Current Affair interview with Joran 9/26/2005

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Reporter: I know you are a smart kid. We know you are an honor student. You are athletic. I am very glad I didn’t have to chase you because…

Joran van der Sloot: No, there is no use to start running or anything like that, since you guys are here anyway. But, I just wanted to say that I do feel bad for Natalee’s mother, if Natalee is really missing, if something bad happened to her.  But yeah, I just want to say that I don’t like the way people are going around with this case. I don’t like the media attention. And, I don’t like that people start boycotting Aruba, because Aruba is a beautiful island and I love it.  I lived there my whole life, and just makes me feel bad that so many people have to suffer now, because of one person missing.

Reporter: What was the last.. I know you had a little relationship with her a bit, right?. So, what would you... how would you describe her?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, when I talked to her she was very nice. And yeah, that is all I have to say.

Reporter: What were your feelings towards her?

Joran van der Sloot: I didn’t have any feelings towards her, because I met her that night. I didn’t know her before that.

Reporter:  Ok, because I think she talked to some people, and I think she said, you guys had been going out a little bit before.

Joran van der Sloot: No, we had not gone out before at all.

Reporter: So, can you help us understand ‘cause I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt, I mean you seem to be a guy who is smart and who knows what he is doing. So, can you understand why it seems you have not been forthcoming with the police?

Joran van der Sloot: I just hope that people leave me alone and I can live my life like a normal person. That is all I am hoping for. I know me and my friends lied. And I am really sorry for that. I feel horrible for that, I really do, but, I mean, I can’t take it back now.  It is too late for that. But, I just want everybody to know that I did not harm Natalee in any way. And yeah, I just hope she is fine, I hope she is ok. And, I hope sooner or later, her family finds her.

Reporter: But, why did you lie that first time?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I lied basically, because I was scared. And that is the truth.

Reporter:  Right, you lied because you were scared.

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, because I didn’t want to admit to leaving her alone at the beach.

Reporter:  And, what was going through your mind at that time?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, at that time, I don’t know.  I was there. She didn’t want to come back to the hotel. I had school the next day. I told her I had to leave. And she didn’t want to listen, so, basically, I thought, "Ok, then, if you want to stay here, then you stay here."  And that is the truth.

Reporter: And that is the last thing that happened?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, that is the last thing.

Reporter:  And, what was the last thing that she said to you?

Joran van der Sloot: She didn’t say any last thing to me. The last thing that I said to her is, "Bye."

Reporter: You said, "Bye?"

Joran van der Sloot: Yeah.

Reporter:  What about the other two guys? What did the kalpoe brothers…?

Joran van der Sloot: The other two guys dropped me off there, and from everything I know, they don’t know anything else. And I feel very sorry they got into this mess too. Because, somehow, I feel that it is my fault.

Reporter:  The things about the beach obviously, you are three big guys. Do you have a sister?

Joran van der Sloot: I do not have a sister.  I have two brothers.

Reporter:  You have two brothers. So you have little ones. And you are the big one?

Joran van der Sloot: I am the oldest.

Reporter: Ok, so the oldest one usually has to be the most responsible one.

Joran van der Sloot: Yes

Reporter: I am the oldest too. How did you feel? She is a young girl. You are from Aruba. You were already there. You are the guy that knows everything about Aruba.

Joran van der Sloot: Well, first of all, she was 18 and I was 17, at the time. I know that does not say much. Because, I feel older. But, at the time, it didn’t seem like a bad thing. I mean, it didn’t seem bad. Now, I regret it, of course. I will probably regret it for the rest of my life. But, there is nothing I can do about it now. I can’t change time. I just want to go on with my life and I hope people let me go on with my life.

Reporter:  I think they will, but I think the problem is, you have to understand, you are... you don’t have a child yet, but the mother, I mean, the Beth Holloway.

Joran van der Sloot: I do understand completely for her, and I feel horrible for her, but, what I don’t respect is her going on TV and boycotting Aruba.  It makes no sense.

Reporter: But, she is going through so much personal pain. I mean the thing is, the problem is, she doesn't know what happened to her daughter.

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, and neither do I.  So, what more do you want me to do? I told the truth. I know she knows the truth. And, I know she read most of the statements in the case and, yes, that is all.

