Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09 #1

[doubledecker]

well sorry, but I don't feel bad about researching someone, even if they are a minister etc.   hopefully, by doing so, we will bump into that one little thing that might help find lindsey. 

but if you guys think I am out of line for doing so, I will stop posting the info on the board.  I just put it out here so others can use it and help to look.  A lot of people looking for things gets a lot more done than just my looking for it.

Name: Wayne S Watne
Birth Date: Oct 1964
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Address: 181 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-0201 (1993)
[4252 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-1201 (1988)] 

[Tamikosmom]

When the calendar on the church's website is considered ... it appears that Evergreen Christian Center in Olympia has a ministry outreach every Tuesday in McCleary and ... Wayne Watne ... a McCleary residence ... must have had an afflication ... not necessary a Pastoral position.

According to the following article Lindsey Baum had a connection with the ministry.

Janet

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THE EVERGREEN CHRISTIAN CENTER CONNECTION

She’s no runaway, family says
By Steven Friederich - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT

Lindsey was in Girl Scouts. She went to church at the Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia. She sometimes worked the front counter at Baum’s store in Elma, a “dollar store.”

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


CALENDAR

http://www.ecconline.cc/ecconline/calendar.php


Hundreds gather for Baum vigil
By Callie White - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT

Wayne Watne of Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and two other local ministers said prayers for Lindsey’s return. Watne took speakers from the assembled crowd. Friends of the family stepped up, taking turns expressing their hope and their pain.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4baa38c6082474655699.txt


Wayne Watne

This is awesome timing for such an emphasis on Astronomy! If you really want to seee something amazing about the stars and really get an understanding of how incredibly large some of the stars are, how big the universe is, and the magnitude of the distances between some of the galaxies and earth check out the CD "Indescribable" by Louie Giglio... it will blow your socks off! They are available online... another is "How Great is Our God" also by Louie Giglio. Believer in God or not, the two CD's do the most amazing job I've ever seen to put the size of the cosmos into a perspective that most can grasp the imensity of the stars!

Wayne Watne, McCleary, WA (Sent Monday, January 05, 2009 10:40 PM)

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/01/05/1730900.aspx

BUMPED

[JessStar]

So here again is this Wayne Watne person again. So he did have contact with the family. He could be innocently being kind to the boy, I would have no idea, I hope he has been interviewed by LE.

yes, i felt bad even googling him to see if there was any info on him but if he did have contact with the boy and family he should be talked to by LE to see if theres anything he knows that could help the investigation...maybe the brother disclosed things to him that were going on with bullying, or things at home, or with lindsey that could be helpful to finding lindsey...

I agree.

Bullying, jealousy, envy. Young kids are capable of heinous crimes.  Again, I have to say I don't think Josh did this--it's too perfect so far.  But for those who are sitting back thinking, "He's only 12," I say young kids are capable of murder, even premeditated:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498984,00.html

and can even murder after a heated argument

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/04/30/father-shot-and-killed-by-his-12-year-old-daughter/

[no rose colored glasses]

well sorry, but I don't feel bad about researching someone, even if they are a minister etc.   hopefully, by doing so, we will bump into that one little thing that might help find lindsey. 

but if you guys think I am out of line for doing so, I will stop posting the info on the board.  I just put it out here so others can use it and help to look.  A lot of people looking for things gets a lot more done than just my looking for it.

Name: Wayne S Watne
Birth Date: Oct 1964
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Address: 181 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-0201 (1993)
[4252 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-1201 (1988)] 

I appreciate all your help, it don't matter to me if he is a minister or not, to me that has nothing to do with anything.

[Tamikosmom]

well sorry, but I don't feel bad about researching someone, even if they are a minister etc.   hopefully, by doing so, we will bump into that one little thing that might help find lindsey. 

but if you guys think I am out of line for doing so, I will stop posting the info on the board.  I just put it out here so others can use it and help to look.  A lot of people looking for things gets a lot more done than just my looking for it.

Name: Wayne S Watne
Birth Date: Oct 1964
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Address: 181 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-0201 (1993)
[4252 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-1201 (1988)] 

The focus is a little girl named Lindsey who is missing.  Wannabe detective do what real detectives should be doing behind the scenes ... investigating all possible connections ... not giving a free pass to any of the possible connections..

Janet

[doubledecker]

in 1997 he was with wife sandy, in port angeles
Name: Wayne Watne
Spouse: Sandy 
Address: 181 Bishop Rd 
City: Port Angeles 
State: Washington 
Zip Code: 98363-8756
Phone Number: xxxxxxx
Residence Years: 1997 

[JessStar]

well sorry, but I don't feel bad about researching someone, even if they are a minister etc.   hopefully, by doing so, we will bump into that one little thing that might help find lindsey. 

but if you guys think I am out of line for doing so, I will stop posting the info on the board.  I just put it out here so others can use it and help to look.  A lot of people looking for things gets a lot more done than just my looking for it.

