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« Reply #1420 on: July 06, 2009, 04:47:00 PM »

Internet is cutting in and out for me today.  Making it too frustrating to contribute with you guys.  Sorry.  Lets hope it gets resolved.
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« Reply #1421 on: July 06, 2009, 04:47:03 PM »

I'll start working on the 6th street names some more now.  I ran every name on that list through the washington state sex offender list, I did some of them national, but not all.  there were no exact matches.  there were some name matches for last names.  I was starting to see if any of those were relatives who might have been visiting or had moved in and might not have reported. 

I'll make notes over on that thread what I am doing and if everyone else would make a note over on that thread what they are working, we won't be duplicating work and we can get more done in the same amount of time.  I am really not liking how much time is passing in this case and we have yet to find anything that tells us where she is. ugh.

I would really like to know where wayne watne lives, he might live on or off 6th for all we know and not be showing up.

WATNE, WAYNE S
WATNE, WAYNE
(DOB: 10/1964)
 (Age: 44) 

PO BOX 205
MONTESANO, WA 98563-0205
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(11/2008-Current)   

2303 MONTGOMERY PL
MOUNT VERNON, WA 98274-4735
SKAGIT COUNTY
(02/2005-02/2009)

PO BOX 406
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-0406
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(06/2008-11/2008)   

400 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(05/2008-05/2008)   


PO BOX 1794
MOSES LAKE, WA 98837-0224
GRANT COUNTY
(02/2006-06/2006)   

1794 PO BOX 1794
MOSES LAKE, WA 98837
GRANT COUNTY
(02/2006-02/2006)   

15146 SUNSET LN
MOUNT VERNON, WA 98273-8837
SKAGIT COUNTY
(05/2004-01/2006)

414 OXENFORD RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98363-8863
CLALLAM COUNTY
(02/1999-02/1999)   

6421 S FIFE ST
TACOMA, WA 98409-6023
PIERCE COUNTY
(12/1997-12/1997)   

181 BISHOP RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98363-8756
CLALLAM COUNTY
(02/1993-07/1996)   

4869 VIKING RD NE
MOSES LAKE, WA 98837-3743
GRANT COUNTY
(02/1993-02/1993)   

4252 BISHOP RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98362
CLALLAM COUNTY
(12/1988-12/1992)

525 E 10TH ST
PORT ANGELES, WA 98362-7927
CLALLAM COUNTY
(12/1988-12/1988)   

1332 OBRIEN RD # 5
PORT ANGELES, WA 98362-7416
CLALLAM COUNTY
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« Reply #1422 on: July 06, 2009, 04:56:34 PM »

Some of Watne's neighbors on 3rd street:

1.  QUIMBY, FORREST M
401 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(04/2006-Current)   
 
 2.  CLINE, JAMES K
412 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(03/1998-Current)
 
 3.  CLINE, NANCY C
412 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(11/2006)
   
 
 4.  CLARK, ZACKARY J
413 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(08/2001-Current)   

 5.  DODD, GARY K
(DOB: 12/1956)
 (Age: 52)
418 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(12/2000-Current)

 6.  DODD, DIANE
418 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(09/1984-Current)   
 
 7.  TRUDEAU, NELSON J
427 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(10/2006-Current)   

 8.  HALLETT, SANDRA G
427 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
(09/2006-Current)   
 
 9.  TRUDEAU, SANDRA G
427 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
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« Reply #1423 on: July 06, 2009, 05:12:12 PM »

One of the reader comments .  Anyone local or if Kara comes by, can you please explain why Forks?

This girl twitters, does Facebook and prolly has a cellphone, too. What do parents expect? Ten year olds do not need these things. This child most likely is far away from that town with someone she met via one of the above. Hope she comes home soon.

Of course, if she is not found soon they should look up in Forks.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49891642.html


this is something else I am thinking to look into, this post, the poster, etc.  we really don't know what they meant, might be something cryptic for all we know.  I will try to check more on this

This may well be the answer to the reference to Forks.  The poster knows enough about Lindseys case to know she loves the Twilight series.  It seems to be a Twilight reference......

