Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09 #1

[pink angel]

why do the police want the mother to stay home and not help search? 

In case Lindsey called or a kidnapper called? Just my guess.
Some LE don't want parents to help with initial ground searches.

[Tamikosmom]

When the calendar on the church's website is considered ... it appears that Evergreen Christian Center in Olympia has a ministry outreach every Tuesday in McCleary and ... Wayne Watne ... a McCleary residence ... must have had an afflication ... not necessary a Pastoral position.

According to the following article Lindsey Baum had a connection with the ministry.

Janet

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THE EVERGREEN CHRISTIAN CENTER CONNECTION

She’s no runaway, family says
By Steven Friederich - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT

Lindsey was in Girl Scouts. She went to church at the Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia. She sometimes worked the front counter at Baum’s store in Elma, a “dollar store.”

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


CALENDAR

http://www.ecconline.cc/ecconline/calendar.php


Hundreds gather for Baum vigil
By Callie White - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT

Wayne Watne of Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and two other local ministers said prayers for Lindsey’s return. Watne took speakers from the assembled crowd. Friends of the family stepped up, taking turns expressing their hope and their pain.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4baa38c6082474655699.txt


Wayne Watne

This is awesome timing for such an emphasis on Astronomy! If you really want to seee something amazing about the stars and really get an understanding of how incredibly large some of the stars are, how big the universe is, and the magnitude of the distances between some of the galaxies and earth check out the CD "Indescribable" by Louie Giglio... it will blow your socks off! They are available online... another is "How Great is Our God" also by Louie Giglio. Believer in God or not, the two CD's do the most amazing job I've ever seen to put the size of the cosmos into a perspective that most can grasp the imensity of the stars!

Wayne Watne, McCleary, WA (Sent Monday, January 05, 2009 10:40 PM)

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/01/05/1730900.aspx

[Tracygirl]

Thanks but I am looking for the article that explains why Lindsey, her mother and brother moved from LA to Washington after the divorce. It was something about knowing someone in town who she grew up with but had lost track of then found again, then this person told her about the town... I want to know who the person was she knew all of those years ago and asked her to move to WA. I have looked and looked. I think there maybe some information there

Oh, her name is Michelle. I remember that. I don't remember her last name.

I was hoping it says the last name. Driving me crazy, I looked through  this entire 45+ folder and either I keep looking past it or I ddin't read it here.

[Tracygirl]

...McCann said she has known Melissa Baum for 30 years. They were in Girl Scouts together and grew up in the Lacey area. She encouraged the family to move back to Washington state.

McCleary was a natural fit because McCann lives in nearby Elma.

Baum attended school for a short while in Elma, near the McCann home. But this year, she enrolled as a fifth-grader at McCleary School...

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt

Thank goddness, thank you! I love ya pink you are great!

[pink angel]

When the calendar on the church's website is considered ... it appears that Evergreen Christian Center in Olympia has a ministry outreach every Tuesday in McCleary and ... Wayne Watne ... a McCleary residence ... must have had an afflication ... not necessary a Pastoral position.

According to the following article Lindsey Baum had a connection with the ministry.

Janet

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THE EVERGREEN CHRISTIAN CENTER CONNECTION

She’s no runaway, family says
By Steven Friederich - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT

Lindsey was in Girl Scouts. She went to church at the Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia. She sometimes worked the front counter at Baum’s store in Elma, a “dollar store.”

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


CALENDAR

http://www.ecconline.cc/ecconline/calendar.php


Hundreds gather for Baum vigil
By Callie White - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT

Wayne Watne of Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and two other local ministers said prayers for Lindsey’s return. Watne took speakers from the assembled crowd. Friends of the family stepped up, taking turns expressing their hope and their pain.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4baa38c6082474655699.txt


Wayne Watne

This is awesome timing for such an emphasis on Astronomy! If you really want to seee something amazing about the stars and really get an understanding of how incredibly large some of the stars are, how big the universe is, and the magnitude of the distances between some of the galaxies and earth check out the CD "Indescribable" by Louie Giglio... it will blow your socks off! They are available online... another is "How Great is Our God" also by Louie Giglio. Believer in God or not, the two CD's do the most amazing job I've ever seen to put the size of the cosmos into a perspective that most can grasp the imensity of the stars!