Reporter:  What is your theory of the case?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t have a theory, because I am not going to speculate what other people are doing, because all that people are doing is speculating. No one knows anything. For what everybody knows, she is a missing person. And I hope to God she is alive and I hope to God they find her.

Reporter: You are going to be doing something.

Joran van der Sloot: No, I don’t blame her at all for what she is doing. I don’t blame her at all. But, during the period I was in jail, I wanted to talk to her, I was willing to talk to her. My lawyer told me it wasn't the best thing to do, because she can say, I told her anything. And yeah, so, I didn’t talk to her. And now, I don’t feel like talking to her at all, because look at what she is doing to a beautiful island with a hundred thousand people on it that rely on tourism and she's boycotting an island that can have consequences for one hundred thousand people. Which, for me, it makes no sense at all.

Reporter:  What are your plans now? What are you trying to do?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I am studying business at the school here. Right now, I have to be getting to class, but, and I just plan to, at least, finish my first year and see how it goes.

Reporter: Do you have a girlfriend here?

Joran van der Sloot: No, I do not have girlfriend here.

Reporter:  What are you planning to do with your life?

Joran van der Sloot:  I plan to continue my life normally. I want to study sports management in the States. Obviously, that is not a good option now, the States. This case has been so blown up in the States, it is ridiculous. And, I just hope I can go on with my life. Let's see how things go. Hope the case gets solved. And, if it gets solved, then everything will be fine. I can go on with my life. I can even go continue my study in the States.  I can do anything I want.

Reporter:  Are you afraid?  I mean, some people in the States are pretty upset with you, because they feel you are concealing something and a girl is missing.

Joran van der Sloot: I am not afraid. Afraid is a bad statement to use.  I just don’t.... I understand (hearing) from people, "You lied, you must be hiding something."  But, I am not hiding anything, but, I know only time will tell that.  Then the truth will come out.

Reporter:  And, I mean, what are, is, your worst nightmare in this situation?

Joran van der Sloot: My worst nightmare is, of course, is, if something bad happened to Natalee, everyone might think that I did it, maybe Deepak or Satish did it, and I feel that is what scares me a lot.  That is the only thing that I am scared about.

Reporter: But, I mean the thing is for me... imagine you are involved in this completely, so, I mean, obviously it is very difficult for you to try and be objective. But, imagine seeing it from another person's perspective.

Joran van der Sloot: Oh, I have tried to see it from another person's perspective a hundred thousand times.  I have tried to see it from an American point of view. I tried to see it from Natalee’s parents' point of view. I understand it for them. I really do.  What they are doing, but it makes no sense to boycott an island that relies on tourism.

Reporter:  I mean, I know you were 17 and she was 18, but she is a girl and you are a guy. The three big guys get into a car with a girl from high school and she disappears. She is never seen again. Obviously, people are going to be pointing their finger at you.

Joran van der Sloot: And, I don’t blame them. I don’t blame them.

Reporter:  So, I mean what do you say to that?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t have anything to say to the people. I am just happy that so many people have supported me through this. I have not lost a single friend. I have also got so many support from so many Americans, which I didn’t expect. I am still getting letters, every week, from people that support me. And I am happy that there are a lot of good people in the world that do believe in me and that nothing bad happened.  (Motorcycle noise)

Reporter: What do you feel in your heart?

Joran van der Sloot: In my heart, I feel bad, of course, because myself, I don’t know what happened and that bothers me a lot. And I just hope that everything comes out and I can have rest, too. I can sleep better at night also.

Reporter: So are you afraid of going back to prison?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I mean, the three months I was in there, it was hard. It wasn’t fun at all, of course. But, I mean, I tried to make the best of it. I always kept my head up and I knew that I was innocent, so I knew that they would have to let me go. The other thing I don't respect, at all, is how people criticize my dad. The real thing is, because no one can make sense of the situation, they start pointing fingers all around and all of the evidence shows that nothing bad happened. There is not one tiny bit of evidence that points to us.  They even tested my DNA and Satish and Deepak’s DNA, against the judge's orders, and they even found out that it wasn’t our DNA that was on Natalee’s toothbrush and I would like to know who’s DNA that was. I’d for them to maybe look at the kids that were in her group. The kids that came with her. I think that it is important not to have tunnel vision and not to point fingers at one person. But, to take the case and look in other directions.

