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« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2009, 09:33:51 PM »

from the Trouble with the Law thread

this is the mother Marilyn Lawless/Gomes and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.
father and one brother are both named gary d lawless. 

CASE NUMBER:
FL35509
CASE TITLE:
LAWLESS VS. GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME RELATIONSHIP ATTORNEY NAME

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF PRO PER

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT N/A

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT N/A

EVENTS
DATE TIME DESCRIPTION DISPOSITION

04/05/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT
04/12/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO GRANTED

ACTIONS
DATE DESCRIPTION

03/17/1993 OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES
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« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2009, 09:44:38 PM »

if anyone reading has been married twice can you go check your records and see if it lists you with two records under two different names?
i have been married 3! times
the first i listed my maiden name, after the divorce, i went by my maiden name but still had the same last name as my ex.. (on the cert of hub # 2 i listed my ex last name ..i think, its been a while  )  hubby #2 i took his last name on my dl but didn't change on my ssc 'cause it didn't last long enough for me to get around to it (#1 i'm lazy, and yes, it lasted longer than a month LOL Monkey Devil!)  i had to get all of that straightened out when i got a job and my name didn't match up with my ss#.  i kept hub #2 name even when i married hub #3 'cause i finally got all my id fixed (i was stealing my own id)..i will eventually change it to #3 but until i have the time to get it all done at the same time, its gonna' wait.  it only took me years to fix it, i'm not gonna' mess with it anytime soon
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« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2009, 09:54:48 PM »

from the Trouble with the Law thread

this is the mother Marilyn Lawless/Gomes and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.
father and one brother are both named gary d lawless. 

CASE NUMBER:
FL35509
CASE TITLE:
LAWLESS VS. GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME RELATIONSHIP ATTORNEY NAME

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF PRO PER

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT N/A

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT N/A

EVENTS
DATE TIME DESCRIPTION DISPOSITION

04/05/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT
04/12/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO GRANTED

ACTIONS
DATE DESCRIPTION

03/17/1993 OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

huh?  then lawless could be gomes..   but WHO is short??
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« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2009, 10:22:02 PM »

Marylyn is the mother -- Tieken/Short/Lawless/Gomes

she and her little tribe went back and forth using Lawless or Gomes.

Here's a new thought, though not very good:  maybe old Gary D. Lawless married 2 women on the same day.  One is Marylyn Tieken and the other is Marilene Short.
 
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« Reply #84 on: June 24, 2009, 10:33:11 PM »

Marylyn is the mother -- Tieken/Short/Lawless/Gomes

she and her little tribe went back and forth using Lawless or Gomes.

Here's a new thought, though not very good:  maybe old Gary D. Lawless married 2 women on the same day.  One is Marylyn Tieken and the other is Marilene Short.
 
i wouldn't but it past this group, can we find any records or Marilene?  marriage cert?  death cert?  divorce?  tax records? 
on the other hand...how did he pull that one off??
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« Reply #85 on: June 24, 2009, 11:47:16 PM »

if anyone reading has been married twice can you go check your records and see if it lists you with two records under two different names?
i have been married 3! times
the first i listed my maiden name, after the divorce, i went by my maiden name but still had the same last name as my ex.. (on the cert of hub # 2 i listed my ex last name ..i think, its been a while  )  hubby #2 i took his last name on my dl but didn't change on my ssc 'cause it didn't last long enough for me to get around to it (#1 i'm lazy, and yes, it lasted longer than a month LOL Monkey Devil!)  i had to get all of that straightened out when i got a job and my name didn't match up with my ss#.  i kept hub #2 name even when i married hub #3 'cause i finally got all my id fixed (i was stealing my own id)..i will eventually change it to #3 but until i have the time to get it all done at the same time, its gonna' wait.  it only took me years to fix it, i'm not gonna' mess with it anytime soon

if you look at the records for your marriages and divorces, does it show more than one record for each marriage, one record for each last name?  I am just wondering if this is normal, or are they recording two marriages each time for marylin and gary and for marylin and manuel. 
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« Reply #86 on: June 24, 2009, 11:52:15 PM »

Marylyn is the mother -- Tieken/Short/Lawless/Gomes

she and her little tribe went back and forth using Lawless or Gomes.

Here's a new thought, though not very good:  maybe old Gary D. Lawless married 2 women on the same day.  One is Marylyn Tieken and the other is Marilene Short.
 
i wouldn't but it past this group, can we find any records or Marilene?  marriage cert?  death cert?  divorce?  tax records? 
on the other hand...how did he pull that one off??

find records on who?  who is marilene?  or is that a typo? 

there are lots of court docs on these people.  Marylin tieken lawless has an arrest record for assault or battery in butte county, I think she also has a RO against her in shata county, both complainnts are from her son gary duane lawless against her and her son jeffrey carl lawless. 

