Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 - 8/30/09

[Nut44x4]

I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?


"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...   

Yes.....we can get a transcript tomorrow.

[GramaMonkey]

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 

I really wish Steph would date his work

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/

[klaasend]

GramaMonkey - yes but if you go to that specific post the date is not there.   It's in the url but not on the page with the article.  No huge problem it would just be nice if the date showed up there as well.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/

[islandmonkey]

Thanks Trimm.   "She claimed she was there for a voluntary interview and yet she exhibited a lot of signs verbally and nonverbally that it wasn't voluntary," he said. (This is what I don't understand, if you voluntarily wanted to do this, why fight it?  )

Hello Monkeys! Just had to check in on my dinner break at work . . .

This is how I am taking the hypnotist's statements - see what you all think (a different perspective, anyway, maybe?):

Just maybe . . . Misty volunteered to do all of this in an attempt to try to divert attention from herself. As mentioned previously, she is such a seasoned liar - a skill she's been honing her entire life - and so arrogant (and stupid), that she genuinely thought she could pull off lying on these tests & getting away with it. Due to her heavy involvement with the drug community and a family/circle of friends full of criminals, she could have learned/been encouraged to take relaxants (oxycontin, etc.), which some criminals think can alter the test results. The professionals would be able to see through this, though, since they called in some of "the best" . . . Thus, the "voluntary" aspect.

With regards to the hypnosis - I believe that the professional trying to put her under is trying very tactfully to simply say that "she was faking it" . . . her behavior was NOT consistent with someone who is truly in a deep hypnotic state. By stating that she was "fighting it", I believe that he meant that she never allowed herself to go under, and was just pretending she was - with her canned scripted answers. IMO, this is what she had planned all along when she set this whole testing thing up - - - and it all blew up in her face. She's been able to lie & manipulate her way out of things her whole life - she thought she could with LE as well . . .

All JMO . . . will be interested to watch NG repeats tonight to see what the experts have to say . . .

I agree with you about the poly, but I'm wondering IF they were really trying to hypnotize her OR truly circumventing LE procedures and thereby getting her to talk without her atty having to be there..............just a theory

[Fanny Mae]

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 

I really wish Steph would date his work

I think STEPH may be a college age female that used to post on MyFox blog, and had a ustream program for a while.

Well there really is a Steph Watt's and he did use to work for Greta and Fox, so if this person is impersonating him they could probably get in trouble.

Well, you know more about it than I do. It was just who I thought of when I saw the name and thought of her. She was studying to get into the media. My Bad. I will go back to lurking.

[islandmonkey]

I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?


"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...   

Yes.....we can get a transcript tomorrow.

Even with excellent directions (which I wonder if Misty is even able to elobarte properly), how on earth do you go directly to a single rose under some brush when there is that type of heavy vegatation all around?

[GramaMonkey]

GramaMonkey - yes but if you go to that specific post the date is not there.   It's in the url but not on the page with the article.  No huge problem it would just be nice if the date showed up there as well.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/

Yes, I had noticed that.  But, this was the best I could find for date.

[klaasend]

San - your post made me think of this emoticon    I told you so, lol 

Oops wrong forum - meant for the NH forum, lol 

[islandmonkey]

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 

I really wish Steph would date his work

I think STEPH may be a college age female that used to post on MyFox blog, and had a ustream program for a while.

Well there really is a Steph Watt's and he did use to work for Greta and Fox, so if this person is impersonating him they could probably get in trouble.

Well, you know more about it than I do. It was just who I thought of when I saw the name and thought of her. She was studying to get into the media. My Bad. I will go back to lurking.

Don't lurk~I had to double check to make sure this was the same Steph Watts from GVS myself. I just remember his voice so clearly from all the reporting on the Drew P case.

[no rose colored glasses]

What reason did she give them for knowing about the rose and why would she send them there if she doesn't know what happened to Haleigh?

 Misty bringing the single rose location to people's attention, then she was incriminating herself in a big way. How did she know about it? There is no way that she accidentally found it. Does she want this over with?

And Ron went along with it, I don't get that either.

So the question is did he know about it as long as Misty did, or did he not, and just followed Misty's directions and took the people right to the rose?

[Bud's Girl]

I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?

"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...   

Yes.....we can get a transcript tomorrow.

Thank you

[my2cents]

So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

[Bud's Girl]

What reason did she give them for knowing about the rose and why would she send them there if she doesn't know what happened to Haleigh?

 Misty bringing the single rose location to people's attention, then she was incriminating herself in a big way. How did she know about it? There is no way that she accidentally found it. Does she want this over with?

And Ron went along with it, I don't get that either.

So the question is did he know about it as long as Misty did, or did he not, and just followed Misty's directions and took the people right to the rose?

Yes, that's the question.  Now, what is the answer please?   

[no rose colored glasses]

So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I'm wondering if this is all a set up, cooked up by Ron and Misty to go after Misty's brother, she called him a crackhead, and it appears she suggested inappropriate behavior on his part with her.

[cookie]

San - your post made me think of this emoticon    I told you so, lol 

K- we need a puke emoticon...would be most useful on the Jaycee thread...TIA

[klaasend]

San - your post made me think of this emoticon    I told you so, lol 

K- we need a puke emoticon...would be most useful on the Jaycee thread...TIA

Yes O/T - I'm affraid that case is going to get alot worse before it gets better.  I worry that we only know of 2 children and wonder if there were more.

[Bud's Girl]

Don't lurk~I had to double check to make sure this was the same Steph Watts from GVS myself. I just remember his voice so clearly from all the reporting on the Drew P case.

Did you verify it was him?

I asked him by email from his main website and he says yes, that's his blog.

[klaasend]

Fanny - please don't lurk.  I wouldn't know who it was if I hadn't followed the Stacy Peterson case.  Steph Watts was in Bolingbrook for quite a while as Greta's producer in that case.

[islandmonkey]

Don't lurk~I had to double check to make sure this was the same Steph Watts from GVS myself. I just remember his voice so clearly from all the reporting on the Drew P case.

Did you verify it was him?

I asked him by email from his main website and he says yes, that's his blog.

No~I just went to the main page that has his photo and recognized him from the GVS show.

Good job verifying it!!!!

[BlueKYGirl]

So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.