Wayne Watne, McCleary, WA (Sent Monday, January 05, 2009 10:40 PM)

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/01/05/1730900.aspx

That he did Janet. I called the reporter that wrote the article earlier today. After I called the church in Olympia and they said they had never heard of Wayne.

Wayne called the reporter and told her he wasn't a minister, he was a missionary. She planned on publishing a retraction.

[pink angel]

...McCann said she has known Melissa Baum for 30 years. They were in Girl Scouts together and grew up in the Lacey area. She encouraged the family to move back to Washington state.

McCleary was a natural fit because McCann lives in nearby Elma.

Baum attended school for a short while in Elma, near the McCann home. But this year, she enrolled as a fifth-grader at McCleary School...

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt

Thank goddness, thank you! I love ya pink you are great!

Love ya too!

[klaasend]

Muffy - thanks for starting that photo thread!

[Tracygirl]

This is the story. It has a ton of information but also raises more questions for me.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt

Lindsey Baum is afraid of the dark.

She’s also a bit superstitious.

Combine the two and during the so-called Witching Hour between midnight and 1 a.m., the 10-year-old McCleary girl won’t even set foot out the door, her family says.

Her mother Melissa Baum describes an incident a few weeks ago in which Lindsey had left something in the family car late at night and wanted to retrieve it but wouldn’t go out until the Witching Hour was over.

That’s why it makes no sense to Baum that her little girl would have wandered away late at night. Baum and members of her family think Lindsey was abducted when she was walking back from a friend’s house some four blocks from her home, where she lives with her mom and 12-year-old brother, Josh.

“What else is there?” said family friend Melissa McCann. “She didn’t just get abducted by aliens. It’s not just ‘Poof, she’s gone.’ She’s not a runaway. We’ve known that from the beginning.”

Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott said an abduction scenario is entirely possible, but investigators are also not discounting the notion that Lindsey ran away from home or got hurt somewhere and couldn’t get back home. They aren’t ruling out anything. Searchers have been looking for her high and low since she went missing Friday night.

Her family is holding out hope for her return, especially by her 11th birthday, which is next Tuesday.
 

 


Melissa Baum said Lindsey’s birthday wish was for a digital camera so she could upload pictures to her computer.

Lindsey was in Girl Scouts. She went to church at the Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia. She sometimes worked the front counter at Baum’s store in Elma, a “dollar store.”

 She didn’t spend much time watching television but she loved using the computer, including the popular social networking site MySpace and hanging with her friends, according to her family. MySpace.com lists two Lindsey Baums in McCleary with MySpace pages.

One, with a picture of Lindsey’s pet German Shepherd on the page, is marked “private.” It lists her mood as “adored” and the name of her account as “DISTURBED.” But it gives no other public information.

A second MySpace account is more public. Her nickname there is TWILIGHT FREAK. She loved the popular “Twilight” series of books, love stories about teen-age vampires. And Stephen King novels. And S.E Hinton, who wrote “The Outsiders.”

She listed her best friends as her personal heroes. And said she wants to have children “someday.”

She also described herself a little older — 13 years old,  instead of 10. And taller — 5-foot-2 instead of her 4-foot-9 stature.

Cryptically, within two hours of creating this second MySpace account in May, Baum allegedly wrote: “I’ve been getting a lot of nightmares lately and I have this bad feeling that something bad is gonna happen.”
The family doesn’t know why she wrote it. Neither does Undersheriff Scott.

Scott said the comment and some other smatterings of clues initially led police to believe that Lindsey might have faked her disappearance. That thought is out the window as investigators now enter their fifth day of searching.

“Surely, she would have returned by now,” Scott said.