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« Reply #87 on: June 24, 2009, 11:59:52 PM »

In my state, you can get a license and leave.  Then you can come back and get the Justice of the Peace/Clerk of the Court to perform a civil ceremony or if you have a religous ceremony, the officiant signs it and returns it to the Clerk of the Court.  The license is valid for six months.  I could go, in theory, and obtain any number of licenses, although I am required to show identification.  However, I could go in and get a license without the other person being there.  So good old Gary could have gotten more than one license.  Then go and get married in two different places and who's to know.  It would take a very sharp person to realize they are different, because each license has a different number.  Get married by the JP and then turn around and get married by someone else who is qualified to sign it (and Lord knows they have enough "ministers" in the family, or just go to your favorite forger).  It's just a thought.  But the Short is really troublesome.
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« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2009, 12:37:51 AM »

trying to find the obit for this one

Social Security Death Index
about Manuel Gomes
Name: Manuel Gomes
SSN:xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: 95913  Artois, Glenn, California, United States of America
Born: 5 Jun 1929
Died: Aug 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

timothy was born in glenn county, marylin's mother died their.

this manuel gomes is born the right year to be the one she married.  If we can find an obit, maybe some familiar names will be in it

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« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2009, 12:47:18 AM »

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Manuel Gomes
Name: Manuel Gomes
Birth Date: 5 Jun 1929
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Santos 
Birth County: Contra Costa 
 
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« Reply #90 on: June 25, 2009, 02:56:52 AM »

so love found this
died
GOMES, Marylin E (TIEKEN)[LAWLESS]; 61; Chico CA; Chico E-R; 1998-12-9; bcr


and here is son jeffrey carl lawless
LAWLESS, Jeffrey Carl; 31; Chico CA; Chico E-R; 1999-3-11; bcr

Jeffrey died 3 months after his mother. 

chico is in butte county cali.
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timothy is in sac jail
and last we find brother gary duane lawless is in shasta county cali.

so where is the father gary d lawless and step father manuel gomes?
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« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2009, 12:13:01 AM »

It has taken almost 2 months to just find a page cited for a brief obit on Marylin and Jeff Gomes/lawless, I can only imagine how hard it will be to find the Gary lawless or Manuel Gomes. 2. I would really like to know why Marylin Gomes, the mother, and the son, Jeff Gomes, passed away?

I would also like to note in Butte county a sick indiviual by the name of William Buckley Gomes..

Case Information
Case Number:    SCM004423
Case Title:    PEOPLE vs. GOMES, WILLIAM B
Case Type:    SEXUAL OFFENSES
Filing Date:    06/07/94
Disposition Date:    06/30/94
   HTA; CERT TO SUP CT FOR TRIAL

Parties
Name    Type    Attorney
GOMES, WILLIAM BUCKLEY    DEFENDANT    FORLAND, DENNY
 In Custody? Y/N: N   Status:
Charges
Count    Filing Document    Degree    Charge    
01    COM    Felony    261(a)(2)    PC    FORCIBLE RAPE    
Plea:    NG
Plea Date:    06/30/94
Disposition:    06/30/94
HTA; BOUND OVER TO SUP CT   
Sentence:    
         
02    COM    Felony    288a(c)    PC    FORCIBLE ORAL COPULATION    
Plea:    NG
Plea Date:    06/30/94
Disposition:    06/30/94
HTA; BOUND OVER TO SUP CT   
Sentence:    
         
         
         
03    COM    Felony    288a(c)    PC    FORCILE ORAL COPULATION    
Plea:    NG[/color]
Plea Date:    06/30/94
Disposition:    06/30/94
HTA; BOUND OVER TO SUP CT   
Sentence:    
         
         
         
04    COM    Felony    289    PC    ANAL OR GENITAL PENETRATION FOREIGN OBJ    
      Plea:    NG
Disposition:    06/30/94
HTA; BOUND OVER TO SUP CT   
Sentence:       

Actions
Date    Action Description
07/06/94    TRANSFERRED TO SUPERIOR COURT -
HAND DELIVERED 070794 S/C

06/30/94    AMENDED COMPLAINT FILED

06/30/94    FELONY MINUTES - TO APPEAR IN SUP. CT. ON
7-13-94 AT 8:15 AM

06/13/94    BAIL BOND: MC MAINS BAIL BONDS
CS25-00041990 $15,000.00

06/07/94    FAX COMPLAINT FILED (CHICO)

06/07/94    COMPLAINT FILED BY DA.

