MICHAEL JACKSON 1958 - 2009

[no rose colored glasses]

They found him!

The father of Michael Jackson's children Prince and Paris is none other than Jackson's L.A.-based dermatologist and Rowe's former boss, Arnold Klein.

"He is the dad," one of many sources tells Us Weekly. "He and Debbie signed an agreement saying they would never reveal the truth."

Rowe also claimed that she carried his children as a personal favor, "I said, 'Let me do this. You need to be a dad. You have been so good to me.'"

Rowe and Jackson met when she was a nurse's assistant in the 80's.
(No Katherine and Joe Jackson don't live together. Joe lives in Vegas, Katherine in Encino.)

Rosie...was this on TMZ? I would like to see a picture of this guy...maybe I will google it...

I didn't see a pic of him, this is going to be in the upcoming Us Weekly magazine.

[Cappuccino]

What a flippin mess!   This is too muckin fuch for words.   If this is the case then the only thing binding is the fact in California if you have custody of children for more than two years as a "presumed parent" then you are assumed that parent.   

This seems like another stunt by Debbie Rowe so she has standing in claiming the children not because she gives a hoot but she can get mo' money.  I mean how convenient Debbie & Michael agree not to reveal by contract who the bio dad donor is but here we are announcing who he is, if indeed this even factual.   So who broke the agreement, hmmm.    Im holding out to see legal filings and DNA.

I'm left with just this to say, those poor children do not deserve any of this & Michael would just die if he didnt die already seeing what is going on now.   I cannot fathom that a man who had been sued & prosecuted for a multitude of different things would have not made sure his parentage was secured whether it be biological or adoption, he couldn't have been that naive, no?  Maybe.    I'm really beginning to wonder just how many previous allegations were ever true seeing the scum crawling out of the woodwork upon his death but obviously had previously plotted ways to extort money out of his fortune both in life and in death.   I am in no way not recognizing he was odd & could be guilty of some accusations but doesn't all of this make you wonder considering the leeches and slugs that wormed their way in to his life.   These type of people know what type of individuals are susceptible to being taken advantage of whether it be of challenged intelligence and/or broken spirit.   The entire saga is quite a bit to wrap one's head around it.

Funeral plans begin to unfold:

Jackson's Body to Return to Neverland
Posted Jun 30th 2009 12:20PM by TMZ Staff
http://www.tmz.com/
We've just learned Michael Jackson's body is set to be driven to Neverland Ranch late Thursday morning.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ upwards of a 30 car motorcade -- including Jackson's body -- will be traveling from Los Angeles to Neverland at 10 AM on Thursday.

We're told law enforcement is currently meeting to discuss security and traffic control.  Our sources say plans are in the works for a public viewing to take place on either Friday or Saturday.


I havent been to other threads or this one much today & I will be stopping in when I can but Im running around doing last minute things because tomorrow begins my glorious summer break from college visit with my daughter.

[Kat_Gram]

Well if anyone steps up to the plate to be the Daddy or the Mommy, then they should have to pay back child support in the style to which those kids lived. 
Debbie had those kids. She was married to MJ at the time. So unless someone comes up with some DNA etc and can prove who the Daddy is, MJ is the Daddy and Debbie is the Mommy.
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Or, they could just hold this up in court forever. Or until the kids are over 25 or so. 
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There must have been some agreements $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[Cappuccino]

As Im thinking about this, there were at least two custody hearings involving Debbie Rowe previously.   Wouldn't one think that parentage was determined then - the question is what was sealed because she settled out of court to a reported couple of million & a home in Beverly Hills.   O boi!

[no rose colored glasses]

We're told law enforcement is currently meeting to discuss security and traffic control. Our sources say plans are in the works for a public viewing to take place on either Friday or Saturday.
(A public viewing either Friday or Saturday the 4th of July, who is paying for all this nonsense, oh let me guess us tax payers of California. It better not be Sat, we usually go to Venice Beach/boardwalk in Santa Monica for the 4th. I'm just fuming right now. I can just imagine the traffic  )

[Cappuccino]

HMMMM...so it gets more interesting!

Cops Interested in Another Michael Jackson Doc Posted Jun 30th 2009 1:38PM by TMZ Staff

We've learned the LAPD wants to talk to Michael Jackson's longtime dermatologist Arnold Klein about drugs he may have prescribed or given Michael Jackson.