Bella Swan. She's pretty plain looking, as the book describes. And she's a total klutz, too!

Her father is Chief Charlie Swan, who's a police man for the tiny town of Forks.

Her mother is Renee, though her parents are divorced, Renee lives in Florida with her new husband (can't remeber his name) who plays baseball.

Bella can't really relate well to people, so she often seems antisocial and emo, though she isn't. She just can't seem to relate well to people at all. Period.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081003131548AA8aIyg

Seems as though this reveals a couple of different insights as to why Lindsey could relate to the book. I have read where she may have described herself as Emo...but it is obvious to me Lindsey is not.

Anyway, hope this helps.



does anything bad happen to bella?  who is bella's hero?  or who does she look up to?

I've only read the first book but she is kidnapped by the "bad" vampire and Edward saves her.  I haven't read any of the other books.

hmmm myabe we are looking for a "bad vampire"?  seriously, what if some weirdo "vampire" is role playing the book in real life.  when the bad vampire kidnapped bella, where did he take her?
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« Reply #1424 on: July 06, 2009, 05:15:14 PM »

jessstar:

thanks for that look-up on watne.. THAT helps a LOT.   
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« Reply #1425 on: July 06, 2009, 05:24:21 PM »

erick and jodi johanson
have two girls
one 15 and one is 10
they all live in elma
they have a delivery biz
she is self employed
I don't know if he also has another job or not

she is jodi Kay Kirby
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« Reply #1426 on: July 06, 2009, 05:25:28 PM »

Erick and Jodi Johanson/Spa Delivery Service

Erick Johanson xxxxxxx Elma, WA 98541

Jodi Kay Kirby - his wife
KIRBY, JOHANSON
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JOHANSON, JODI KAY
KIRBY, JODI KAY
ELMA, WA
MCCLEARY, WA
OLYMPIA, WA
YELM, WA
JOHANSON, ERICK O
JOHANSON, JODU



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« Reply #1427 on: July 06, 2009, 05:43:39 PM »

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« Reply #1428 on: July 06, 2009, 06:28:59 PM »

Morning everyone.  I have caught up from yesterday and here is my synopsis:

Wayne the Missionary - befriended Josh, mentions astronomy in his myspace, moves around a lot, still need to look into him further

Erick the Landlord - Lives in Elma, lots of court cases that need to be looked at to see if they are tenant landlord related or something more, no idea where he works or what relationship was with Lindsey's family ( friend, foe?)

Mullin's - just bought the land, property has been searched 6 times, no indication of a creek  that he says kids used to play by on his land.

Lady who left monkeys message on myspace - by all accounts loves and protects her children, had a least one issue with Lindsey's mom, used to be in medical field until she was hurt, is upset that family members record was posted, has left open invitation to email her directly to ask questions

Lady who broke up fight behind Shell - we know nothing

Lady who spotted Lindsey walking home  - county worker, on her way to work, we know nothing more

Possible second sighting - we know nothing

Private scent dog brought in - we know nothing of results


Meeting at church for AA/NA/ Sex A - no word on when the SA one is held and if LE is looking into it.


Have I missed anything?



Good Morning Northern Rose  GREAT COMPILATION!

According to Sheriff Scott ... the sightings of Lindsey have been confirmed.

Apparently ... Lindsey is known to both witnesses.  The timing of the sightings makes sense when you consider that the Kampen's claim that Lindsey began her walk home at 9:15 PM.