Events
Date    Time    Event Description    Dept Code    Department/Judge
06/30/94    09:00    PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 06/30/94
HTA; BOUND OVER TO SUP CT

S2    SOUTH MUNI DEPT 2 (PRE-CONSOL)
06/23/94    09:00    PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 06/23/94
PX NOT HELD CONTINUED

S2    SOUTH MUNI DEPT 2 (PRE-CONSOL)
06/16/94    09:00    PRE-PX CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 06/16/94
PX DATE CONFIRMED
S1    SOUTH MUNI DEPT 1 (PRE-CONSOL)
06/09/94    09:00    FURTHER ARRAIGNMENT, ENTRY OF PLEA,
APPEARANCE OF COUNSEL

Disposition Date: 06/09/94
PX, PT DATE SET

S1    SOUTH MUNI DEPT 1 (PRE-CONSOL)
06/07/94    13:29    ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 06/07/94
ARRAIGNED; REF TO PUB DEF

   S1    SOUTH MUNI DEPT 1 (PRE-CONSOL)

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« Reply #92 on: June 26, 2009, 12:48:47 AM »

this is in chico, butte county cali.  (Battery charges)
youngest brother jeffrey carl lawless/gomes
has his case dismissed
6 days later his mother dies
3 months later he dies

Name Type Attorney
GOMES, JEFF CARL  DEFENDANT  VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH 
   In Custody? Y/N: N   Status: 
 AKA - ALSO KNOWN AS: LAWLESS, JEFF 
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 01 COM Misdemeanor (A) 242    PC BATTERY 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED
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« Reply #93 on: June 26, 2009, 12:54:06 AM »

look at all of these dismissals?
and what the heck they are still notifying dmv and also something about his payments in 2000 after he is dead?

why all of the dismissals? 

we also have to realize that we have NO CONFIRMED DEATH RECORDS FOR JEFFREY AND HIS MOTHER.  all we have is someone submitted to rootsweb obituaries that they are dead, anyone can just submit that.  if they died in chico there should be cali death records.  where are they?



Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL  DEFENDANT  VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH 
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 00  Misdemeanor (A) 1214.1(a)    PC CIVIL ASSESSMENTS 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00 CIT  ASF     ADMIN SCREENING FEE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4    PC RESTITUTION FINE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 01 CIT Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a)    CVC DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO 
  Sentence: 12/03/98
   SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT
   1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY
   PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL
 02 CIT Infraction (T) 16028)(a)    CVC NO INSURANCE 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 03 CIT Infraction (T) 21657    CVC ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 04 CIT Infraction (T) 14601.1(a)    CVC DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   


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02/14/00 NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
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01/13/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
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« Reply #94 on: June 26, 2009, 01:17:06 AM »

I agree about the records from roots web, what if someone just put them there?
Just like some of the geneology I have found..what if people are just making that up because people like me are searching for them??..LOL
Maybe they are extremely intelligent criminals who are covering their tracks even via internet? Just another "Jus Sayin"..LOL

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« Reply #95 on: June 26, 2009, 01:23:44 AM »

I agree about the records from roots web, what if someone just put them there?
Just like some of the geneology I have found..what if people are just making that up because people like me are searching for them??..LOL
Maybe they are extremely intelligent criminals who are covering their tracks even via internet? Just another "Jus Sayin"..LOL

And ohhhhhhhhh DD you are good!!!


I have also wondered if someone just went over there and submitted those LOL

also, I have noticed that someone changed their genealogy files in the last couple of weeks to blot out CLL and Melissa and her father brian.  now they are listed as unknown or LIVING person ad the names are gone.  weird.  LOL


also look at this.  timothy john lawless is driving in chico after his mother and brother have died over 2 years prior, so what is he doing over there?

Case Number: NT045853
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. GOMES, TIMOTHY JOHN 
Case Type: RULES OF THE ROAD VIOLATION
Filing Date: 01/05/00
Disposition Date: 06/05/00
 TVS COMPLETED

same year they are still notifying jeff's dmv and asking for his probation payments in court.  don't you think the court would know after over 2 years he is dead?
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« Reply #96 on: June 26, 2009, 01:26:10 AM »

think about it, he is dead for 2 years and his probation officer does not know?   Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #97 on: June 26, 2009, 01:47:23 AM »

think about it, he is dead for 2 years and his probation officer does not know?   Monkey Devil!

LOL..too funny...We need a good laugh for all the work we do..

On a serious note DD, from what you said about the info being changed and the things I have seen as well, someone is playing games with the records...there is someone, family or friend who is trying to cover all tracks, and who also knows there are people like us researching...Agree??
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« Reply #98 on: June 26, 2009, 01:49:03 AM »

So Hence DD, we can only rely on factual court records, newspaper articles etc...?
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« Reply #99 on: June 26, 2009, 02:34:26 AM »

So Hence DD, we can only rely on factual court records, newspaper articles etc...?

yes, we really need to confirm this stuff with documents or some kind of something we know is real.  anyone can doctor up things by submitting any info they make up, and I do think it is happening.  I see it happening in the famliy trees.  we can use anything as a "guide" to start looking, but we better get the records to confirm it. 
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