We're told Klein has already gotten a lawyer but as far as we know the LAPD has not spoken with him.

Michael Jackson was seen repeatedly going in and out of Dr. Klein's Beverly Hills office in months before he died.

Newly alleged "Baby daddy" pushin drugs to MJ    This makes 3 doctors so far  Tohme, Murry & now Klein.   A cardiologist does not prescribe or give demorol, Tohme is not an MD & now this dude, Klein is a dermatologist and what the heck would a dermatologist normally prescribe a patient...hmmm

Yup, "Death by entourage" collectively or with different self-motivations.   That being said, MJ has to be made responsible as well for letting it happen whether he was a hott mess, taken advantage of, abused, whatever but that doesnt mean others should not be held accountable for what they did.

[Cappuccino]

We're told law enforcement is currently meeting to discuss security and traffic control. Our sources say plans are in the works for a public viewing to take place on either Friday or Saturday.
(A public viewing either Friday or Saturday the 4th of July, who is paying for all this nonsense, oh let me guess us tax payers of California. It better not be Sat, we usually go to Venice Beach/boardwalk in Santa Monica for the 4th. I'm just fuming right now. I can just imagine the traffic  )

Foxnews cable is stating that there are meeting going on right now about arrangements.   I doubt sincerely that they will encourage the actual funeral on the 4th due to holiday traveling, I could be wrong.

[trimmonthelake]

I don't even know what to say...wow.What a mess. 

[trimmonthelake]

HMMMM...so it gets more interesting!

Cops Interested in Another Michael Jackson Doc Posted Jun 30th 2009 1:38PM by TMZ Staff

We've learned the LAPD wants to talk to Michael Jackson's longtime dermatologist Arnold Klein about drugs he may have prescribed or given Michael Jackson.

We're told Klein has already gotten a lawyer but as far as we know the LAPD has not spoken with him.

Michael Jackson was seen repeatedly going in and out of Dr. Klein's Beverly Hills office in months before he died.

Newly alleged "Baby daddy" pushin drugs to MJ    This makes 3 doctors so far  Tohme, Murry & now Klein.   A cardiologist does not prescribe or give demorol, Tohme is not an MD & now this dude, Klein is a dermatologist and what the heck would a dermatologist normally prescribe a patient...hmmm

Yup, "Death by entourage" collectively or with different self-motivations.   That being said, MJ has to be made responsible as well for letting it happen whether he was a hott mess, taken advantage of, abused, whatever but that doesnt mean others should not be held accountable for what they did.

I agree Cappy.Little something in it for all of them.When you sit back and look at the whole picture,I don't really put anything past any of this bunch.   

[Cappuccino]

I don't even know what to say...wow.What a mess. 

Beyond mind boggling, ey?

[no rose colored glasses]

And I'll bet there will be more doctors involved also. LAPD took out two fairly large bags yesterday.

[no rose colored glasses]

Cops Target Needles in Jackson Search
Posted Jun 30th 2009 1:45PM by TMZ Staff

We now know what the LAPD was after when it got a search warrant for Michael Jackson's home.

The warrant was specifically targeted to find controlled substances and paraphernalia -- in particular needles.

[Cappuccino]

Cops Target Needles in Jackson Search
Posted Jun 30th 2009 1:45PM by TMZ Staff

We now know what the LAPD was after when it got a search warrant for Michael Jackson's home.

The warrant was specifically targeted to find controlled substances and paraphernalia -- in particular needles.

LOL you must have check the same time I did...DAM it looks like criminal charges could very well be possible with several individuals.

I would be remiss if I didnt mention that today marks our troops pulling out of Iraq minus what is said will be training for Iraqi soldiers still in place.  I always have them in my prayers, as an Army mom I just wanted to express somewhere in the forum that I thank them all for their service.   God bless our troops![/color]

[trimmonthelake]

Cops Target Needles in Jackson Search
Posted Jun 30th 2009 1:45PM by TMZ Staff

We now know what the LAPD was after when it got a search warrant for Michael Jackson's home.

The warrant was specifically targeted to find controlled substances and paraphernalia -- in particular needles.

LOL you must have check the same time I did...DAM it looks like criminal charges could very well be possible with several individuals.