Reporter: Now, for this grieving mother, all of America is going to watch this, because you are talking frankly for one of the first times…

Joran van der Sloot:  Yeah, I don’t want to be talking right now, but it doesn't have much use to run away from you guys. And …

Reporter:  What do you have to say, because a lot of people are going to be listening to what you have to say. They are going to try to understand what you have to say to her mother.

Joran van der Sloot: That is the point no one understands. No one understands and I am just happy my family supported me through this. My friends supported me through this. And, I still have so many people that love me.

Reporter: What do you have to say to Beth Holloway?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t have anything to say to Beth, not one thing at all.

Reporter:  What are your memories of Natalee like?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t really have that many memories.  I mean, I knew her for one night. I feel stupid…I feel horrible that I even went out that night without my father knowing. I should've just stayed home and this would not have happened to me. It would've happened to another person. I try to look at it, that I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe even with the wrong people. And I just hope that the truth comes out. That this comes to some clarity in this case.

Reporter: But do you understand I mean how can a girl just disappear?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t know. I think that is the million dollar question now.

Reporter: I mean what happened that night? Why don’t you tell me what happened, just a little bit?

Joran van der Sloot: First of all, it is none of your business what happened. That is an investigation, which is still going on. And I just again, I am saying, I hope she is okay. I hope she is fine. And, I hope her parents find her.

Reporter: What happened down at the beach?

Joran van der Sloot:  That is none of your business. That is part of the investigation.

Reporter: Ok. Have you had other girlfriends before?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, I have had other girlfriends before.

Reporter: And were you seeing anybody when you were with her?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, I was seeing someone when I was with her.

Reporter:  So was that…were you cheating on this other person with her?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, I cheated on this other person with her.

Reporter: So, what happened as a result of that?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, obviously, she still supported me and we are still friends. And she came to visit me and she is a very nice person. I just…,of course, we broke up, of course, it….cause what I did was wrong.

Reporter: You mean, because you cheated with Natalee?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes.

Reporter: And, because you got into a lot of trouble?

Joran van der Sloot:  And I got into a lot of trouble.

Reporter: If you can could do it over again what would you do?

Joran van der Sloot: I would've just stayed home that night. I would not even had gone out. It was Natalee, who asked me to go out with her. It was her that asked me to come to the club. It was her that was yelling at me to go dance with her. And I said…and I went to go drink something with my friends. It was her that wanted to come with us. I mean ,I don’t understand it myself. I don’t…yeah. (motorcycle noise)

Reporter: I mean, are you that irresistible? Is that is…

Joran van der Sloot: No, I don’t know. That is absolutely not what it is about. I don’t know. When her parents showed up at my door with her picture I didn’t even know who Natalee Holloway was. I didn’t even know her name.

Reporter: How can you not know her name, if you saw her the night before?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I saw her the night before, but it was not like I had a conversation with her for 3 hours. I mean we barely talked. She told me a couple of things about herself, where she was going to school. Where she was from. She told me a couple of things about her family that I thought was really strange. And that was about it. (Motorcycle noise)

Reporter: What did she tell you? That you can remember.

Joran van der Sloot: She told me a lot of things. One thing she told me was that her mother was Hitler’s sister's daughter. I don’t know what she was talking, a lot of strange things. She told me she wanted to go to the light house and see sharks, which we never went to. But, I don’t know, she talked a lot of things. Obviously, she was drunk. I had stuff to drink too. Now, I don’t respect that the Aruban authority tried to pin that it was a rape case. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual. I had something to drink. She had something to drink. And, I just don’t think it is fair that people…that they even held me three months, because, the fact is, that in the United States they would not even...  they never would've even been allowed to arrest me. The Dutch system works in the way that, if…you can be arrested on suspicion. (Motorcycle noise) In the United States, you need hard evidence. There is not one evidence in this case that shows something bad happened. I have never touched a girl in an aggressive way in my life. There is not one girl that went forward and said otherwise. And, I only have good declarations in my name, so.

Reporter: But, I mean, I know you have don’t have a record, and I know that a lot of what you are saying appears to be true, but, I mean, essentially I see as if you are saying like you didn’t have anything to do with it. "She wanted to be with me she wanted to come out with us…"

Joran van der Sloot: That is truth.

Reporter: It is all her.