Name: Wayne S Watne
Birth Date: Oct 1964
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Address: 181 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-0201 (1993)
[4252 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-1201 (1988)] 

There is no reason to feel bad, DD.  Remember, a Sunday School teacher murdered Sandra Cantu, and we all know what our research into the Lawless family of "ministers" has shown.

[no rose colored glasses]

So here again is this Wayne Watne person again. So he did have contact with the family. He could be innocently being kind to the boy, I would have no idea, I hope he has been interviewed by LE.

yes, i felt bad even googling him to see if there was any info on him but if he did have contact with the boy and family he should be talked to by LE to see if theres anything he knows that could help the investigation...maybe the brother disclosed things to him that were going on with bullying, or things at home, or with lindsey that could be helpful to finding lindsey...

I agree.

Bullying, jealousy, envy. Young kids are capable of heinous crimes.  Again, I have to say I don't think Josh did this--it's too perfect so far.  But for those who are sitting back thinking, "He's only 12," I say young kids are capable of murder, even premeditated:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498984,00.html

and can even murder after a heated argument

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/04/30/father-shot-and-killed-by-his-12-year-old-daughter/

Oh age means nothing to me, somebody that young that does a horrible crime, while upsetting, does not surprise me. Thanks for the links.

[doubledecker]

I believe this is him also as listed with him is both a sandy and a stacie
but I am not 100% sure this is him, but if it is, he was with wife stacie in 2001 ad 2002 in corvallis oregon

I'll do more looking and will be able to tell if this is him or not

Name: Wayne Watne
Spouse: Stacie 
Address: 33017 SE Peoria Rd 
City: Corvallis 
State: Oregon 
Zip Code: 97333-2529
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Residence Years: 2001 2002 

[doubledecker]

So here again is this Wayne Watne person again. So he did have contact with the family. He could be innocently being kind to the boy, I would have no idea, I hope he has been interviewed by LE.

yes, i felt bad even googling him to see if there was any info on him but if he did have contact with the boy and family he should be talked to by LE to see if theres anything he knows that could help the investigation...maybe the brother disclosed things to him that were going on with bullying, or things at home, or with lindsey that could be helpful to finding lindsey...

I agree.

Bullying, jealousy, envy. Young kids are capable of heinous crimes.  Again, I have to say I don't think Josh did this--it's too perfect so far.  But for those who are sitting back thinking, "He's only 12," I say young kids are capable of murder, even premeditated:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498984,00.html

and can even murder after a heated argument

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/04/30/father-shot-and-killed-by-his-12-year-old-daughter/

Oh age means nothing to me, somebody that young that does a horrible crime, while upsetting, does not surprise me. Thanks for the links.

and don't forget dennis radar, btk

[sunshine12]

i have found some court stuff on wayne watne

1 Watne, Wayne
Defendant  Clallam County Dist  99-000003  01-05-1999
2 Watne, Wayne
Defendant  Clallam County Dist  Y00-01034  12-13-2000
3 Watne, Wayne S
Petitioner  Grant Superior Court  97-3-00138-2  04-10-1997
4 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  Mount Vernon Muni Ct  MI0025537  09-19-2006
5 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  Sno Co-everett Div  I00020510  12-03-2007
6 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  North District Court  I05795773  07-18-2008
7 Watne, Wayne Scott
Respondent  Skagit Superior  09-3-00034-1  01-16


it wont let me type everything out but the most recent one said this:

 01-16-2009 $FFR  Filing Fee Received 250.00 
1  01-16-2009 CIF  Confidential Information Form 
2  01-16-2009 PTDSS  Petition For Dissolution 
-  01-16-2009 JN
RSP0001 Joinder
Watne, Wayne Scott 
3  01-16-2009 TMRO
JDG0003 Temp Restraining Order - Atuo
Judge Susan K. Cook 
4  04-08-2009 NTMTDK
ACTION  Note For Motion Docket
S Watne - Final 05-04-2009FD 
5  05-04-2009 MTHRG
COM0001 Motion Hearing
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton 
 05-04-2009 CDSOP  Cd Record Of Proceedings 4/10:00 
6  05-04-2009 FNFCL
COM0001 Findings Of Fact&conclusions Of Law
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton 
7  05-04-2009 DCD
COM0001 Decree Of Dissolution
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton


heres the link;

http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa=home.casesummary&crt_itl_nu=S29&casenumber=09-3-00034-1&searchtype=sName&token=51E9FCC04CC3CECF7BEB886B24D7CF2D&dt=6AC1FFCEC2FBDFC29994A6CE83448718

[klaasend]

well sorry, but I don't feel bad about researching someone, even if they are a minister etc.   hopefully, by doing so, we will bump into that one little thing that might help find lindsey. 

but if you guys think I am out of line for doing so, I will stop posting the info on the board.  I just put it out here so others can use it and help to look.  A lot of people looking for things gets a lot more done than just my looking for it.