I would be remiss if I didnt mention that today marks our troops pulling out of Iraq minus what is said will be training for Iraqi soldiers still in place.  I always have them in my prayers, as an Army mom I just wanted to express somewhere in the forum that I thank them all for their service.   God bless our troops![/color]

Ah Cappy,I'm with ya on that one.and tomorrow is a big day for you too. 
You're gonna have a great time.
Thanks for all the updates. 

[Kat_Gram]

A skin doctor would / could prescribe for lupus. Also for the skin disease he had, can't spell the damn thing. If he had lupus, that would 'splain one of the lawyers saying that MJ was in pain every time he saw him. Lupus is an auto immune disease that could any part of your body. I like the way Dr. Deepak Chopra explained it. Your cells start attacking not just the enemy cells, but all of your good cells too. The attacker cells don't know who is a friend or a foe. Sort of like people,eh ?
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Oh the tales that are going to be spun will keep the NE, TMZ and such in business for years.
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After all of the recent revelations I would not be surprised if the drugs were not at a toxic level. I am just saying this because of what Deepak said. If MJ was having injections for anything frequently, he might have been doing it intravenously.
He could have even had a line in.
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When would they call a coroner's inquest ? Do they have those things in SoCal ?   

[Cappuccino]

Tks Trimm!   Im flippin!!

[Cappuccino]

A skin doctor would / could prescribe for lupus. Also for the skin disease he had, can't spell the damn thing. If he had lupus, that would 'splain one of the lawyers saying that MJ was in pain every time he saw him. Lupus is an auto immune disease that could any part of your body. I like the way Dr. Deepak Chopra explained it. Your cells start attacking not just the enemy cells, but all of your good cells too. The attacker cells don't know who is a friend or a foe. Sort of like people,eh ?
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Oh the tales that are going to be spun will keep the NE, TMZ and such in business for years.
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After all of the recent revelations I would not be surprised if the drugs were not at a toxic level. I am just saying this because of what Deepak said. If MJ was having injections for anything frequently, he might have been doing it intravenously.
He could have even had a line in.
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When would they call a coroner's inquest ? Do they have those things in SoCal ?   

From a medical standpoint I would agree & I have no doubt that due to his ailments combined he was in pain (so many fall from abuse of prescription drug addiction - thats why despite my spine issues I refuse to take any type of opiates unless it is absolutely excuriating & nothing relieves it & even then very rarely) BUT NOW we have this Dr. Klein claiming to be "baby daddy" which seems like any likely motive as any other leech in this swamp.

[Kat_Gram]

I like the word leeches and slugs. Debbie "sold " the kids twice.
I wonder why he didn't have his own kids . 

[Nut44x4]

Report: Jackson Public Viewing Set For Friday 
Attorney Also Reportedly Says Will Has Been Found

POSTED: 11:03 am MST June 30, 2009
UPDATED: 11:42 am MST June 30, 2009
Michael Jackson's body will return to his Neverland Ranch for a public viewing on Friday, CNN has reported.

His body will return on Thursday morning, and a private memorial service is scheduled for Sunday, according to CNN.

Also, CNN reported that Jackson family lawyer Londell McMillan said that a will left behind by Jackson has been found. The will was reportedly written in 2002.

The singer's hometown of Gary, Ind., reportedly has asked the Jackson family to send him there, according to the mayor's spokeswoman, Lalosa Burns.
http://www.kpho.com/entertainment/19905190/detail.html#

[Cappuccino]

Report: Jackson Public Viewing Set For Friday 
Attorney Also Reportedly Says Will Has Been Found

POSTED: 11:03 am MST June 30, 2009
UPDATED: 11:42 am MST June 30, 2009
Michael Jackson's body will return to his Neverland Ranch for a public viewing on Friday, CNN has reported.

His body will return on Thursday morning, and a private memorial service is scheduled for Sunday, according to CNN.

Also, CNN reported that Jackson family lawyer Londell McMillan said that a will left behind by Jackson has been found. The will was reportedly written in 2002.

The singer's hometown of Gary, Ind., reportedly has asked the Jackson family to send him there, according to the mayor's spokeswoman, Lalosa Burns.
http://www.kpho.com/entertainment/19905190/detail.html#

Open?   Seriously?   OK so an escort entourage to return him to Neverland Thursday, the public viewing Friday, the private memorial Sunday and that should conclude the funeral?  Then court Monday, wow.