Joran van der Sloot: I am not saying its all her…I liked her. I thought she was very attractive and I went out with her. And that is how it went. We even stopped on our way outside of Carlos and Charlies... we stopped. She said that one of her friends yelled to her to get out of the car. She wanted to stay in the car. Deepak even stopped and allowed her if she wanted to get out. She said "No." And she stayed with us in the car. It was totally her choice.

Reporter:  Right, but you guys are gentlemen. You don’t have a record…

Joran van der Sloot: No, we don’t have any police record.

Reporter: They (the Kalpoes) don’t have any record, either. So, I mean, how again can I ask you the same thing. You seem to be…I know you are a bright young guy, I know you are an older brother to somebody else, right? You explained that to me. How do you leave a girl on the beach?

Joran van der Sloot: Very irresponsible, I know, and that is the one thing I would like to take back. But, at the time, it just did not seem wrong.

Reporter: And the other thing is that is a little strange. There is nothing left. I mean, also her… there is no evidence. There is no body.

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t know what happened. I don’t know where she is. And…

Reporter:  Where do you think she is?

Joran van der Sloot: I told you, I am not going to speculate what.  That is all other people have been doing is speculating and there has been so much bullshit that people have have talked on TV, and people have come forward and said things that make no sense and things that… It is just sad what some people do.

Reporter:  But, I mean you are from the island. You are not some guy who is a tourist, who does not know what is going on. So when I asked you what happened to her, I am not asking some guy that does not know anything. I  am asking some guy that is from Aruba.

Joran van der Sloot: That is why, in the beginning, I thought she ran away with someone on the island. She ran away with a beach bum. I don’t know. Someone on the island that she might have met before. That was my first reaction.  And yeah, and afterwards, that is what we talked about to the police, and the police even agreed with me, and I just feel bad.  I really don’t know.

Reporter:  So, what else can you say to try and tell Americans about your positions, about what you are doing and your feelings towards this whole thing?

Joran van der Sloot: I think it is sad. I really think it is absolutely sad. Sad, in a sense that I feel bad for Natalee’s parents, and sad in a sense about what people are doing and are treating this case, talking about cover ups and scandals. The other day, I saw something on the news that said that me and my dad had a credit line in the casino. People talk about things that make absolutely no sense. And it is really sad.

Reporter:  Anything you want to ask? What about…

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t know, that is probably all speculations too. I heard stories that she was in Venezuela, sold into slavery or sex slavery. I don’t know. People are just trying to make up stories to find out what happened. And it is all sad.

Reporter: But, you are the last guy that was with her. I mean, there is….

Joran van der Sloot: I was the last guy who admitted to being with her, but ok.

Reporter: Ok, the last guy that was seen with her. I am going to put it to you that way. You guys were the last guys with her. If you guys had been a little bit more forthcoming… You are talking to me like you are kind of like a victim, in a way.

Joran van der Sloot: No, I am not a victim at all. I am not a victim at all. I said, I think it is sad, what the press is doing. But, I am not a victim at all. I know what I did was wrong, and for lying, I probably deserve to be in that jail for three months. But, I did not do anything against the law and they have to let you go. They have to let me get on with my life. And, I hope you guys let me get on with my life too.

Reporter:  Well, I think if you can explain to people what really happened, and you were really forthcoming, the more forthcoming you are, the more chance there will be for you to get on with your life.

Joran van der Sloot: One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.

Reporter: Right. (phone rings) can you just explain to me any other thoughts?  What about her… what was she like with you that night in a romantic way, I mean, how can you describe what she was like as a girl?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t really know what to say, she was very nice. She was kind, and I feel horrible, because she asked me to stay with her there and look at the stars, and I told her, I had to go to school, I had to go home, and I feel horrible about that.

Reporter: So, what happened? You guys just got into the car and left then?

Joran van der Sloot: I just went home, yes.

Reporter: You left.  And then, a girl was just standing there on the beach. I mean, what is the deal?

Joran van der Sloot: Yeah, basically.

Reporter: How drunk was she?