The Baum family moved to McCleary about two years ago without husband and father Scott, who remained in Tennessee. Eventually, the relationship broke apart, family members said. And Scott, who is in the military, stayed in Tennessee.
Police have contacted the father and say he has not had contact with Lindsey in some time.
McCann said she has known Melissa Baum for 30 years. They were in Girl Scouts together and grew up in the Lacey area. She encouraged the family to move back to Washington state.
McCleary was a natural fit because McCann lives in nearby Elma.

Baum attended school for a short while in Elma, near the McCann home. But this year, she enrolled as a fifth-grader at McCleary School. Her mom said she got along very well with her teacher Lynn Bolster.

With a group of girls, sometimes she would walk to school, which is just a few blocks farther than where she disappeared. Most times she would ride the school bus.The divorce was causing her grades to suffer, her mom thinks. And friends of Lindsey said she was missing a fair share of school days because of “stress.”

“Lindsey was having a hard time this school year,” Melissa Baum said. “This was not a good year for her — with the divorce and everything.”
Still, Lindsey enjoyed writing and continued to do so anytime she had a free moment. The police have been combing her writings looking for clues as to her disappearance.

“She sits and writes notes and poems,” her mother said. “She’s won a couple of contests for her writing. This last year she won second place for the fifth-grade writing competition.”

When she was living in Tennessee, her family says she was part of a special summer writing program at the University of Tennessee. She won a scholarship to be part of it.

The experience made her want to be a professional writer.

But she also has other dreams — like being an artist. Her family said she’d love to write and illustrate her own book, in fact.

She also loves animals and flirted with the idea of being a veterinarian. She had cared for her 5-year-old German shepherd Kadence since the dog was a puppy.

Lindsey’s room is now blocked off with police tape. Yet the dog still has found a way to sneak in. The family’s had to get creative in figuring out ways to make sure the room stays secure.

“She’s Lindsey’s dog,” her mom said. “She slept with Lindsey.”

Now the dog is following brother Josh just about everywhere he goes and has been looking all over the neighborhood for Lindsey on her own.

Josh says Kadence won’t even eat her own dog food because Lindsey’s not around. They have to feed her hot dogs.

Eating and sleeping is taking its toll on the family too.

Baum said she would like to be out there looking for her daughter. And, for a while on the night she disappeared, the mom said she did search — before and after she called the police to report her missing. But police have asked her to stay home, she said.

So she and other family members have plenty of time to just think. And watch the news. And stare at Lindey’s photos and belongings.

They’ve received phone calls or been interviewed on every regional broadcast network and on some national ones. There have been plenty of newspapers, too.

The family’s been trying hard to make Josh stay put. At one point, the 12-year-old went around the neighborhood on his bike calling out Lindsey’s name. He feels guilty because shortly before she disappeared, the two had a sibling argument over a bike.
Sometimes she could make a mountain out of a mole hill, the family says, but they don’t think any of that played into a runaway scenario.

“She’s a very emotional child,” her mom said. “We’ve always called her a drama queen.”

One of Lindsey’s best friends, 11-year-old (omited the name of a minor) said the two would hang out together at a local creek or the city park and muse about life.
“I asked her a question when I first met her about where she would go if she were to run away and I said I’d want to run away to the Bahamas. She didn’t want to.” Christina says Lindsey wanted to stay here.
 
 

[pink angel]

One of Lindsey’s best friends, 11-year-old (omited the name of a minor) said the two would hang out together at a local creek or the city park and muse about life.
“I asked her a question when I first met her about where she would go if she were to run away and I said I’d want to run away to the Bahamas. She didn’t want to.” Christina says Lindsey wanted to stay here.


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That is why they searched the Jim Mullen property 6x. I believe Kara mentioned the creek backs up to his property or runs through it or is near it.

So many details my brain is fuzzy.

[Deenie]

Hmmm

I am back tracking as I have read the last posts of Lindsey and her self " person".

