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« Reply #100 on: June 23, 2009, 05:05:14 PM »

ok its a long shot..what if lawless isn't lawless?  what if he's short?  if short was HIS real last name it might make some since why she did it twice in one day.  if tiekin married lawless, she wouldn't be married to anyone..cause lawless isn't real.  so if she assumes his real last name as her last name (maiden) in the second "wedding"  at least it is documented somehow that she is married to the real guy.  ya'll know that all of this is very shady and i wouldn't be surprised if none of them can ever claim ss benefits.

she is the one listed as being marylin short married to gary d lawless. 
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« Reply #101 on: June 23, 2009, 05:09:36 PM »

i'm not gonna quit 'till i figure this out..see ya next year!
i'm gonna run with my lawless isn't really lawless theory.
ticken-(real name as far as i'm concerned with this theory) marries lawless (alias, not even real)  lawless real name short  (it would be ironic to have to take an alias and it be lawless lol) ticken knows that by marring lawless she's not really married to anyone (however, the fact that she had 3 kids before they got hitched i don't think marriage wasn't a pressing matter..i have the feeling that paper work was.)  so after ticken marries lawless, she then assumes the maiden name short (who she really just married)  so on a legal document the short's (real name, although not hers) are now legally tied to lawless.  so if say, dad wanted son to have 'real' last name-not alias they could by this happening.  now here's the kicker...it's ticken who divorces lawless...and if lawless dosen't really exist, then she' s not divorced (but was she ever legally married in the first place?  can you marry the same person on the same day under two different names..i doubt it.  it borders on pologmy....unless marylan ticken and marylan short really are two different people.  one we know is ticken dob mar 20 1937 in napa her mothers maiden name was foreman..then we have marylan short dob ? about 1938  well march is only 3 months into a year.  so short ends up being about a year older than ticken.  what woman wants to add an extra year to her age?  and ticken divorced lawless, then ticken married gomes and her year of birth goes back to 1937.  but both times she married lawless and when she divorced him she was a year older...but when she was born the year was 1937, and when she married gomes it was 1937....now we need to find any death records of a marylin short born around 1937  or a gary short who vanished from the face of the earth.
ugghh
i gotta call it a night.

you sound like me when I am trying to explain all this crazy stuff  Monkey Devil!
after you follow all this craziness for awhile you can kind of figure out something is really really wrong, but when you first are hearing it we all sound nuts Monkey Devil!

I follow what you are saying, but only because I have studied this stuff to pieces.  poor poor poor people who read here for the first time  Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #102 on: June 23, 2009, 05:19:06 PM »

ok its a long shot..what if lawless isn't lawless?  what if he's short?  if short was HIS real last name it might make some since why she did it twice in one day.  if tiekin married lawless, she wouldn't be married to anyone..cause lawless isn't real.  so if she assumes his real last name as her last name (maiden) in the second "wedding"  at least it is documented somehow that she is married to the real guy.  ya'll know that all of this is very shady and i wouldn't be surprised if none of them can ever claim ss benefits.

she is the one listed as being marylin short married to gary d lawless. 
here it goes again  mary(lyn) started her life tiekin, married lawless then turned around and married him again the same day as mary short.  now there has to be a reason that name is there.  it goes to my theory that lawless started his life with the last name short and for whatever reasons adopted the alias lawless.  well maybe due to ties to the short family or money or?? he had mary remarry him with her claiming her maiden name as short.  that way there is still a doc with gary d lawess but also the name of short. mary tiekin divorced gary lawless, but mary short never did. now how she got younger while with him i still don't understand
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« Reply #103 on: June 23, 2009, 05:52:34 PM »

maybe we should start a new thread to sort out marylin tieken, her marriages etc.  A lot of the info is over in the genealogy thread but running back and for through there is a mess.  If you start a new thread I will gather up the info and stick it over there and then look for whatever we might be missing
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« Reply #104 on: June 23, 2009, 06:15:38 PM »

maybe we should start a new thread to sort out marylin tieken, her marriages etc.  A lot of the info is over in the genealogy thread but running back and for through there is a mess.  If you start a new thread I will gather up the info and stick it over there and then look for whatever we might be missing

what a nice thing to offer. i'm no good at the genealogy stuff, but i have a great hinky.  sure,  it could be some fun.
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« Reply #105 on: June 23, 2009, 06:27:38 PM »

maybe we should start a new thread to sort out marylin tieken, her marriages etc.  A lot of the info is over in the genealogy thread but running back and for through there is a mess.  If you start a new thread I will gather up the info and stick it over there and then look for whatever we might be missing

what a nice thing to offer. i'm no good at the genealogy stuff, but i have a great hinky.  sure,  it could be some fun.