Janet

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Where is Lindsey Baum? Police, FBI Search for 10-Year-Old
Girl's Mother Frantic After Lindsey Never Made it Home From a Friend's House

June 30, 2009


Scott said witnesses were able to put Lindsey within a couple of blocks of her house just after 9:30 p.m. The last person reported to have seen her, he said, was a neighbor on her way to work.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=7966924&page=2


Focus now on abduction
BY JACOB JONES The Daily World
Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
JACOB JONES | THE DAILY WORLD


Scott said a second person came forward Tuesday with a confirmed sighting of Baum from Friday night in the same area along Maple Street near Fifth Street.

http://**/articles/2009/07/02/local_news/doc4a4cf43c1b1dd881132403.txt


KARA KAMPEN

"You can't imagine the guilt"
By Callie White
The Daily World
Friday, July 3, 2009 11:12 AM PDT


McCLEARY — Kara Kampen said she thought nothing of it when Lindsey Baum walked out of her house at about 9:15 p.m. last Friday.

http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt


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FBI joins search for missing 10-year-old girL
Story Published: Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 AM PDT
Story Updated: Jun 28, 2009 at 7:11 PM PDT


Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home ...

The friend's father, Scott Williams, said he asked Lindsey to go home before it got too dark.

"She was here 10, 15 minutes, and then, you know, we said, 'You should probably get going before it gets dark,' and that was the last we heard of her," he said.

Witnesses say Lindsey seemed normal as she headed out around 9:15.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html

Thank you Tamiko.  The second confirmed sighting - close to 5th makes no sense when compared to the scent dog.  Was that an old scent on 6th?  If so, why did it just end?  Why would she be walking on 6th?  Did she get there via cross country trying to run from someone - why would she just not run straight down maple toward the Shell if this was the case?  Could she have started down 6th - saw or heard something that was not good, then high tailed it back to Maple?  This would account for the scent ending on 6th HOWEVER would not work with the sighting that she was walking normally.

What is down 6th that would be familar to Lindsey - Mullin's, other friends, a hang out site?



Could she have gone to the lake out 6th?
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« Reply #1429 on: July 06, 2009, 06:32:53 PM »

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« Reply #1430 on: July 06, 2009, 06:33:55 PM »

Father of missing girl wants her home before he goes to Iraq

03:14 PM PDT on Monday, July 6, 2009

By DREW MIKKELSEN, KING 5 News

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Lindsey Baum, 10, disappeared from the small town of McCleary.

McCLEARY, Wash. - In his first public appearance since his daughter's disappearance last month, Scott Baum made a plea for her return.

"I'm fixing to deploy to Iraq and tomorrow is her birthday," Baum said Monday, "I would love nothing more than to see my daughter before I have to go."

Ten-year-old Lindsey Baum vanished two Fridays ago while walking home from a friend’s house in McCleary.

Baum’s disappearance prompted non-stop searches in McCleary last week.

The effort was ramped up Monday morning because searchers said wet weather can enhance a person’s scent, especially in the woods.

Search dog teams from throughout the south Puget Sound area were back out searching Monday.

Searchers are focusing in the Straddleline Off Road Vehicle Park, about 3.5 miles from where Baum was last seen. The park consists of hundreds of miles of trails.

Police said they were not able to search the park last week because it was full of campers prior to the Fourth of July.

Scott Baum, who is in the National Guard in Tennessee, would not take questions from reporters.

"Please bring my daughter home," he said.

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_070609WAB-missing-mccleary-girl-SW.14c01624.html?rss
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« Reply #1431 on: July 06, 2009, 06:37:12 PM »

Cool weather reinvigorates search for missing girl

By STEPHANIE KLEIN
MyNorthwest.com

It's been ten days since Lindsey Baum, 10, was reported missing in McCleary.

The search for Baum has tapered off, but Grays Harbor County Undersheriff Rick Scott says the change in weather is good for search and rescue teams. "The canines were affected by the heat."

Scott says their teams will be going deeper into wooded areas they've already searched and also focusing on the off road vehicle park east of McCleary. He adds that they're following up on leads and conducting deeper research, but there are no red flags.

Baum was last seen about 9:15pm June 26 leaving her friend's house several blocks from her own home.

People are urged to report any unusual behavior that might point to an abductor, such as suddenly cutting or dyeing hair, an unexplained absence from work or cuts or bruises on the arms and face.