Joran van der Sloot: She had a lot to drink. At Carlos and Charlies, she grabbed my hand for me to take jelly shots off of her. And afterwards, she asked me to buy a shot for her, buy her something to drink, which I did. And, that is all I saw that she drank. I didn’t see her drink anything else.  But from the day…earlier, when I was with her friends at the Excelsior Casino at the Holiday Inn, the whole group was already drinking from five in the afternoon. And I didn’t really see her at that moment. I didn’t really notice her at that moment. But, I guess they came here to have a good time and to celebrate. And to throw their graduation also. And they might have all gone a little too far.

Reporter: What do you mean jelly shots with her. Off of her body?

Joran van der Sloot: Yeah.

Reporter: How does that work?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t know. I never did it myself before. She grabbed my hand and took me with her and asked me if I wanted to take jelly shots off of her.

Reporter: How does it work?

Joran van der Sloot: And she climbed on the bar. She laid down on the bar and she called over the bartender by name and he got a jelly shot for her and I took a jelly shot off of her.

Reporter: I don’t understand. Is it on her belly?

Joran van der Sloot: On her belly, yes.

Reporter: On her belly button?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes.

Reporter: And then, what do you do?

Joran van der Sloot: And then, you basically lick it off.

Reporter: How attractive did you think she was?

Joran van der Sloot: I thought that she was attractive.

Reporter: What kind of feelings did you have for her?

Joran van der Sloot: I didn’t have any feelings for her, because I did not know her at all. I just…the feelings that I had for her were because she was attractive.

Reporter: So you were hot for her?

Joran van der Sloot: I wouldn’t say that. I just thought she was attractive. I thought she was very outgoing, and that she came to me. She was the one that talked to me. She asked for me to dance with her, which I didn't even do. And she wanted to come with us. And, it was probably a bad choice. We probably should have told her she had to get out of the car when her friend told her she had to get out of the car and then nothing would've happened.

Reporter: What about the two brothers. Are they friends of yours?

Joran van der Sloot: Deepak and Satish, they were probably two of my best friends. Right now, at this moment, I am not even talking to them anymore. We are not friends anymore, because all of this happened. And...

Reporter: Why is that?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, because, obviously, all of us lied. We agreed to lie. I was the first one that changed my story.  I don’t think they liked that, so they changed their story. And it, eventually everything went towards the truth. But, obviously, bad things were said about each other. And, it just hurts me that our friendship had to break up because of that.

Reporter:  Are you covering for them?

Joran van der Sloot: I am not covering for them at all. And, I would not cover for them in such a big case with so many people got involved. My dad got arrested, which is absolutely ridiculous.  I feel horrible, too, for Steve in Aruba, the DJ from Tattoo, because all he was trying to do was really help Deepak, like, providing us an alibi. I feel bad for him that he got arrested. I also think that it is ridiculous that my best friend, Freddy Sudam (sp?) got arrested. I think it is for taking a picture of a girl in a bikini. It is really sad.

Reporter:  Do you have any other thoughts in terms of what Americans…again, people still think you are hiding a lot. I mean, even right now, I am asking you to tell me what happened and you are not really…

Joran van der Sloot: People can think all they want. That really does not bother me. I am just happy that there are people that do use their head and do believe in me.

Reporter:  When you left her that night and what kind of expression did she have on her face?

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t know. I really don’t know what kind of expression she had on her face. I don’t even know what you mean with the question.

Reporter: What I mean is, you left her, right? Was she standing?  Was she lying on the beach? What? When you left her?

Joran van der Sloot: When she came with me she was sitting at the beach.

Reporter:  When you said you had to study. You had to go back go to school.

Joran van der Sloot: I had school the next day. And I did go to school the next day. And I did go to school the day after. And it's just I had to go home, I had to go to sleep. Yeah, when I got home, I went on the internet. I talked to Deepak for a while. So, the police could see exactly what time I got home. They can see it's obvious, if someone were to read the thing, it is almost impossible that a crime was committed.

Reporter: But, when you left her on the beach, she was sitting on the sand?

Joran van der Sloot: Yeah

Reporter: Which way was she facing? Was she facing towards the ocean?

Joran van der Sloot: She was facing towards the ocean. And before that, I had been laying with her at the beach. And she was facing towards the ocean when I left her.

Reporter: You were laying on the beach like how? Cuddling on the beach?

Joran van der Sloot: Yeah, cuddling.

Reporter: And then what happened?  You said I have got to go home, because I have to get up for class tomorrow?