I just started a marilyn tieken thread so we can try to sort this out.  the thread is here
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5476.new
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« Reply #106 on: June 23, 2009, 11:56:23 PM »

ok, Richard Birdette Lawless actually goes by the name Dick who is carleen Shepards father in Brewster?

I never saw that he goes by the name of Dick, though seems logical, I have seen him go by Birdette.  Anyway, Carleen Lawless, daughter of Richard/Dick Birdette Lawless and Betty June Grimes/Lawless/Johnson have four children.  She is the first child and she married Tom Shepherd and they have three children, Judd, Sarah, and Terry.  Second child is John M. Lawless, third child is Nancy Lawless, and fourth child is Gerald Dee Lawless who married the infamous Luann Warner/Campbell/Fox/Lawless.

Nancy Lawless married & became Nancy Pizzatola nee lawless

"Dick" Lawless aka Richard Ray Lawless was born 08/05/48.  He is listed in the Trouble with the Law thread.  His son, also in the Trouble with the Law thread, is Richard Ray Lawless, Jr. who is married to an Amanda Marie Lawless, who is also listed in he Trouble with the Law thread.

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« Reply #107 on: June 24, 2009, 12:33:37 AM »

I think there is a news article which refers to either richard birdette lawless or his son richard allen lawless, as "dick".  it is most likely somewhere in the HUGE thread, towards the first half, I think it is from one of the news articles posted by probably northernrose. 
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« Reply #108 on: June 24, 2009, 01:39:07 PM »

I think there is a news article which refers to either richard birdette lawless or his son richard allen lawless, as "dick".  it is most likely somewhere in the HUGE thread, towards the first half, I think it is from one of the news articles posted by probably northernrose. 

Birth announcement Bryan Cole Lawless son of Louann (fraud charges) and Gerald/Jerry Lawless.  Bryan was born 14 Mar 1983 so if the apples does not fall far from the tree he may be "in the system" if someone has time to check.

Quad-City Herald - Mar 17, 1983
 


yes same birthdate, I had posted the charges earlier but did not know if the birthdate matched, but it does. 
now who is this DICK with the rape of child charge? at the end of this.  the other is the mother for fraud.
these are all in washinton

washington
Brynn Cole Lawless Date of Birth: 03/14/1983
AKAs: Height: 6'3"
Weight: 202 LBS
Hair Color: GRAY
Eye Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

V CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
V Violent
Case Number: 051004909
Offense Type: Assault
Offense Code: 9A36031
Offense Description: ASSAULT 3
Conviction Place: CHELAN
Date Reported:

washington
Full Name: Luanne Dee Lawless Date of Birth: 08/15/1957
AKAs: Height: 5'8"
Weight: 110 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: Female

T CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
T Theft/Robbery

Case Number: 962465
Offense Type: Fraud
Offense Code:
Offense Description: FORGERY FORGERY
Date Reported:

T CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 962465
Offense Type: Fraud
Offense Code:
Offense Description: OTHER FELONY FORGERY
Date Reported:


who is this?

Full Name: Dick Lawless Date of Birth: 08/05/1948
AKAs: Height: 5'11"
Weight: 150 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: HAZEL
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
Offense Date:
S Sex Related
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 4
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:


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« Reply #109 on: June 24, 2009, 01:41:40 PM »

 A question form BLINK
This would be January 2, 1975

Do we have Paul {Lawless} in Missouri?
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« Reply #110 on: June 24, 2009, 01:48:35 PM »

This si a Dick Lawless on FaceBook...
And all I can say is...Ewwwww!
WHO posts THAT as a PROFILE pic???? Monkey Devil!
Put a shirt on, Fella!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Lawless/1448205024
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« Reply #111 on: June 24, 2009, 02:02:57 PM »

I think there is a news article which refers to either richard birdette lawless or his son richard allen lawless, as "dick".  it is most likely somewhere in the HUGE thread, towards the first half, I think it is from one of the news articles posted by probably northernrose. 

i think this is Dick...Richard Ray Lawless
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MT02592410    Name
Lawless, Richard Ray    Designation
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Sexual
Level
Non-Designated    Birth Date
Aug 5 1948



Physical Description

Physical Description Updated
03/22/2007    Race
Caucasian    Gender
Male    Age
60
Skin Tone
   Hair
Brown    Eyes
Hazel    Height
5'11
Weight
150    Scars/Marks/Tattoos