Lindsey is 4 foot-9, 80 pounds, with brown hair and brown eyes, last seen wearing a light blue hooded pullover shirt and blue jeans.

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« Reply #1432 on: July 06, 2009, 06:39:32 PM »

Looking for the creek in town I found some old studies done for sewage and runoff.  The writer said that drainage was through "nameless creek" which runs through town and is all covered, underground now.  There are apparently manhole type openings along it. 
 Eventually it visits the Sewage Treatment Plant (STP) and on to East Wildcat Creek. 

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« Reply #1433 on: July 06, 2009, 06:39:36 PM »


Searchers are still hopeful on day 10
BY JACOB JONES
The Daily World
Monday, July 6, 2009 12:12 PM PDT

The trail isn’t heating up
for law enforcement
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Hope remains unwavering in the search for missing 10-year-old Lindsey Baum, but resources and ideas have started to dwindle as the effort enters its 10th day.

Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott said several officers have more than 120 hours into the case and tips over the hotline have dropped significantly in recent days.

“The community, I think, has kind of run out of ideas,” he said. “They know we’ve looked and looked and looked and haven’t found anything.”

Baum disappeared late June 26 off a McCleary street as she was walking a few blocks from her friend’s house to her home. Two people confirmed spotting her just blocks from her home, but she never made it there.

Scott said searchers have found no evidence indicating where Baum might have gone as they pursue any possible scenarios, from her being lost in the woods to kidnapping.

The search remains the top priority of local law enforcement. But Scott said agencies have started discussing how long they can “sustain this level” of manpower and resources as other crimes and responsibilities add up.

Scott said volunteers and officers will continue re-canvasing much of the small town and outlying areas today. They will also move into the nearby off-road vehicle park as their search expands.

“That’s a big area,” he said.



Authorities wanted to wait until the holiday weekend cleared most of the people out of the park, Scott said, so searchers would have better access.

Search dogs have struggled to find any scent of the young girl despite several days of trying. Scott said new moisture in the ground from weekend weather may help.

Scott said investigators are continuing to follow leads, but no new developments were available. Volunteers continue to pass out fliers and show whatever support they can from posting signs to raising money for Baum’s family.

Scott said he and many others hope to find some new hope by tomorrow. Despite the mounting dead ends and distractions, they would like to bring her home for her 11th birthday.

“We’re all very conscious of that,” he said.

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« Reply #1434 on: July 06, 2009, 06:49:36 PM »

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DD was this from a myspace page?

no, it is from a meetup group for vampires/occult etc. 
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« Reply #1435 on: July 06, 2009, 06:53:54 PM »

I have been looking for vampires in the mccleary / elma area
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« Reply #1436 on: July 06, 2009, 06:56:50 PM »

Looking for the creek in town I found some old studies done for sewage and runoff.  The writer said that drainage was through "nameless creek" which runs through town and is all covered, underground now.  There are apparently manhole type openings along it. 
 Eventually it visits the Sewage Treatment Plant (STP) and on to East Wildcat Creek. 



gee I wonder how big the manholes are and how often the are.  could someone fall into one of them if it is open?
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« Reply #1437 on: July 06, 2009, 07:01:01 PM »

this came to me on the drive home from work
the reason i had such a problem with the 'disturbed' myspace is that when i saw it on the dd site her mood was 'adored' with little red hearts...then it went to the cool i'm on Lindsey's myspace mood 'wet'....do we know which 'friend' had changed it?? the 'wet' is bothering me...was it after they had gone swimming? is it sexual in nature (like one of the 'mean' kids KaraK mentioned?  Is there a lake/pond/large body of water in the area????
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« Reply #1438 on: July 06, 2009, 07:05:28 PM »

this came to me on the drive home from work
the reason i had such a problem with the 'disturbed' myspace is that when i saw it on the dd site her mood was 'adored' with little red hearts...then it went to the cool i'm on Lindsey's myspace mood 'wet'....do we know which 'friend' had changed it?? the 'wet' is bothering me...was it after they had gone swimming? is it sexual in nature (like one of the 'mean' kids KaraK mentioned?  Is there a lake/pond/large body of water in the area????
I don't know I thought Kara said her daughter changed it  I will admit the mood wet, bothered me from the get go.
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« Reply #1439 on: July 06, 2009, 07:05:38 PM »