Joran van der Sloot: Uh... I told her I had to go home. I had school the next day, and I thought, maybe she'd understand. She told me, "No,." she wanted me to stay there with her. Because, the next day she was leaving. She wanted to stay there the whole night. I told her, "No," I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to her hotel. And she told me, put her down.I left her there.  I sat down and I started talking to her for a while. And I called Deepak, to ask him if he could come and pick me up, which Deepak didn’t do. but…

Reporter: was she angry?

Joran van der Sloot: She wasn't ... she wasn't angry. If anything she was probably more.. I don't know... upset that I was leaving her there. And, I don't know what reaction she had. I don't know

Reporter:  How did you feel when you left her?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, at the time, I didn’t...  I didn't feel it was a bad idea. At the time, I really didn’t. It didn’t seem wrong. It didn't seem... Of course, now I look back at it and I think, "Damn, I was... I'm an asshole.  What did I do?"  But, there is nothing I can do now. If I could have the moment back, I would make sure that she got back to her hotel safely. But, I can't change that now.

Reporter:  Ok. What is the worst thing you think you have done since this all started?

Joran van der Sloot: The worst thing I did was leaving her there at the beach. That is the worst thing, possible thing, I could've done and then lie about it to try and make myself not look bad I guess.

Reporter: And why did you do that?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I didn’t really think something bad happened to her and I don’t think anyone in Aruba did. It is the truth. Tourists come to Aruba to have a good time and sometimes they don’t show up for a night or two and then they come back to their hotel. I thought that was the case. The local police thought that probably also thought that was the case. And, I just always hoped that she would just show up. And that is, yeah.

Reporter: What went through your mind when she didn’t show up?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, when she didn’t show up for the first couple of days, I was like, "Ok, but, you know, maybe, she's still with someone else."  Then, after a while, cause there was 7 days, in between, when we gave our first witness statement and we were arrested, and I was just thinking I  thought about going to the police and telling them the truth. But, I really couldn't, because I'd lied to everybody. I lied to my parents, I lied to my friends and (shrugs).

Reporter: So, you are saying that lying was your worst crime?

Joran van der Sloot: Yeah.

Reporter: Now, lying is a crime isn’t it?  When you interfere with a police investigation?

Joran van der Sloot: Lying.. I don’t think lying is a crime. Lying is probably not ethical, but it is not a crime.

Reporter:  If you interfere with a police investigation?

Joran van der Sloot:  If you interfere with a police investigation it is still not a crime.

Reporter: Maybe here in Holland? You are saying you admit that you are a liar that night. You admit that you lied and and I think…. some people say that, I mean, you are admitting that you are lying, but you are doing a lot more than that. you have done worse things than that.

Joran van der Sloot: And, I would like for someone to come up and tell me if there is anything worse I did, because, I have never touched a girl in an aggressive way in my life. Never, and there is no one that can come forward and say otherwise. And yeah, I just feel bad for everything that happened. I feel bad for Natalee’s family. I feel bad for my family. I feel bad for Deepak and Satish’s family. And I feel bad for everyone that has suffered because of all of this.

Reporter:  Since you are coming forward now to some degree, did you have sex with her that night?

Joran van der Sloot: First of all, that is none of your business.

Reporter:  It is just a question.

Joran van der Sloot: But, it is absolutely none of your business.

Reporter:  Did anything else happened that night?

Joran van der Sloot: No. Well, yes, I kissed with her. but, neither did Deepak or Satish ever had sex with her and no one ever said otherwise. I saw a tape from Deepak on TV saying something, which makes absolutely no sense. I think that tape was edited. I think people cut and pasted these pieces. I am sure about that, cause it didn’t even sound like Deepak’s voice. But, not me, not Deepak or Satish had sex with her and that is in all the documents. And none of us had ever said anything like that. and yeah I just think it is sad how Natalee’s mom comes forward and starts saying things against us that don’t make sense and are not true.

Reporter: I mean you seem to be fairly concerned about this, but I am just wondering the emotions. What people’s impression is going to be of you, in terms of….

Joran van der Sloot: Well, that is what I think it maybe one of the good points about me; I really don’t care what people think about me.

Reporter: But, you don’t want to give people the impression that you are calloused.

Joran van der Sloot: I don’t want to give the impression that I am…

Reporter:   You are not a father.