Name: Wayne S Watne
Birth Date: Oct 1964
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Address: 181 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-0201 (1993)
[4252 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-1201 (1988)] 

A minister has nothing to do with it and I agree, we need to research everyone in this case.  Lindsey is out there and needs to be found.

Being a minister doesn't give him a free pass IMO.  Look at the ministers daughter/grandaughter Melissa Huckaby.  Nope, no free pass.

[Deenie]

ITA ...
Just because you wear a Uniform/suit of Clergy and or otherwise ... Mail Man, Police Man... heck even a " Clown Suit" .... as we all know. " John Wayne Gacy" ... ( chills )
beneath the clothing can lurk a monster.
 

[klaasend]

It's a very small town.  Everyone has said she was likely abducted by someone she trusted/knew.  At this point I think everyone in this very small town, plus where the Dollar Store is are open to scruiteny.

[doubledecker]

i have found some court stuff on wayne watne

1 Watne, Wayne
Defendant  Clallam County Dist  99-000003  01-05-1999
2 Watne, Wayne
Defendant  Clallam County Dist  Y00-01034  12-13-2000
3 Watne, Wayne S
Petitioner  Grant Superior Court  97-3-00138-2  04-10-1997
4 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  Mount Vernon Muni Ct  MI0025537  09-19-2006
5 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  Sno Co-everett Div  I00020510  12-03-2007
6 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  North District Court  I05795773  07-18-2008
7 Watne, Wayne Scott
Respondent  Skagit Superior  09-3-00034-1  01-16


it wont let me type everything out but the most recent one said this:

 01-16-2009 $FFR  Filing Fee Received 250.00 
1  01-16-2009 CIF  Confidential Information Form 
2  01-16-2009 PTDSS  Petition For Dissolution 
-  01-16-2009 JN
RSP0001 Joinder
Watne, Wayne Scott 
3  01-16-2009 TMRO
JDG0003 Temp Restraining Order - Atuo
Judge Susan K. Cook 
4  04-08-2009 NTMTDK
ACTION  Note For Motion Docket
S Watne - Final 05-04-2009FD 
5  05-04-2009 MTHRG
COM0001 Motion Hearing
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton 
 05-04-2009 CDSOP  Cd Record Of Proceedings 4/10:00 
6  05-04-2009 FNFCL
COM0001 Findings Of Fact&conclusions Of Law
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton 
7  05-04-2009 DCD
COM0001 Decree Of Dissolution
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton


heres the link;

http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa=home.casesummary&crt_itl_nu=S29&casenumber=09-3-00034-1&searchtype=sName&token=51E9FCC04CC3CECF7BEB886B24D7CF2D&dt=6AC1FFCEC2FBDFC29994A6CE83448718

hmmm looks like the divorce, but there was a restraining order too.  gee

[klaasend]

I haven't had a chance to follow this case closely and was wondering something.  Did they have tracking or cadaver dogs searching for Lindsey?  Did they start out from Lindsey's friends home and walk the different possible routes? 

[pink angel]

He is not a minister, he is a missionary. I called Callie White at the Daily World who did the article on him and she was publishing a retraction. Whether that was in print or online, I don't know.

He lives in McCleary.

[JessStar]

I haven't had a chance to follow this case closely and was wondering something.  Did they have tracking or cadaver dogs searching for Lindsey?  Did they start out from Lindsey's friends home and walk the different possible routes? 

Yes, Klaas, they had tracking dogs.  But what they found, if anything, is unclear and subject to some debate.  Law enforcement is saying 6 dogs found no trace of her, even though her path is known and she took it often.  Others say some dogs picked up her scent at some point, but it apparently hasn't led to anything significant. 

[Deenie]

I haven't had a chance to follow this case closely and was wondering something.  Did they have tracking or cadaver dogs searching for Lindsey?  Did they start out from Lindsey's friends home and walk the different possible routes? 

So it was stated in the News and reports they did use Bloodhounds to try to track Lindsey's scent .. and they came up with nothing on any of the paths ..she would have taken or possible walked upon.  They were sent out right after she was reported missing.

snipped: The FBI is now part of the team that is investigating her disappearance.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/01/crimesider/entry5127770.shtml
Searchers on horseback have also helped the effort, complementing efforts by the Washington State Patrol to search for Lindsey by air, with a plane that is equipped with a heat-sensing camera to scan the ground. The video is being fed back to the ground where officials can see the results in real-time.
Cadets from the Civil Air Patrol are also joining the growing search party, and police scoured surveillance videos from the town's businesses looking for any clues. The town was criss-crossed three times, but not a trace of
Lindsey has been found. Even bloodhounds failed to pick up her scent.

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aaah can't imagine .. 

[doubledecker]

He is not a minister, he is a missionary. I called Callie White at the Daily World who did the article on him and she was publishing a retraction. Whether that was in print or online, I don't know.

He lives in McCleary.

he has lived in a LOT of places, trying to find out what was going on with him in other places before he got to Mccleary.  He could be moving a lot because he is a missionary and sent all over the place.  or it could be some other reason.