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Last Known Address Reported
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742 Old West Mullen Trail    City
Elliston    State
MT
ZIP Code
59728    County
Powell

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Sentence Date
09/24/1986    Montana Statute
Washington Rape Of A Child    Non-Montana Statute
Washington Rape Of A Child    Counts
1
Victims Sex
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Registering Agency
Powell County Sheriff    Registering Agency Phone
(406) 846-2711    Registration Information Updated
05/12/2009 09:45:45 AM    Source
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« Reply #112 on: June 24, 2009, 04:24:51 PM »

I think there is a news article which refers to either richard birdette lawless or his son richard allen lawless, as "dick".  it is most likely somewhere in the HUGE thread, towards the first half, I think it is from one of the news articles posted by probably northernrose. 

Here is Richard Allen Lawless
from Trouble with the Law

I don't think I posted this before288

(a)     ATTEMPTED LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS

LAWLESS      First Name: ROBERT     Middle Name:  ALAN
Description    Offenses    Scars/Marks/Tattoos    Known Aliases
Last Known Address:    201 W CALIFORNIA AVE # 321
SUNNYVALE, 94086
County:    SANTA CLARA
Zip Code    94086
Date of Birth:    09-23-1983
Sex:    MALE
Height:    5'10"
Weight:    160
Eye Color:    GREEN
Hair Color:    BLONDE
Ethnicity:    WHITE
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« Reply #113 on: June 24, 2009, 04:26:45 PM »

Richard Allen Lawless born in 1983
Richard Ray Lawless born in 1948  I think this is aka Dick?
Richard Ray Lawless, Jr. born in 1971
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« Reply #114 on: June 24, 2009, 04:47:58 PM »

I think there is a news article which refers to either richard birdette lawless or his son richard allen lawless, as "dick".  it is most likely somewhere in the HUGE thread, towards the first half, I think it is from one of the news articles posted by probably northernrose. 

Here is Richard Allen Lawless
from Trouble with the Law

I don't think I posted this before288

(a)     ATTEMPTED LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS

LAWLESS      First Name: ROBERT     Middle Name:  ALAN
Description    Offenses    Scars/Marks/Tattoos    Known Aliases
Last Known Address:    201 W CALIFORNIA AVE # 321
SUNNYVALE, 94086
County:    SANTA CLARA
Zip Code    94086
Date of Birth:    09-23-1983
Sex:    MALE
Height:    5'10"
Weight:    160
Eye Color:    GREEN
Hair Color:    BLONDE
Ethnicity:    WHITE

that is ROBERT allen lawless, not RICHARD allen lawless LOL
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« Reply #115 on: June 24, 2009, 04:49:50 PM »

these are not the richard allen lawless, son of richard birdette lawless. 
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« Reply #116 on: June 24, 2009, 04:50:54 PM »

richard ray lawless

Name: Richard R Lawless
Birth Date: Aug 1948
Address: 3020 Grand Av #7, Everett, Washington 98201-0101 (1990)
[415 N Lakeview Rd #Tt4, Lynnwood, Washington 98037-0501 (1988)]
[6323 Beech St #21e, Everett, Washington 98203] 


DEER LODGE, MT
LEWISTON, ID
CLARKSTON, WA
MARYSVILLE, WA
EVERETT, WA
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE, WA
LYNNWOOD, WA Possible Relatives:

JEANBLANC, AMANDA MARIE (Age 30)
LAWLESS, RENEE M (Age 36)
LAWLES, RICHARD
BREITBACHLAWLESS, HEATHER CHRISTINE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MONTGOMERY, BRENDA KAY (Age 51)
 
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« Reply #117 on: June 24, 2009, 06:28:25 PM »

sorry, cut the wrong one
 
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« Reply #118 on: June 25, 2009, 01:27:06 AM »

here is richard allen lawless, brother of gerald dee lawless, carlee lawless, john mack lawless, etc
this is the son of richard birdette lawless. 

he is also knows as dick lawless or at least someone is connected to him with that name. 

LAWLESS, RICHARD A (Age 72)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, R
 DEER PARK, WA
WENATCHEE, WA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DEANNA L (Age 64)
LAWLESS, DICK 
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« Reply #119 on: June 25, 2009, 01:45:05 AM »

Name: Richard A Lawless
Birth Date: Nov 1936
Phone Number: 663-4227
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4920 W Staley Rd, Deer Park, Washington 99006-0401 (1993)
[1126 Glenwood St, Wenatchee, Washington 98801-1001 (1981)
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