Morning everyone.  I have caught up from yesterday and here is my synopsis:

Wayne the Missionary - befriended Josh, mentions astronomy in his myspace, moves around a lot, still need to look into him further

Erick the Landlord - Lives in Elma, lots of court cases that need to be looked at to see if they are tenant landlord related or something more, no idea where he works or what relationship was with Lindsey's family ( friend, foe?)

Mullin's - just bought the land, property has been searched 6 times, no indication of a creek  that he says kids used to play by on his land.

Lady who left monkeys message on myspace - by all accounts loves and protects her children, had a least one issue with Lindsey's mom, used to be in medical field until she was hurt, is upset that family members record was posted, has left open invitation to email her directly to ask questions

Lady who broke up fight behind Shell - we know nothing

Lady who spotted Lindsey walking home  - county worker, on her way to work, we know nothing more

Possible second sighting - we know nothing

Private scent dog brought in - we know nothing of results


Meeting at church for AA/NA/ Sex A - no word on when the SA one is held and if LE is looking into it.


Have I missed anything?



Good Morning Northern Rose  GREAT COMPILATION!

According to Sheriff Scott ... the sightings of Lindsey have been confirmed.

Apparently ... Lindsey is known to both witnesses.  The timing of the sightings makes sense when you consider that the Kampen's claim that Lindsey began her walk home at 9:15 PM.

Janet

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WITNESSES

Where is Lindsey Baum? Police, FBI Search for 10-Year-Old
Girl's Mother Frantic After Lindsey Never Made it Home From a Friend's House

June 30, 2009


Scott said witnesses were able to put Lindsey within a couple of blocks of her house just after 9:30 p.m. The last person reported to have seen her, he said, was a neighbor on her way to work.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=7966924&page=2


Focus now on abduction
BY JACOB JONES The Daily World
Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
JACOB JONES | THE DAILY WORLD


Scott said a second person came forward Tuesday with a confirmed sighting of Baum from Friday night in the same area along Maple Street near Fifth Street.

http://**/articles/2009/07/02/local_news/doc4a4cf43c1b1dd881132403.txt


KARA KAMPEN

"You can't imagine the guilt"
By Callie White
The Daily World
Friday, July 3, 2009 11:12 AM PDT


McCLEARY — Kara Kampen said she thought nothing of it when Lindsey Baum walked out of her house at about 9:15 p.m. last Friday.

http://**/articles/2009/07/03/local_news/doc4a4e415cdb51d302573546.txt


SCOTT WILLIAMS

FBI joins search for missing 10-year-old girL
Story Published: Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 AM PDT
Story Updated: Jun 28, 2009 at 7:11 PM PDT


Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home ...

The friend's father, Scott Williams, said he asked Lindsey to go home before it got too dark.

"She was here 10, 15 minutes, and then, you know, we said, 'You should probably get going before it gets dark,' and that was the last we heard of her," he said.

Witnesses say Lindsey seemed normal as she headed out around 9:15.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html

Thank you Tamiko.  The second confirmed sighting - close to 5th makes no sense when compared to the scent dog.  Was that an old scent on 6th?  If so, why did it just end?  Why would she be walking on 6th?  Did she get there via cross country trying to run from someone - why would she just not run straight down maple toward the Shell if this was the case?  Could she have started down 6th - saw or heard something that was not good, then high tailed it back to Maple?  This would account for the scent ending on 6th HOWEVER would not work with the sighting that she was walking normally.

What is down 6th that would be familar to Lindsey - Mullin's, other friends, a hang out site?



Could she have gone to the lake out 6th?

why are we all going to the water????  i just got home and on the drive thought water...look at post above and see water...
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