Joran van der Sloot: I know, and I understand that, for her father. And I understand from my father and I just feel bad because of everything that happened. And, I don’t want people to think that I am a person without feelings, person without anything, because I did suffer a lot because of this. I cried, I don’t know how many times in my cell. I just felt horrible, but I want to go on with my life and there is nothing I can do about it now.

Reporter: And what was it like in your cell?

Joran van der Sloot: In my cell it was, I was with two other people in my cell. The people were very nice. The guards were very nice. And I was treated well there.

Reporter:  And what kind of things did you do in the cell?

Joran van der Sloot: We didn’t do much. I read a lot of books. I studied for school. There is a lot of things. We played soccer there. Yeah. I tried to keep myself busy and not think too much. But, of course, they interrogated me sometimes morning to night. And it just... yeah.

Reporter: What were the interrogations like?

Joran van der Sloot: The interrogation, of course, were horrible, because they put stuff in your head. I think if you have a weak person in the interrogation room, I think, even if they are innocent, I think they will admit to doing a crime just to be let alone. Just to leave them alone. Just to get something to eat. To get something to drink. The Aruban interrogators might have been a little kinder than the Dutch interrogators. Because, they really try to make you look guilty, even if you are not guilty or not.

Reporter:  Can you describe a little bit what it is like in an interrogation room?

Joran van der Sloot: You basically sit in a room in a chair with two cameras pointing on you. Since the last month, I did not talk to the interrogators, I just sat there and looked at them and they basically just kept asking me questions, making up stories referring to other documents.

Reporter:  And how long did this go on for?

Joran van der Sloot: What do you mean?

Reporter: The interrogation?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, in the beginning, the interrogation could've gone from 8 in the morning to 11 at night. But, at the end, they slowly became, less and less,  because they did not have more things to ask. And, I don’t think there is anything else to ask here. I haven’t been interrogated yet here in Holland. No one has come to investigate me and I know it is because there is nothing else to ask. Every question I have answered.

Reporter: Are you still a suspect?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, I am still as suspect.  It is just that my detention even got prolonged with 30 days.  It is just there is not evidence to hold me any longer in a jail cell and it makes no use since I can continue my study and they can just here in Holland they can interrogate me whenever they want.  There was an appeal by actually the attorney general there to try and hold me back and the higher court, which is three judges from Curacao, they even decided that I can travel anywhere in the world that I want. I can do anything I want. But, I remain a suspect, and in 30 days my lawyers will have to go to court in Aruba and see what happens again.

Reporter: So, you are still a suspect?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, I am still as suspect.

Reporter:  How does it feel to be a suspect?

Joran van der Sloot: It does not feel good, of course, and I hope that when the 30 days passes, I am not a suspect anymore, but I am here.  I feel a lot more free, I can just study and work on my school.  Soon, I am going to go tonight to be at my house. I have to learn to be alone. And, I think it is very important for me to think about my study and make sure that I do good in school.

Reporter: You seem like a composed young man, but the issue I am going to ask you this again, you seem a bit cold.  You seem like you don’t have much emotion when it comes to her.  Are you being reserved and not showing it, or do you really not feel that much about…

Joran van der Sloot: Well, of course, I am trying to be reserved, but and, of course, I feel. I would never called myself cold ,but it's just I do feel a lot for her. I just try not to think about it as much as I can. I try to just go on with my life.

Reporter: If you felt a lot for her, wouldn’t you be more forthcoming with her mother?

Joran van der Sloot:  Well, I didn’t know her that long. And, I didn’t like how her mother treated my family, treated my dad and treated other Aruban people. I don’t respect that at all.

Reporter: I do think that in terms of suffering, that the suffering that you experienced in jail and all of that could not even remotely come close to anything the mother would be experiencing in terms of missing a daughter.

Joran van der Sloot: No, I mean I can’t say I understand for her, cause I can’t, cause I don’t have a daughter and my daughter is not missing. But, I do know, she must be going through a lot of pain. But, again it does not make sense to make other people suffer, because she is suffering and that is what I feel like she is doing, but that is about enough.  If you guys want to talk we can talk a different time.

Reporter: Do you have a nickname for her at all?

Joran van der Sloot: No.

Reporter:  Thank you very much.  Can we just get shots of you walking here?

(Joran walks away. He talks to his father, standing nearby.)