet who he married LOL.  I just recently found out he existed.  LOL

I will be looking it up soon though
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2009, 12:55:18 AM »

Florence Lucile Shepard

Florence Lucile Shepard Grimes Conant, 88, of Prosser died at the Prosser

Memorial Nursing Home on March 8, 1987.  She was born on January 7, 1899, in Flora, Illinois, to Hiram Jacob and Susan Frances (Blackford) Shepard. She grew up in

Flora and Springfield, Illinois, where she received her education. Florence moved

with her parents to Pinenial, Montana in 1914, where she met her husband, Paul

Grimes in 1920. They were married April 17, 1921, in Belle Fourche, South Dakota. To

them were born eight children, Paul Eugene, Bette June, Robert Alfred, Melvin Richard, Thomas

Bartlett, Kathryn Maxine, Carl Francis, and James Edwin.

They owned and lived on a 1500 acre cattle and sheep ranch on Indian Creek, 24

miles north of Belle Fourche, South Dakota until they moved out to Cashmere, Washington in

1937. In 1950 they moved to Prosser, Washington where Paul died in 1962. In 1963,

Florence married Chris Conant and he died in 1975.

Florence was a member of the American Legion Auxiliary, the VFW Auxiliary Rosa

Barracks, the Royal Neighbors, the Senior Citizen Center, the Republican

Women's Club and the Happitime Band.

Florence was interned in the East Prosser Cemetary beside her husband, Paul,

on March 11,1987.

It was in the Spring of 1921 that my mother and Father first met. The

weather was just right to go for long walk and enjoy scenery, especially the

wildflowers along the way. Just maybe, she thought, a letter

today. The mailbox was about a mile from the ranch where she was staying.

As Florence neared the mailbox she saw a very good looking cowboy

sitting on his horse reading his mail and her heart skipped a beat. When he

saw her he said "Hi! Are you from the Blackford ranch? She answered " Yes,

I'm visiting my Uncle Ammon and his family". He said "Great, I work for your

Uncle.  My name is Paul J. Grimes. Then he asked if she would sew some

buttons on his shirts .

From this day on, Paul courted Florence and they were married that spring.

I think romance was in air in Montana that day!
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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2009, 01:02:29 AM »

Is he the Richard Lawless that married Clarenda Harris McKey?
There is a Richard Lawless that married Clarenda nee McKey.  Her father was Daniel and her mother Jane Pickens Hughes.
I feel like starting a who is this thread -- I've got dozens of them -- who is this Law-less person.
Nite and happy hunting.
 
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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2009, 01:02:46 AM »

richard allen married deanna L unknown, still looking
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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2009, 01:03:21 AM »

My oh My Sister!!!
Aren't you all dressed up..
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
Looking very Patriotic, indeed!
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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2009, 01:07:10 AM »

ok, I got something else I need to have clarified:
Betty June Grimes/Lawless/Johnson -- her father was Paul Johanthan Grimes (1887-1962) married Florence Lucile Shepard (1889-1987).  That can't be right????

what are you seeing that it can't be right? LOL

I can recheck it though

Betty June and Richard have a daughter Carleen who married a Sheperd?  Maybe the spelling is off.
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« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2009, 01:07:54 AM »

Next "I'm confused"
Timothy J Lawless' mother Maryilym Elizabeth Tieken/Short/Lawless/Gomes married Timothy's father, Gary D. Lawless in June of 1968.  She married him under the name of Tieken and she married him under the name of Short.  She married him after the birth of all 3 sons (Timothy, Gary D., and Jeffrey Carl).  One month, count it, one month later, she divorces him.
Question, why would a woman marry a man under 2 different names? and then divorce him one month later?

That is a VERY GOOD question....
As a woman, when I ask myself...
"What would make me leave my husband after a month of marriage???"
One answer that surely comes to mind is....
I would if I found out my husband raped or molested someone....
Just a monkey thought...
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« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2009, 01:08:02 AM »

if ya'll can get me the name of ex-hubby (well any info ya can really) (mh's) i can see what i can do...i'm in arkansas...and everyone knows everyone uggh.  someone, either ex-hub or new wife, Monkey Devil! has family in the area, because nobody just ups and decides to move to arkansas
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« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2009, 01:08:55 AM »

My oh My Sister!!!
Aren't you all dressed up..
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
Looking very Patriotic, indeed!


oh, thank you LM for noticing :>)  I had Brandi dress my bird for the coming holiday (although his blinking eye is giving me a headache).
BTW, thanks for this thread -- it is such a help!!
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« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2009, 01:10:29 AM »

ok, I got something else I need to have clarified:
Betty June Grimes/Lawless/Johnson -- her father was Paul Johanthan Grimes (1887-1962) married Florence Lucile Shepard (1889-1987).  That can't be right????

what are you seeing that it can't be right? LOL

I can recheck it though

Betty June and Richard have a daughter Carleen who married a Sheperd?  Maybe the spelling is off.

yes that is correct.

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« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2009, 01:11:54 AM »

Next "I'm confused"
Timothy J Lawless' mother Maryilym Elizabeth Tieken/Short/Lawless/Gomes married Timothy's father, Gary D. Lawless in June of 1968.  She married him under the name of Tieken and she married him under the name of Short.  She married him after the birth of all 3 sons (Timothy, Gary D., and Jeffrey Carl).  One month, count it, one month later, she divorces him.
Question, why would a woman marry a man under 2 different names? and then divorce him one month later?

That is a VERY GOOD question....
As a woman, when I ask myself...
"What would make me leave my husband after a month of marriage???"
One answer that surely comes to mind is....
I would if I found out my husband raped or molested someone....
Just a monkey thought...


Good thought, but I'm not sure.  They marry after they have the kids, then are only married a month.  I'm not sure, can't get it in my head and then son Timothy is a level 3.
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