Why ( except for just pure love of her friend) did she want to stay with her friend that night - Knowing they would again ask for her to stay the next night.. together.
what prompted them to ask that night yet to be turned down.. and Kara stating after the fact that her daughter and Lindsey had plans on Saturday to spend the night - in her home.
I am only thinking of my own daughter at that age. Girls have this unspoken need and friendship between them ..and when they want to be together it is out of pure comfort of being with one another. Thats when they are true and at peace with themselves because they have full trust within each other - that they can be as they are.

Yet they too can be stinkers and make up fibs and such ..to us Moms.

My Hinkey Meter still sets within the time line that has been misconstrued too many times and the lack of scent found by the dogs.
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Sometimes those who Love deeply can also love/protect others who make bad choices/do bad things .. at the same time can keep secrets for their own Selfishness.
and make up stories that are credible till its investigated over and over ..and it falls apart.
Someone is not telling the full story .. Who that is .. I have no clue.

[Deenie]

My Thoughts:

You don't have to be a Mental Giant to figure out - someone within this Case is not telling the full story ..
 

[mamacrazy30]

I hope the FBI and LE are checking her Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/402470771

What this looks like to me is whoever took her, got her login and password to Myspace from HER.  I think the perp is someone they know in town and I'm hoping she's still alive and simply holding her against her will.

that wasn't the picture on the site 6 days ago

[mamacrazy30]

she's happy bro's goin' to juvi??  why???  is he there??  take a look at bro and bro friends..step-bro?  bio-bro??  why would a 10 year old  4th-5th grade???

she has a myspace and she happy brother is going to 'juve'?????

 

[mamacrazy30]

I hope the FBI and LE are checking her Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/402470771

What this looks like to me is whoever took her, got her login and password to Myspace from HER.  I think the perp is someone they know in town and I'm hoping she's still alive and simply holding her against her will.

that wasn't the picture on the site 6 days ago

NONE of it is the same......please God I Do Not Want To See A LITTLE GIRL DIE  BEFORE ME VIA 'MYSPACE'

[mamacrazy30]

Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 30, 2009, 07:18:40 PM
Quote from: my2cents on June 30, 2009, 07:16:54 PM
Do you have the link to her my spaces? are they public?
the one accessed on the 25 is public the other private....give me a min i'll get them
1st
TWILIGHT FREAK  url www.myspace.com/477760045
Code:

www.myspace.com/477760045


2nd
Disturbed url www.myspace.com/402470771
Code:

ww.myspace.com/402470771

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OMG  thats soooo Anthony.  (credits to miss Mae)



Took out your ip address you copied here.

[mamacrazy30]

Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 30, 2009, 07:18:40 PM
Quote from: my2cents on June 30, 2009, 07:16:54 PM
Do you have the link to her my spaces? are they public?
the one accessed on the 25 is public the other private....give me a min i'll get them
1st
TWILIGHT FREAK  url www.myspace.com/477760045
Code:

www.myspace.com/477760045


2nd
Disturbed url www.myspace.com/402470771
Code:

ww.myspace.com/402470771

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OMG  thats soooo Anthony.  (credits to miss Mae)

someone updated her my space (the second one) but i posted this orig in Haleigh on p[age 32?  i don't know if myspace updates daily or ????  this was not her myspace on the 29th OR 30th



Removed ip

[mamacrazy30]

i could be sooo wrong but i promise you Monkeys when i looked on the second myspace (link from dreamin' deamon..and i do have faith in that site) that the dog was not the avi when i posted it on 6-30...i don't think i'm wrong on this...there WAS
NOT a DOG

[mamacrazy30]

i'll be back i gotta' check somthin' out

[mamacrazy30]

ok so a myspace is updated regardless....the dog was not on the private 'myspace' on 6-30 i hope LE/FBI/Whoever can retrieve the info 'cause in my heart of heats I Know the dog was not there on 6/30 when i posted to SM

[pink angel]

mama that dog was there on the 28th because klaas's screen cap of that page is on the 28th. I don't remember being anything but a dog.

On the twilight page there was a lady vampire. (small)